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Newbie questions, (So new, even idiot proof makes no sense)
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gijoe985
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23. December 2009 @ 19:20 |
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Hello all,
This is my first post and I know it will be a bit boring to most, but I must admit, everything I am looking at reads like Greek to me. There really needs to be a huge glossary I could read.
My goal, I took apart my Xbox 360 to replace a the DVD drive. Doing that got me inspired to do some more "playing around." I got inspired to try to burn an Xbox game. Preferably download and burn, just for the challenge. (I already own these games, it is more for the learning experience than anything else..)
I watched some youtube videos, started reading website, and from what I gathered, I know many of the steps to do download and burn a game, but I am hoping to not just know the steps, but understand a little bit as well. Some of my questions are as follows-
I used Utorrent to download a game I already have (NCAA football 2010). [Also, I hope me saying this isn't a problem, since I already won the games... If so, just let me know and I'll edit the post as needed.] Anyway, I looked at the folder once it was done and I ended up with a bunch of files names "xxx-nfx.ro6" and proceeding upward to .r66. There are also a ton of .rar files, all the same size, which is about 95mb. If I open the any of the rar files it shows me an iso file and a dvd file. The iso file is 7.8gig and the dvd file is 35k. Does all that sound right? What is up with all of the other files?
When is a .dvd file needed? From what I read, a rip comes with both, but sometimes I see people saying they needed the .dvd and sometimes not.
I've been searching around, but can anyone link me to the super beginners page? What I really need is Julie Andrews putting it to song... Either way, simple help like, what is a .bin file, what does patching do, and what should my downloaded file look like? I was surprised about my download, I was expecting to get one .rar file. Instead I got a folder full of files.
Again, I know these questions are really basic, but every page I find is for people on a level 2 vocabulary, and I'm still at level 0... Well, I'm probably not that bad, but I wish there was a tutorial that started a little lower... "So you want to burn an xbox DVD, first let's talk about the vocabulary and the types of processes and programs we'll be using..."
Thanks for the help guys...
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23. December 2009 @ 20:05 |
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.dvd files are used to tell your burner how to burn the game to a dual layer disc. You need it every time to be able to burn a game.
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23. December 2009 @ 20:44 |
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The RAR format is basically so that you can take a large file (let's say 5 gigs), which is too large to upload, email, host, etc, and split it up into smaller files so you can do what you want with them (email, upload, etc). If you split that 5 gig file into, say, 20 files, each file would be 250 megabytes (small enough to upload, IM, etc). So that's why when you look into any one of those RARs, they all say the same thing. One RAR will just show the total contents of ALL the RARs (i.e. what it was before it was RAR'ed). So 99% of the time, your game downloads are gonna be WinRAR'ed.
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Link2205
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23. December 2009 @ 20:48 |
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When you downloaded the game with utorrent, all the files which you saw are what make up the rar archive which the original rip has been compressed and split into. So where you were expecting 1 rar file you instead got 60 smaller rar files which when you open one, it shows you what the complete data is across all the files of the archive. ^^ So effectively those 60 files make up the 1 rar you was expecting to see and when you open up one and extract the file it shows, winrar or whatever you use will then piece the file back together when extracting and then drop it into the destination you dragged it to! ^^
Simples! ^^
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liquidwtr
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23. December 2009 @ 20:52 |
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7.8 gigs is ~ the correct size for a game, however you'll want to run it through abgx to make sure it's ok
also, in order to even play the game on the 360 you'll need to flash an ixtreme fw onto the dvd drive(which i'll assume u know since u had to replace the cd drive)
anywho, just ask questions the people here are very helpful
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gijoe985
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23. December 2009 @ 23:39 |
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Originally posted by liquidwtr:
7.8 gigs is ~ the correct size for a game, however you'll want to run it through abgx to make sure it's ok
also, in order to even play the game on the 360 you'll need to flash an ixtreme fw onto the dvd drive(which i'll assume u know since u had to replace the cd drive)
anywho, just ask questions the people here are very helpful
abgx? I'll look that up. I did see various programs in various tutorials to verify a game. I am mainly using the two sticky threads on game burning.
As for flashing, I am just learning about that. One problem I have is that I do not have a PC with a SATA cable. I've got the Samsung Tosh ts-h943 in my 360. I've been researching adapters and whatnot, so far no luck. My newest machine is a laptop and I don't know if that will be much help.
I did get all those files put together and I am extracting them now into a new folder.
I'm working in baby steps here.
Any thoughts on my SATA-less status?
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metalguy
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24. December 2009 @ 00:04 |
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Originally posted by gijoe985:
Originally posted by liquidwtr:
7.8 gigs is ~ the correct size for a game, however you'll want to run it through abgx to make sure it's ok
also, in order to even play the game on the 360 you'll need to flash an ixtreme fw onto the dvd drive(which i'll assume u know since u had to replace the cd drive)
anywho, just ask questions the people here are very helpful
abgx? I'll look that up. I did see various programs in various tutorials to verify a game. I am mainly using the two sticky threads on game burning.
As for flashing, I am just learning about that. One problem I have is that I do not have a PC with a SATA cable. I've got the Samsung Tosh ts-h943 in my 360. I've been researching adapters and whatnot, so far no luck. My newest machine is a laptop and I don't know if that will be much help.
I did get all those files put together and I am extracting them now into a new folder.
I'm working in baby steps here.
Any thoughts on my SATA-less status?
