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'Avatar' DVD-Screener hits P2P, torrents
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article published on 4 February, 2010
A DVD-Screener copy of the highest-grossing film of all-time, Avatar, has hit P2P and torrents today, coming just a few days after Academy members received the screener from Fox.
Until today, telesync versions had been available, and total downloads were estimated at over 2 million just from torrent downloads. The first copy available was Avatar DVDScr xvid - IMAGiNE.
The new screener ... [ read the full article ]
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pirkster
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5. February 2010 @ 14:45 |
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How much do you think a movie like "Gone With Wind", (which I think is one of the highest grossing onse when "adjusted for inflation") would make nowadays? Probably not more than any other cheesy love story that's coming out and is gone in a weekend today...
As I've posted in other Avatar articles, it is impossible to compare Gone With The Wind, which is a classic from an era where movies where just getting started to Avatar, no matter how much tickets have inflated since then. Now the first Star Wars, on the other hand...
I would also like to see a population/accessibility examined, too.
Population has exploded since then, and there are more theatres everywhere around the world.
I'd wager the Gone With the Wind figures were astounding, considering the number of folks who had access to see the movie vs those who actually did see the movie. A very high percentage, I'm sure. Much higher than any film could probably produce today. There are simply more entertainment options even though world population has increased sharply since then.
The original poster doesn't have much of a point about the story behind Gone With the Wind, because most films are most relevant to the times they are introduced. Using that logic, a story like Avatar would never have even been greenlit back in the day because it wouldn't have been "sellable" to the public. So, trading places, GWTW likely still would have fared better.
Distribution systems are bigger and more efficient today, and reach many, many more customers than they have in the past. GWTW likely tapped a higher percentage of the few customers it was able to reach in it's time compared to what Avatar did in today's global market. Not taking anything away from Avatar... I'm happy for his success, but GWTW deserves it's due credit for attaining a tremendous following in its time. Had Avatar attracted as many viewers as GWTW (as a percentage of those globally who had access to seeing the movie) it would be even much more successful than it even is today.
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5. February 2010 @ 15:21 |
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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
How much do you think a movie like "Gone With Wind", (which I think is one of the highest grossing onse when "adjusted for inflation") would make nowadays? Probably not more than any other cheesy love story that's coming out and is gone in a weekend today...
As I've posted in other Avatar articles, it is impossible to compare Gone With The Wind, which is a classic from an era where movies where just getting started to Avatar, no matter how much tickets have inflated since then. Now the first Star Wars, on the other hand...
I would also like to see a population/accessibility examined, too.
Population has exploded since then, and there are more theatres everywhere around the world.
I'd wager the Gone With the Wind figures were astounding, considering the number of folks who had access to see the movie vs those who actually did see the movie. A very high percentage, I'm sure. Much higher than any film could probably produce today. There are simply more entertainment options even though world population has increased sharply since then.
The original poster doesn't have much of a point about the story behind Gone With the Wind, because most films are most relevant to the times they are introduced. Using that logic, a story like Avatar would never have even been greenlit back in the day because it wouldn't have been "sellable" to the public. So, trading places, GWTW likely still would have fared better.
Distribution systems are bigger and more efficient today, and reach many, many more customers than they have in the past. GWTW likely tapped a higher percentage of the few customers it was able to reach in it's time compared to what Avatar did in today's global market. Not taking anything away from Avatar... I'm happy for his success, but GWTW deserves it's due credit for attaining a tremendous following in its time. Had Avatar attracted as many viewers as GWTW (as a percentage of those globally who had access to seeing the movie) it would be even much more successful than it even is today.
Based on a similar logic, how many choices did people have back then? How many options did people have for entertainment? Now you have hundreds of television shows, you have DVD rentals, direct streaming, movie downloads. Take all those options away, and I am sure a greater majority of people would've said "lets go and watch a movie", and out of those quite a few would've chosen Avatar for example.
How many people did say in 1939 "I will wait and buy it on Blu Ray or DVD", or "I will rent it from Netflix"? None, because they didn't have the choice, the only choice was to see it when it was out, and they went...so there's your increase in numbers...
All these speculations and "inflation adjustments" are close to being pointless, like comparing apples with oranges.
