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UK 'three strikes law' will cost taxpayers £500 million

article published on 29 December, 2009

Ministers in the UK have admitted this week that the Digital Economy Bill proposed to curb piracy and suspend multiple time offenders from the Internet will cost taxpayers £500 million, or about £25-a-year for every broadband subscriber. The DEB would force ISPs to send warning letters to anyone downloading unauthorized movies, music and games and would kick multiple time offenders off ... [ read the full article ]

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etherz
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29. December 2009 @ 23:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   


and negligibly small when set against their vast annual revenues

pot, kettle, black
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30. December 2009 @ 00:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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..."It is in everyone?s interest that ISPs? statutory obligations can be discharged as cost efficiently as possible ? particularly those law-abiding broadband customers who currently carry the burden of infringers

What a floppin' popsicle is that supposed to mean?
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30. December 2009 @ 10:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
they said the film and movie indstry would bring in 1.7 billon more money in the next 10 years, but they said it would cost 500 millon a year to do.wouldnt that mean that it would cost 5 billon in ten years for the goverment to keep the program going? doesnot sound like a good deal for the goverment or the people.please explain to me how this is good.
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30. December 2009 @ 10:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Business party at work.

Don't expect the other lot to be any different.

Of course it's a nonsense, I actually buy a lot of the stuff I try 1st, mainly because I want the full retail package (if I like the item concerned).

If I can't try I'm not buying.

I already pay, I pay a BBC TV licence and a (full inc HD) Sky satellite sub.
I support the music and movie industry handsomely.
All downloading does is allow me the convenience of timing what I watch and to sidestep the viruses/spyware of the 'official' BBC, Sky et al downloads.

F*ck 'em, if they do force this through then so be it, it'll end up hurting them more than it'll hurt me.
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30. December 2009 @ 12:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow...using taxpayers money to make the music industry money, whoever is in charge their boot their asses to the street how is this tolerated.

They already got taxes on blank cds where I live, money goes to music industry obviously not everyone uses for piracy dont know how this shit passed...they get this then they will want more and more and more these greedy pigs will never stop.
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31. December 2009 @ 00:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just more evidence that governments work for big corporate money, and not their people. As if anyone with any intelligence at all needed more evidence.

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31. December 2009 @ 01:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by etherz:


and negligibly small when set against their vast annual revenues

pot, kettle, black
that sums the whole thing up , well pointed out.
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31. December 2009 @ 05:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Unelected Mandelson goes off and has a nice holiday and a fat slap up meal with Geffin .. then comes back and resurrects something which parliament had thrown out in the face of massive opposition.

Anybody smell the lovely stench of corruption again from this 3 times resigned in disgrace politician? We will not be dictated to and punished by accusation.. There is a little thing called "due process" which gives EVERY citizen accused of a crime the right to defend themselves in a court of law... how long will the taxpayers stand for millions of people being dragged through the courts for a petty misdeamor which cannot be proved anyway. Just saying xxxx IP downloaded something or other.. sorry.. in thses days of proxies and ip spoofing it's no more than hearsay and circumstantial. I very much doubt a judge will issue a court warrant to break into somebodys house for a civil misdemeanor .. so called "copyright infringement" isn't actually a criminal offense in the UK... Even selling burned dvd's on the street corner will at most get you a telling off from the police who will take and destroy the goods.

Ahh well.. with the rise of Nick Griffin and his nazi brownshirts here 1s a classic example of putting foreign greed over the interests of the people.. People forget what caused the rise of the nazi party in the 30's don't they? I dabbled in politics a long while back, and there is one way to get yourself elected.. by playing to the lowest common denominator and saying what the undeucated masses want to hear. I could win a seat in government quite easily by running on an anti immigration and keep our money working in our interest platform.

We took this stupid 3 strikes law down last year by protesting in writing to our so called representatives.. I guess it's more letters time.
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31. December 2009 @ 07:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i say let the law pass, download more than ever, ignore the letters, let them disconnect you internet, then lets see how long millions of broadband users actually stay disconnected. the entertainment industry wont think it was such a good idea when no one is using itunes, netflix etc because no one has an internet connection. isp's would start fighting for their customers much more because they wouldnt be making any profit, the government would lose even more money through lost taxes on broadband subscriptions.
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7. January 2010 @ 09:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by tleewade:
they said the film and movie indstry would bring in 1.7 billon more money in the next 10 years, but they said it would cost 500 millon a year to do.wouldnt that mean that it would cost 5 billon in ten years for the goverment to keep the program going? doesnot sound like a good deal for the goverment or the people.please explain to me how this is good.
You took my post right out of my fingers...
After 10 years the people would have only paid be 5 BILLION. I guess that is worth it to give the industry 1.7 Billion and the rest of 2 Billion for the government, right? It's not like people would be unhappy to pay that much to a bunch of greedy businessmen and not know where the other 3 BILLION went, would they?

Do what you can while its still questionably Legal, before it becomes UNQuestionably ILLegal.
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7. January 2010 @ 10:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do you smell this, are you smelling it? It smells like BULLS*** to me !!
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7. January 2010 @ 10:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There is an election coming.. now we will see.

On the parliament channel the last few nights there has been a debate (so exciting I fell asleep.. where can I download it) which is televising the "Unelected Ministers Committee" who are obviously looking at the legality of just such actions from unelected members of the house of lords.

There will be a rise of democracy again in the UK one day.. but it will take a lot of moving shaking and a load of bad nazis getting elected to show people what they have to demand and expect from our so called "leaders"

3 Billion.. hahaha.. a drop in the ocean.. we gave the banks 70 Billion twice this last year and they have handed it out to their shareholders and their managers in big bonuses yet again while declaring yet more huge profits.. nationalise the lot I say.. we own 50-70% of the banks already.. and kick asshats like Mandleson out of the door.. an UNELECTED person has NO RIGHT to come proposing anything.. he represents NOBODY BUT HIMSELF AND HID BIG BUSINESS CRONIES!!!

Now then.. all UK people think carefully when you go to vote in March won't you? Do we want big business funded tory.. or big business bribe taking labour.. or pro european sell our rights down the river to Brussels liberals.. or brownshirt nazis? .. great choice. I choose "none of the above" .. oh hang about.. I don't have that option.

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7. January 2010 @ 11:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I bet this doesnt count for some government offical who kid downloads music or movie. Do you think they will cut off his internet?
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7. January 2010 @ 12:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh, yeah, they will make a show of it, but you know the official will also have an un-monitored 'work' connection, which will have a lot of non-work traffic on it either way.
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7. January 2010 @ 12:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If i carnt look before i buy i wont buy, avatar wow what a film ill be getting it blu ray but if i didnt look first no, ill go back to waiting for the dvd`s version to hit the 5 pound mark, know ones gona win this fight and as for the tax payer footing the bill thats a classic wow the rich B#$#@$ want it all ways up thing is there getting it!
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