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20. January 2010 @ 06:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just flashed my nephews lite on,with lt went great,let see what the results are in the new few days


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20. January 2010 @ 07:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lidoboi07:
i been looking all over the place to find how to rip with ss v2, does kreon drive do that?

i use a benq drive flashed with firmware for ripping games,also use agbx wisely and wait for the game to hit the database


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20. January 2010 @ 07:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Whats the score with 'obtained' games. How can I tell if they have been ripped originally with a 0800 reader?
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20. January 2010 @ 07:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by WJ99:
Whats the score with 'obtained' games. How can I tell if they have been ripped originally with a 0800 reader?
When you the game check through ABGX, it will state "SS Version: 2 (trusted)" under the "checking SS" field.
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20. January 2010 @ 07:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by MrGreaser:
Originally posted by WJ99:
Whats the score with 'obtained' games. How can I tell if they have been ripped originally with a 0800 reader?
When you the game check through ABGX, it will state "SS Version: 2 (trusted)" under the "checking SS" field.

Thanks. I will check my ISOs now. Glad I kept them on a HDD
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20. January 2010 @ 08:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by WJ99:
Originally posted by MrGreaser:
Originally posted by WJ99:
Whats the score with 'obtained' games. How can I tell if they have been ripped originally with a 0800 reader?
When you the game check through ABGX, it will state "SS Version: 2 (trusted)" under the "checking SS" field.

Thanks. I will check my ISOs now. Glad I kept them on a HDD
No Problem, glad I could help.

Question for the knowledgeable ones...I will guess that this version of ixtreme Lite Touch isn't embedded with 0800 to read out SSv2...am I correct? Do we still use 1.6 & 1.61 to backup...or can Lite Touch also backup games?
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20. January 2010 @ 09:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by MrGreaser:
I will guess that this version of ixtreme Lite Touch isn't embedded with 0800 to read out SSv2...am I correct? Do we still use 1.6 & 1.61 to backup...or can Lite Touch also backup games?
Correct. 0800 would be unnecessary code for iX LT. Use a dedicated ripping drive with iX 1.6 0800 to rip your games.

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20. January 2010 @ 09:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm glad I didn't flash to 1.61 yet!

Thanks Team Jungle and c4eva!
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20. January 2010 @ 10:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by leerage:
Originally posted by MrGreaser:
I will guess that this version of ixtreme Lite Touch isn't embedded with 0800 to read out SSv2...am I correct? Do we still use 1.6 & 1.61 to backup...or can Lite Touch also backup games?
Correct. 0800 would be unnecessary code for iX LT. Use a dedicated ripping drive with iX 1.6 0800 to rip your games.
Thanks leerage..I think this brings me back into LT speed.
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20. January 2010 @ 10:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by MrGreaser:
Originally posted by WJ99:
Whats the score with 'obtained' games. How can I tell if they have been ripped originally with a 0800 reader?
When you the game check through ABGX, it will state "SS Version: 2 (trusted)" under the "checking SS" field.
Just checked all my games they are Version 1 is there away to patch the ss to version 2?

I have been backing up my games using the hot swap method in wxripper i assume i cannot use wxripper now with LT?
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20. January 2010 @ 10:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bigecky:
Originally posted by MrGreaser:
Originally posted by WJ99:
Whats the score with 'obtained' games. How can I tell if they have been ripped originally with a 0800 reader?
When you the game check through ABGX, it will state "SS Version: 2 (trusted)" under the "checking SS" field.
Just checked all my games they are Version 1 is there away to patch the ss to version 2?

I have been backing up my games using the hot swap method in wxripper i assume i cannot use wxripper now with LT?
Wxripper doesn't pull any stealth data at all. With wxripper you have to rely on ABGX to patch all the data back in. I would recommend getting a 0800 dedicated ripping drive.

You can fix the SS in all your games. You would have to copy the game back to your PC (or if you have the ISO saved) and inject a SSv2 into the ISO. Then re-burn the game. Make sure it has SplitVid too.

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20. January 2010 @ 11:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by leerage:
Originally posted by bigecky:
Originally posted by MrGreaser:
Originally posted by WJ99:
Whats the score with 'obtained' games. How can I tell if they have been ripped originally with a 0800 reader?
When you the game check through ABGX, it will state "SS Version: 2 (trusted)" under the "checking SS" field.
Just checked all my games they are Version 1 is there away to patch the ss to version 2?