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5. February 2010 @ 15:29 |
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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
How much do you think a movie like "Gone With Wind", (which I think is one of the highest grossing onse when "adjusted for inflation") would make nowadays? Probably not more than any other cheesy love story that's coming out and is gone in a weekend today...
As I've posted in other Avatar articles, it is impossible to compare Gone With The Wind, which is a classic from an era where movies where just getting started to Avatar, no matter how much tickets have inflated since then. Now the first Star Wars, on the other hand...
I would also like to see a population/accessibility examined, too.
Population has exploded since then, and there are more theatres everywhere around the world.
I'd wager the Gone With the Wind figures were astounding, considering the number of folks who had access to see the movie vs those who actually did see the movie. A very high percentage, I'm sure. Much higher than any film could probably produce today. There are simply more entertainment options even though world population has increased sharply since then.
The original poster doesn't have much of a point about the story behind Gone With the Wind, because most films are most relevant to the times they are introduced. Using that logic, a story like Avatar would never have even been greenlit back in the day because it wouldn't have been "sellable" to the public. So, trading places, GWTW likely still would have fared better.
Distribution systems are bigger and more efficient today, and reach many, many more customers than they have in the past. GWTW likely tapped a higher percentage of the few customers it was able to reach in it's time compared to what Avatar did in today's global market. Not taking anything away from Avatar... I'm happy for his success, but GWTW deserves it's due credit for attaining a tremendous following in its time. Had Avatar attracted as many viewers as GWTW (as a percentage of those globally who had access to seeing the movie) it would be even much more successful than it even is today.
Based on a similar logic, how many choices did people have back then? How many options did people have for entertainment? Now you have hundreds of television shows, you have DVD rentals, direct streaming, movie downloads. Take all those options away, and I am sure a greater majority of people would've said "lets go and watch a movie", and out of those quite a few would've chosen Avatar for example.
How many people did say in 1939 "I will wait and buy it on Blu Ray or DVD", or "I will rent it from Netflix"? None, because they didn't have the choice, the only choice was to see it when it was out, and they went...so there's your increase in numbers...
All these speculations and "inflation adjustments" are close to being pointless, like comparing apples with oranges.
Exactly my point as well Cyprus. Also, how many movies were even released in 1939? 20 at most. Nowadays we have hundreds of releases, with many considered "blockbusters." In 1939, I would have seen Gone With The Wind too, what other movie was I going to see? :P
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5. February 2010 @ 15:39 |
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^^^Indeed DVDBack....
I am sure they released quite a few movies in 1939, part of the "Golden Age" era for Hollywood, but most of them I would probably consider a torture to sit through...Differen times, different tastes. GWTW would probably would nowadays make enough money just to cover costs...It would become an instant "classic" forgotten...
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5. February 2010 @ 16:12 |
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Ahhhhhh no. I have seen at least 5 versions of this "screener" (after I yelled at the people who downloaded it and asked them if they had $250,000. to throw away then give it to me) and every one of these versions were out of sync-choppy-jerky-washed out color-or just horrendisly encoded so as to make them worthless. And that was on a computer screen, the larger the screen went the worse it got.
Personally, I dont think James Cameron nor any studio in Hollywood has a bleedin thing to worry about as if this is the best they can do and call them screeners, then Hollywood is not losing any money over this or losing less money then the workers cost them when they take (ie steal) props from the soundstage.
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5. February 2010 @ 16:26 |
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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
^^^Indeed DVDBack....
I am sure they released quite a few movies in 1939, part of the "Golden Age" era for Hollywood, but most of them I would probably consider a torture to sit through...Differen times, different tastes. GWTW would probably would nowadays make enough money just to cover costs...It would become an instant "classic" forgotten...
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Movie_releases_in_1939
19 movies, the Sherlock Holmes and Wizard of Oz are the only other classics there, that I can see.
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5. February 2010 @ 16:38 |
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5. February 2010 @ 17:58 |
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If you want to just watch it right now online you can go to http://www.icefilms.info/ it is there to be watched for free and if you follow the optional directions you can get it a better connection. There are 1000's of movies available to watch on demand.
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pmshah
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6. February 2010 @ 08:13 |
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I believe MAXSPEED is the DVD screener. I just watched the "Sample" with someone, looked good.
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