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freeboot or XBReboot?
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25. January 2010 @ 18:38 |
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I'm about to homebrew my 360 so I'm making preparations. However, I don't know if I should use freeboot or XBReboot.
Any opinions/reasoning?
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jpizzle
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25. January 2010 @ 18:44 |
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XBR all the way! there is a FAQ both here and over there if you search but XBR is the way to go
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25. January 2010 @ 18:47 |
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Originally posted by jpizzle:
XBR all the way! there is a FAQ both here and over there if you search but XBR is the way to go
Ok cool thanks. Do you have any personal reasoning? And could you save me a bit of time and link me to the FAQ? Thanks
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Budro
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jpizzle
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25. January 2010 @ 18:49 |
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are you using the chip or not ?
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25. January 2010 @ 18:52 |
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Nope, I am not :)
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jpizzle
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25. January 2010 @ 18:53 |
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then i believe your only option is XBR
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25. January 2010 @ 18:53 |
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I went with XBR because you do not need to have a second nand like with Freeboot. I have not messed with Freeboot so I am in no way bashing it. So far I have had zero issues with XBR.
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25. January 2010 @ 18:55 |
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Cool, that's good to know.
I'm so excited for my homebrew! lol I just need to get a dang lpt cable lol. Should be pretty easy. The soldering points are a lot larger than my liteon 93, so I bet I could do it lol.
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jpizzle
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25. January 2010 @ 19:23 |
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good luck bro, what board do you have ?
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25. January 2010 @ 22:41 |
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I've got a zephyr :) I'm stoked for this lol
I got my LPT cable constructed (with a little help from my trusty multi-meter), I've got all my research done, it's time to rock and roll :) I just need saturday to come! lol
Thanks for the help and opinions guys!
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Budro
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25. January 2010 @ 22:48 |
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I just traded my banned, updated system for another banned system that could be homebrewed. I plan on doing this hack myself soon, so I appreciate the info.
Can I piggyback on this thread momentum and add the question of how exactly playing games directly from a hard drive works with XBReboot?
Can I play them from a NTFS hard drive, or only FAT32?
What file format are the game images in? I've seen XEX, which seems to be a 360 executable file.
If image files are XEX format, how to I change a DVD ISO into an XEX game image for XBReboot to read?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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25. January 2010 @ 23:56 |
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If image files are XEX format, how to I change a DVD ISO into an XEX game image for XBReboot to read?
You don´t, you extract the files from the image, then your default.xex will be in the root, then you transfer it to your storage device.
I´ts all explained in various tutorials, guides, nfo´s, faq´s and readme´s, take part of the documentation that is available.
I too, have had nothing but good times with XBR, good luck!
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26. January 2010 @ 04:41 |
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You use Xbox Backup Creator to rip your ISO's to the structured folders. You then navigate to the folder you extracted the ISO to in XEXLoader.
Think if your using a external HDD, then the file formats need to be either FAT or a MAC format which i cant remember.
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26. January 2010 @ 10:46 |
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Thanks for the info, guys. It is much appreciated. I really have read up on it a bit, but an in-depth explanation of minor details like these tend to be fleeting in any guide, tutorial, or video I look at.
FAT32 sure is a downer, though. I wonder if somebody will be able to write an NTFS driver for the system now that it is compromised...
Or, maybe it would be possible to set up a separate FAT32 partition on an already-existing internal hard drive of your PC, and share it over USB?
Or perhaps creating a file-system emulator? In other words, software that reads an NTFS file system and converts the structure to that of FAT32 within the software's system memory/page file, and shares the FAT32 version with the 360.
The upside of a system like that would be that you could store all of your games on one hard drive, and not have an NTFS drive for long-term storage and a FAT32 drive for short-term play on the 360, as the NTFS filesystem is much more efficient at handling large file sizes and big hard drives (less wasted space compared to FAT32).
The downside would be that you would need a beefy PC and a fast HDD to accomplish this goal. Also, gigabit ethernet would be necessary if you could figure out how to access images over network shares, which may be much easier to implement than USB filesharing.