For the sata issue, if you have an older pc that doesn't have onboard sata you can just buy a pci card that has sata on it. This Is actually your best choice anyway since not all motherboards with sata will recognize a 360 drive anyway. Also, sata cards are really cheap on ebay you just need to make sure you buy the correct chipset (there are many guides on this forum to guide you to the right one).
As for just flashing with a laptop I don't know if anyone has done it, try a search here on the forums because I know many people have asked about it in the past.
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24. December 2009 @ 02:38 |
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gijoe985, for some reason you seem to be getting a lot of useful info from the AfterDawners. Probably the way you presented your original post. for that reason, I'm gonna tell you what you need: (plus I'm bored)
1: A Sata card with the VIA 6421 chipset on it.
For desktop
For laptop
2: Download Jungle Flasher v1.67 to flash your drive.
3: Download the iXtreme 1.6 or 1.61 for the type of drive your 360 has. If it is a Shit-achi (I mean Hitachi), download iXtreme 1.51. Sorry, can't posk links for that, but it can be found rater easily.
4: Install the Port I/O drivers (they come with Jungle Flasher).
5: If your driive is a Lite-On version 74850, get a connectivity kit (KeyGrabber Pro, Maximus 360 Xtractor Pro or Connectivity Kit V3 PROto make connecting the drive to the PC easier. Those have probes/spears, to extract the DVD Key. If it's anything other than the Lite-On version 74850, you can get a cheaper connectivity kit, without the probe.
With these in hand, Jungle Flasher's tutorial will guide you through the flash very easily.
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gijoe985
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24. December 2009 @ 09:54 |
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Originally posted by eebeejay:
5: If your driive is a Lite-On version 74850, get a connectivity kit (KeyGrabber Pro, Maximus 360 Xtractor Pro or Connectivity Kit V3 PROto make connecting the drive to the PC easier. Those have probes/spears, to extract the DVD Key. If it's anything other than the Lite-On version 74850, you can get a cheaper connectivity kit, without the probe.
With these in hand, Jungle Flasher's tutorial will guide you through the flash very easily.
This last part was the confusing part... By drive, did you mean DVD drive? Or hardrive? I am assuming DVD... From looking at your link, it shows some hardware hooking the xbox dvd to the PC. Anyway, if any of this info helps-
My Xbox is a Toshiba Samsung. My PC that I am using (an older one that I am dedicating to this process) is a Dell Dimension 4500. This very second only running .75gig, but will be running 1 gig very soon. The dvd burner is a dual layer burner. Don't remember the model off the top of my head.
OH, and thanks for the links to that glossary page. That was very helpful. There are so many terms that I hear a lot, and could use in a sentence, but the purpose of this journey was for me to actually learn about it. So having all of those defs is a big help.
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gijoe985
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27. December 2009 @ 15:48 |
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A site told me that I have a-
Intel 845E with DDR memory support
in my Dell 4500. How do I know what that is compatible with?
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gijoe985
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27. December 2009 @ 16:30 |
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I could not edit my last post, but I did look on ebay and find a "A Sata card with the VIA 6421 chipset on it. " I just wish I know for certain that it'd work with my dell 4500. I am assuming it will, though I'm waiting for a reply before I bid... Here's part of the description-
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This item is a brand new 4 Port SATA PCI Card with IDE. This SATA PCI card is compliant with Serial-ATA 1.0, 1.1 & 2.0 spec to upgrade your PC for Dual Serial ATA RAID Channels and one Parallel ATA (IDE).
Features
* Chipset: VIA VT6421A.
* Interface: 3 xSerial ATA ports (2 internal, 1 external) &1 Ultra ATA port.
* SATA Interface:
o Provides 3 x SATA ports -2 x internal, 1 x external.
o Provides 3 independent channels to connect up to 3 Serial ATA hard disk device
o Supports SATA 1.0, 1.1 & 2.0
o 1.5Gb/s data rate.
* Parallel ATA Interface:
o Provides 1 x IDE port - internal.
o Supports Ultra DMA Mode Transfers up to Mode 6 Timing (133 Mbytes/sec).
o Supports 48-bit LBA (Large Disk), hard drives larger than 137GB.
o Supports PIO Modes up to Mode 4 Timings, and Multiword DMA Mode 0,1,2 with Independent Timing of up to 2 drives.
o Supports Tri-state IDE Signals.
* Operating Systems Supported:
o Windows 98SE.
o Windows ME.
o Windows 2000.
o Windows XP.
o Windows Vista.
Package Contents
* 100% Brand New
* 1 x PCI SATA card
* 1 x Driver CD
* 1 x SATA cable
Sound good? It even comes with a cable.
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mX10
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27. December 2009 @ 16:30 |
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Originally posted by gijoe985:
A site told me that I have a-
Intel 845E with DDR memory support
in my Dell 4500. How do I know what that is compatible with?
Your PC will be fine. To flash your drive:
You just need to get the SATA PCI card (exact VIA model no. posted above)
Seeing as you have a samsung DVD drive, it will be a very smooth and easy process to flash your drive with the iXtreme 1.61 firmware once it is connected to your pc. Do this using JungleFlasher, below is an in-depth tutorial.
SEE HERE
Also, its easier than it looks... YouTube is your friend :)
EDIT: in regards to your second post, any SATA VIA6421 Chipset PCI card will do.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 27. December 2009 @ 16:32
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