I have been backing up my games using the hot swap method in wxripper i assume i cannot use wxripper now with LT?
Wxripper doesn't pull any stealth data at all. With wxripper you have to rely on ABGX to patch all the data back in. I would recommend getting a 0800 dedicated ripping drive.

You can fix the SS in all your games. You would have to copy the game back to your PC (or if you have the ISO saved) and inject a SSv2 into the ISO. Then re-burn the game. Make sure it has SplitVid too.
Thanks for the reply! Yeah i just used to let ABGX do all the patching, think i'll do as you say and flash one of my other drives for rpping.

Is here a place on the net that has SS bins to download? or is passing that info a no no.
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20. January 2010 @ 11:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bigecky:
Originally posted by leerage:
Originally posted by bigecky:
Originally posted by MrGreaser:
Originally posted by WJ99:
Whats the score with 'obtained' games. How can I tell if they have been ripped originally with a 0800 reader?
When you the game check through ABGX, it will state "SS Version: 2 (trusted)" under the "checking SS" field.
Just checked all my games they are Version 1 is there away to patch the ss to version 2?

I have been backing up my games using the hot swap method in wxripper i assume i cannot use wxripper now with LT?
Wxripper doesn't pull any stealth data at all. With wxripper you have to rely on ABGX to patch all the data back in. I would recommend getting a 0800 dedicated ripping drive.

You can fix the SS in all your games. You would have to copy the game back to your PC (or if you have the ISO saved) and inject a SSv2 into the ISO. Then re-burn the game. Make sure it has SplitVid too.
Thanks for the reply! Yeah i just used to let ABGX do all the patching, think i'll do as you say and flash one of my other drives for rpping.

Is here a place on the net that has SS bins to download? or is passing that info a no no.
Cheers
I believe 360patches.com or a site named like that. I'm not for sure if SSv2 is provided or not.

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20. January 2010 @ 11:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Its great that LT is out. Can ABGX patch downloaded isos to ssv2? BTW, is 1.6 0800 out for Hitachi yet? I could use my Hitachi LG to rip.
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20. January 2010 @ 11:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by leerage:
Originally posted by bigecky:
Originally posted by leerage:
Originally posted by bigecky:
Originally posted by MrGreaser:
Originally posted by WJ99:
Whats the score with 'obtained' games. How can I tell if they have been ripped originally with a 0800 reader?
When you the game check through ABGX, it will state "SS Version: 2 (trusted)" under the "checking SS" field.
Just checked all my games they are Version 1 is there away to patch the ss to version 2?

I have been backing up my games using the hot swap method in wxripper i assume i cannot use wxripper now with LT?
Wxripper doesn't pull any stealth data at all. With wxripper you have to rely on ABGX to patch all the data back in. I would recommend getting a 0800 dedicated ripping drive.

You can fix the SS in all your games. You would have to copy the game back to your PC (or if you have the ISO saved) and inject a SSv2 into the ISO. Then re-burn the game. Make sure it has SplitVid too.
Thanks for the reply! Yeah i just used to let ABGX do all the patching, think i'll do as you say and flash one of my other drives for rpping.

Is here a place on the net that has SS bins to download? or is passing that info a no no.
Cheers
I believe 360patches.com or a site named like that. I'm not for sure if SSv2 is provided or not.
Thank i'll check it out.
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20. January 2010 @ 11:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by htorihpeS:
Its great that LT is out. Can ABGX patch downloaded isos to ssv2? BTW, is 1.6 0800 out for Hitachi yet? I could use my Hitachi LG to rip.
If someone has uploaded a SSv2 to the ABGX data base, then yes. If not, it will remain SSv1.

There isn't ix 1.6 0800 for Hitachi and I'm guessing there won't ever be. I would just recommend getting a Samsung or BenQ and flash iX 1.6 0800 to it.

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anyone gone online yet to test out LT


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20. January 2010 @ 11:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Question for the "WISE" men also need feedback on my options.

I believe I have 1.61 on my LO drives, does 1.61 have 0800 capability? or is that just 1.6 only?

Of my 2 LO drives, 1 is banned, the other is not. SHould they have 0800 capabilities, would my BANNED console be best used as a rip drive to back up games?.

Since I bought a 3rd 360,(250gb MW2 version) Would you or would you not mod it with this version?

What do you guys think, play originals ONLINE only? and backup off line? whats the consesnsus omn that.

Lastly, given ABGX usually doesnt have verified info for atleast 2 weeks till after a game is released, given MOST people do download, IM assuming LT doesnt give any added security, meaning AT YOUR OWN RISK per say?