Of course everything I've just said is moot if the MAC filesystem is compatible and has a cluster size more comparable to NTFS and is therefore more efficient with space than FAT32.
PS -- another great thing to look forward to with homebrew -- a mouse may now soon be able to be used within 360 games without any crazy expensive 3rd party hardware :)
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26. January 2010 @ 20:13 |
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The 360 has some kind of workaround for the 4gb size limit of fat32, but this might prove to be a problem once we´ll want to store 1080p videos on our drives, but I´m not sure.
Why would you want to stream games over a netvork? I remeber doing this with the gamecube, and it blew. So much easier with a usb hdd, or your stock Ms Drive.
I remember ps2 having a specific filesystem for HD-loader, in comparison I´d rather have FAT32 than that sort of solution, just so you´d be able to browse it under windows.
But I can´t say anythhing for sure as I havn´t plugged my external drive to my 360 yet (waiting to backup my 500gb to a 1tb, and then format the 500 for the 360)
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PS -- another great thing to look forward to with homebrew -- a mouse may now soon be able to be used within 360 games without any crazy expensive 3rd party hardware :)
I don´t think so, to do this you´d have to link two usb ports for one player (Mouse=Aim Keyboard=Move) even though this might work under XBR (or something), it will NEVER work in a game, because they just aren´t desingned to do that. That would be like using two regular controllers, in separate usb ports, one to move with the thumbsticks, and one to shoot with the buttons. Impossible.
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27. January 2010 @ 00:37 |
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I wouldn't really want to stream games over a network if I had a choice. However, I'd rather have the system access a game image over a gigabit ethernet cable and get them from a NTFS hard drive connected to my PC that is emulating a FAT32 drive than use up tons more space by using a dedicated FAT32 hard drive specifically for the 360. I already have a 1TB or so of game backups, and that is with the NTFS cluster size. I shudder to think of what that would grow to when using FAT32.
Transfer shouldn't be a problem. 100Mb ethernet caps at about 11MB/s. Gigabit ethernet "typically transfers" at around 30MB/s. USB 2.0 only does 35MB/s or so. DVD 12x is only something like 15MB/s. I don't think it would be so bad with the right setup.
HFS+ (Mac file system) is now supported for homebrew, and is supposedly close to NTFS in features. You would think this would be the obvious format to go for and the "emulate FAT32 from PC" thing would be a moot point. However, HFS+ cannot be read by a Windows machine without special software. Still, this might end up being a better solution. Especially if you can just FTP into the HFS hard drive that is connected to your 360, this might not be a bad solution to the problem of not having access to NTFS.
As far as the mouse thing goes, there actually are already various versions of a mouse hardware hack specifically for the 360. I am thinking that a software hack can't be too much more difficult when the system is completely open. But who knows?
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27. January 2010 @ 06:30 |
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Originally posted by qwert99:
As far as the mouse thing goes, there actually are already various versions of a mouse hardware hack specifically for the 360.
Do you have any links to this info?
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27. January 2010 @ 11:53 |
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Sorry, can't remember specifics about the mouse hardware hack at the moment. There are 2 groups (companies?) that make the hacks, and supposedly one is much better than the other. There have been threads on Afterdawn that have discussed this issue before as well. Hopefully somebody else will actually remember the name of the product.
It works by taking a 360 controller and mapping the various buttons/controls to a hardware box to which a mouse is connected. The mouse's actions are then translated into actions reproducable by the 360 controller, which sends the commands to the 360 without the 360 having any clue that a mouse is being used.
However, there is only a certain type of controller that can be used with this system, and supposedly it is in very short supply. For that reason, this mouse hack is pretty much a non-starter at this point. Not only that, but it costs a helluva lot of money to buy the hardware package as well.
Hopefully homebrew will be able to eliminate that roadblock. If I could play all of my FPS games with a mouse and not a controller... oh boy.
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