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4. April 2010 @ 13:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, you can do (make sure the USB drive is plugged straight into the PC, preferably one of the ports at the back, and not a USB hub) but if no success, I think RMA time.



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5. April 2010 @ 00:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Not having a go, just pointing out that it's not quite as simple as adding the TDPs up. PC components never use exactly their rated wattage, it depends what you do and also how the chip was classified. Some 125W chips use 118W when maxed out, others 145W. The same goes for graphics cards, you can't just add the figures up.
I'm not disrecommending the 400W CX unit, far from it. However, 400W is more than sufficient for this system. If there was a 350W Corsair unit I'd probably recommend that, but there isn't, so the 400 will do. A good brand is more important than the exact right wattage. Besides, the extra available power can be used for future upgrades.
Dude you are frustrating. You argue that I'm incorect when your arriving at the same conclusion as me. Plus as I stated its only an indication, and in most cases it is as simple as that.

The 12v rail is really the only major concirm with a most items drawing heavily on it (such that a 400W could have voltage problems but in this case its doubtfull) so adding up all the TDP's generally a good way to tell if the PSU has enough juice.

A good indication is to add up all the watts your system will be using (add 30% more), see if the PSU is rated to this then see how many Amps you will be drawing and see if it can deliver enough with out being overloaded.

Its important to remember a PSU's wattage rating isn't conducive to determining amperage at any specific voltage. As mentioned above, modern computers are 12V-heavy loads. A 400W PSU may sound adequate, but if its 12V amperage is in the low 20s or less it may not be able to power a modern computer so it is just as important to calculate the Amps (as best you can) as well as the watts.

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5. April 2010 @ 05:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nope, you're frustrating, I'm not arguing that you're incorrect, I'm just pointing out that things aren't as simple as you say they are. The best way to figure out what PSU you need is to use real world data on how much power systems draw, apply the PSU's known efficiency rating and work it out from that. TDPs are much too vague to say for sure. Generally, you get a rough trend emerging. A PC with a single PCIe 6-pin graphics card and a quad core CPU is going to be fine on a 400W CPU, but one with two 6-pins or a 6+8 should be using at least a 450, preferably a 550, to be safe. Four 6-pin config and you want a 650/750, and so on. Choosing PSUs solely on summing the TDPs of the hardware isn't really that accurate, as it does not consider the number of connectors required.



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5. April 2010 @ 06:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That is only one of the tests to do when finding a PSU. I'M NOT NOW OR NEVER SAID you purchase a PSU solely on the TPD's, thats only one indication to look for. Many times people have brought generic PSU's with high watts and low amps that can't power their rig. I was reinforcing that it wouldnt be the case here as he will have some move to room in that department.

As you already stated it has a single PCIe power connector and he will only be using around 120W so I assume you have done calculations of your own. Why reiterate them, the only thing left to comment on was amp usage which hadnt been discussed.

Everything comes into consideration, I was only posting on one aspect and its naive of you to assume that its the only consideration I make when choosing a PSU. Who wouldnt check its efficiency or connectors, that is assumed. I know to look for ATX12V v2.2 standard, 80 PLUS Certification, Over Current/Voltage/Power Protection, Under Voltage
Protection and Short Circuit Protection but why burden people with all that when a little information from each poster gives the thread maker a solid base to weigh his options and come to a decision.

I really don't want to have a go at you mate I never ment to indicate its that simple. I was only scratching the surface, if he wanted to know more or posted about why that PSU would suit him I would have gone into a lot more detail as would have you. Thats really all I have to say. I don't want to hijack beccajay2's thread anymore, lets focus on him.

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