How could Iriez have been lying? For a while, the firmware for a particular drive wasn't free and the only way you could get it was from foundmy.com. It was only released to everyone because someone else cracked the encryption they were using. c4eva created that firmware, so how could foundmy possibly have been the only place to get it if he hadn't provided it to them?
To me, it looked like the exact same thing was set up to happen with LT, with several resellers getting set up to offer it for a fee and offering samples, but then someone else cracked the encryption again and next minute it's being offered for free.
Originally posted by funksoulb: How could Iriez have been lying? For a while, the firmware for a particular drive wasn't free and the only way you could get it was from foundmy.com. It was only released to everyone because someone else cracked the encryption they were using. c4eva created that firmware, so how could foundmy possibly have been the only place to get it if he hadn't provided it to them?
Actually that's not correct at all. The firmware has always been free. What Foundmy was doing was charging for key retrieval when the Lite On 83850 came out. That had nothing to do with C4E or iXtreme. http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EkuAkZyAZlkVqSYLrE.php
Originally posted by funksoulb: To me, it looked like the exact same thing was set up to happen with LT, with several resellers getting set up to offer it for a fee and offering samples, but then someone else cracked the encryption again and next minute it's being offered for free.
And that's not true, either. No one cracked LT. A beta copy was released by one of the testers. As for sites offering LT for cash, there were what, two sites, and they were no-name sites accepting orders trying to sucker people in to paying for LT. And again, those sites said that LT wasn't available at the time of ordering. So the fact is they didn't have any prior access to LT either. I could have thrown together a site charging $50 for LT and probably would have made a pretty penny from a few people who didn't know any better.
This is exactly what I'm saying. People outside the scene are blowing things way out of proportion. And then others who have no idea what's going on read their claims and take it as fact, and it just goes on and on.
You're right about the foundmy thing, but then I have no reason to believe that Iriez would just make shit up about c4e just for the sake of it. As for LT, Geremia was the one that cracked the encryption on a release he got from ban-guard. Iriez and Geremia aren't people outside of the scene.
If c4e was trying to make money out of it, so what? I'm not having a go at him or anyone else. I literally couldn't care less. It's just amusing to me that people view these guys as Robin Hood type characters who couldn't possibly become motivated by financial gain.
Originally posted by funksoulb: If c4e was trying to make money out of it, so what?
Oh, I completely agree. I mean, after all, it costs these guys money to make this firmware. Decapping isn't free. Test consoles aren't free.
All that gets me is when just the notion of maybe asking a fee for the firmware hits the public, almost everyone goes nuts. All of the sudden it's "greedy" this and "money hungry" that. And in the end it's still free, just like they said it would be.