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20. January 2010 @ 12:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by tavek:
IM assuming LT doesnt give any added security, meaning AT YOUR OWN RISK per say?
No added sucurity. In fact, they took some of the previous security away. So it is very much "use at your own risk".
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Originally posted by tavek:
Question for the "WISE" men also need feedback on my options.

I believe I have 1.61 on my LO drives, does 1.61 have 0800 capability? or is that just 1.6 only?

Of my 2 LO drives, 1 is banned, the other is not. SHould they have 0800 capabilities, would my BANNED console be best used as a rip drive to back up games?.

Since I bought a 3rd 360,(250gb MW2 version) Would you or would you not mod it with this version?

What do you guys think, play originals ONLINE only? and backup off line? whats the consesnsus omn that.

Lastly, given ABGX usually doesnt have verified info for atleast 2 weeks till after a game is released, given MOST people do download, IM assuming LT doesnt give any added security, meaning AT YOUR OWN RISK per say?
To 100% guarantee yourself that you won't get banned in the next wave to come, dedicate 1 console, leave it unmodded to play online.

All risks are assumed when playing backups online even with iX LT. It is recommended that you have SSv2 in your game and SplitVid is required.

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20. January 2010 @ 12:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm starting to check my old backups and it seems abgx uses SSV1 for them. Is this the usual case if we rely on abgx for patching our backups? If so we would have to manually update it SSV2?
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20. January 2010 @ 13:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bludd:
I'm starting to check my old backups and it seems abgx uses SSV1 for them. Is this the usual case if we rely on abgx for patching our backups? If so we would have to manually update it SSV2?
Thats one thing I was thinking of (out of fear of ABGX) Im not going to lie I just grab games from newsgroups and have yet to rip ligit games. I have yet to really read up on the 0800 ripping ( I will when I have time ) but comon sense would say if you back up your own game, then just stelath it yourself, then you should NOT need abgx right?


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20. January 2010 @ 13:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by infam0us:
anyone gone online yet to test out LT

yes many people have, it works well. Only people that have been banned so far are those that were already flagged for banning
Originally posted by bludd:
I'm starting to check my old backups and it seems abgx uses SSV1 for them. Is this the usual case if we rely on abgx for patching our backups? If so we would have to manually update it SSV2?

not all games have SS v2. If it has SS v2 get it, if not dont worry about it. Splitvid is more important than SS v2 at the moment
Originally posted by tavek:

Thats one thing I was thinking of (out of fear of ABGX) Im not going to lie I just grab games from newsgroups and have yet to rip ligit games. I have yet to really read up on the 0800 ripping ( I will when I have time ) but comon sense would say if you back up your own game, then just stelath it yourself, then you should NOT need abgx right?

might as well check it in abgx to see if everything was ripped properly
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If/When Microsoft decides to request SSv2 responses, you'll kick yourself because you didn't go that extra mile to get SSv2.

Will they implement SSv2? Nobody knows. But I would rather have it then not have it.

I guess my point is you might as well go ahead and do it now and save yourself some time down then road. If you have to re-burn your discs now because they don't have SplitVid, you might as well get SSv2.

So for now, SSv1 is OK... but that may change.

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20. January 2010 @ 14:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok this is what I was basing my information on
<[TONE]> ssv2 is a way the discs were ripped
<[TONE]> are*
<[TONE]> in the ss area
<[TONE]> b4 challenge 5/7 were ripped once i believe and repeated during second calls to the cmd
<[TONE]> this was fine as every disc had the same info really with minor deviations
<[TONE]> this is why kreon rips were fine because it uses the same results hardocded intot he firm as the 0800 got from actual readings
<[TONE]> were/are!
<[TONE]> ssv2 takes actual readings of the 5/7 checks it doesnt repeat them
<[TONE]> it doesnt fake them in any ways
<[TONE]> but
<[TONE]> this will only be usefull once m$ changes things on the disc
<[TONE]> and afaik this has not changed since c4e said 0800 (old) rips were still safe
<[TONE]> also
<[TONE]> when/if m$ changes things
<[TONE]> only NEW games will need this
<[TONE]> they cant go back and change the way the disc was pressed u already bought..

however c4eva said this about a minute ago in irc:
<c4eva> yes, a very slight change in alignment , wave 3 onwards i think, so as to identify kreon rips!

edit: here's what he just said re: calibration data
<c4eva> cal data is not accessed by fw code at all but could be used by other processes,its value is still unknown, but since full dumps are now available, included for correctness

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