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20. December 2009 @ 03:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, please don?t flame me but I have some questions. First of all let me explain the situation. I have 3 modded xboxes. One of them has a liteon with either 1.5 or 1.51 I am not sure which. I have one with a benq with 1.6.1 and one with a Samsunq with 1.6.1 First of all all the backups are patched with 1.5, at least that is what I am told. Now dont flame me if I am out of line for asking because I have been reading for awhile now trying to get educated on this.

Ok first let?s start on Assassins Creed 2. In the Liteon with 1.5 it will not boot... that is a given... with the Benq it goes through the intro movies and then it says dirty disk please clean. Then the Samsung it will play fine....keep in mind these were supposedly patched 1.5.

Next, Left for Dead 2. In both of the 1.6.1 it says Play DVD but in the Liteon it plays fine.

Tekken6 it is the same as Left For Dead 2.

I guess I am looking for direction in what I should be looking for as a problem... disks or drives... they seem to act differently where ever I put them.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you
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20. December 2009 @ 04:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Are you using the same brand of media for all the backups?

Frankly, as an optical drives gets old, it simply gets fussy. It will do all kinds of weird things. It may become cranky with specific media or areas of the disc. It may stop reading types of discs as well.

For best results, I've found that I must use a single brand of blank media. Once I figure out the brand my drive prefers, I stick with it. I also burn slow, at 2X.

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20. December 2009 @ 04:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well like I said I am very new to this and trying to do as much reading as I can, and as I can see I think I am late on starting to read..haha, but at least I can say I am learning new things all the time. The strange part I have a hard time wrapping my mind around is the part of how a older firmware will read better than a newer one, but then again the newer driver do better and keeping in mind they are the same disks..... But thank you for the direction of possibillity of it being the media
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20. December 2009 @ 05:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Deepdivet:
The strange part I have a hard time wrapping my mind around is the part of how a older firmware will read better than a newer one, but then again the newer driver do better and keeping in mind they are the same disks
What do you mean the older firmware reads better?

If you mean that it boots more disks, that's because these firmwares were designed for Xbox Live, and the newer firmwares has security features designed to ensure they do not boot disks that would be unsafe for them on Live, among other things.
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20. December 2009 @ 05:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What I mean by older firmware (now keep in mind I am new) that the one that I have that has the older firmware boots more disks than the one that has the newer firmware.... the ones that have the newer firmware just says Play DVD.... Now I was under the assumption (I know when you assume that it make a ASS out of U and ME) that anything that would play on 1.5 would play on 1.6.1... am I wrong?
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20. December 2009 @ 05:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Deepdivet:
What I mean by older firmware (now keep in mind I am new) that the one that I have that has the older firmware boots more disks than the one that has the newer firmware.... the ones that have the newer firmware just says Play DVD.... Now I was under the assumption (I know when you assume that it make a ASS out of U and ME) that anything that would play on 1.5 would play on 1.6.1... am I wrong?
No, you're correct, but the reason for that are security features of the newer firmware. I'm not saying you're wrong, just trying to explain the "why" of it all.
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20. December 2009 @ 05:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Out of all three of these consoles acting so differently do you have a good plan of attack on the situation?
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20. December 2009 @ 06:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Deepdivet:
Out of all three of these consoles acting so differently do you have a good plan of attack on the situation?
What type of disks are you using?

If they aren't verbatim's burned at 2.4x or lower speed, that's the first thing I'd rectify. Otherwise your Benq may be dying.

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20. December 2009 @ 06:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I wish I had a better anwser of what media they were burned on.... I aqired them from another source. I guess I dont understand how they will read on one drive but not another.... was there that big of a differnce of how one drive will read media over anoter
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20. December 2009 @ 06:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Deepdivet:
Well I wish I had a better anwser of what media they were burned on.... I aqired them from another source. I guess I dont understand how they will read on one drive but not another.... was there that big of a differnce of how one drive will read media over anoter
Every drive can react differently when it comes to burned media, also, the disks should say on them what brand they are, so if they don't say anything, that's likely the issue.

You're forcing a drive to read media it wasn't designed for, so there's bound to be issues.
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20. December 2009 @ 06:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well the only reason I can not read the media is that there was a high quality label placed on it.
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20. December 2009 @ 06:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Deepdivet:
Well the only reason I can not read the media is that there was a high quality label placed on it.
Whoever you got that from should've invested that money in better disks instead of high-quality labels then.
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20. December 2009 @ 06:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank you for the input... I will look into that
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20. December 2009 @ 06:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Deepdivet:
Thank you for the input... I will look into that
It's the disk that boots on the Benq that tells me either your drive is dying, or the media is shoddy. No way to really know for sure which part is causing you problems though, without knowing the details of how it was burnt.
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20. December 2009 @ 06:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I guess I dont understand you you are saying "the disk that boots on the Benq". I would love to know more about this and if there is anything that I can tell you please let me know....
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20. December 2009 @ 07:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I guess what I am asking is should I get reburns of the ones that will play on 1.5 but will not play on 1.6.1.... and the ones that are wave 4 that will play on 1.6.1 assume at are good burns?
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