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AfterDawn redesign goes to beta

article published on 19 February, 2010

After nearly a year's worth of work, the new version of AfterDawn's backend and layout is almost ready for the prime time. Still some minor bugs need to be fixed, a few mysterious issues need to be addressed, etc. but it is almost ready (we'd say 99% done) and you can test it now. So, please visit AfterDawn "v4" at: http://www.v4.afterdawn.com/ or click here to view this news article ... [ read the full article ]

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19. February 2010 @ 10:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nice new design. Although it's probably going to take something for me to get used to it.
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19. February 2010 @ 11:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
SSSoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..... can we haz the report button for comments finally?

Nice to the PM feature...but reporting in comments without goign to the forums would be nice.....

Also make home more streamlined, less word and smaller pictures for each article so you can look through them quicker... oh I see..... under latest I haz a quick summery...ok....I like! APPROVED!! *slaps some drool on it*

A link to your profile needs to be by edit profile.

I will post more thigns later...mmm yyeess...it pretty....mmmm

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 19. February 2010 @ 11:55

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19. February 2010 @ 12:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So is there no longer a quick way to look at the threads that you've subscribed to?

And it looks nicer than the original layout. As OmriSama said, it'd take a while for me to get used to but it's all good.

Quick Reply for the win.
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19. February 2010 @ 12:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ooo is nniiceeeee(posting from V4)
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19. February 2010 @ 13:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Very nice. You will probably get a lot of criticism from us web developing folk, but the layout is cleaner, spaced out and easy to navigate. Will take a lot more scrolling than the old site maybe? lol
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19. February 2010 @ 13:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Zippy: Each post has the red exclamation mark that'll act as the "bust your buddy" button. Each user's nick is a clickable thingy that has PM options, etc underneath it. Quick link to your own posts will come to the site later this spring - plan is to include variety of options to the top part of the page, next to your own nick.

But ye, this is very much a work in progress. We hope to go live in 1-2 weeks time after all the bugs have been squashed, after which, we will focus on further improvements/new features ("v4.1" if you like).

Btw. At the very bottom of the page, you see the latest revision number of the site, just to track if we've fixed something since you last visited.
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19. February 2010 @ 13:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dRD:
Zippy: Each post has the red exclamation mark that'll act as the "bust your buddy" button. Each user's nick is a clickable thingy that has PM options, etc underneath it. Quick link to your own posts will come to the site later this spring - plan is to include variety of options to the top part of the page, next to your own nick.

But ye, this is very much a work in progress. We hope to go live in 1-2 weeks time after all the bugs have been squashed, after which, we will focus on further improvements/new features ("v4.1" if you like).

Btw. At the very bottom of the page, you see the latest revision number of the site, just to track if we've fixed something since you last visited.
I see it now,nice but I like it there at the top of the site, no need to go into a article,ect to get to my profile page.

The rest is looking good...mmm shiny *licklicklick* LOL
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19. February 2010 @ 14:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As a trial run it may pay to change:
xbox to "Original xbox" on all of those headings for the first xbox then dump "Xbox 360 General Discussion" & change to "Xbox 360 All Topics"

It more than likley won't make a scrap of diff & idiots will still post 360 questions in the xbox forums,still it's worth a shot failing that posts should be deleted & person given lifetime ban,actually no a 3 strikes your out policy..lmao...
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19. February 2010 @ 14:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
looks great to me, more sleek, ssems you all can fit more info perpage. looks pretty good so far.
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19. February 2010 @ 17:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think....I want my money back.
Just kidding...

look's great !
cheers!
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19. February 2010 @ 19:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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SSSoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..... can we haz the report button for comments finally?
SNITCH!...no just kidding don't report me.
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23. February 2010 @ 09:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by chris:
Just think of how much the mods will complain now with no need to sign up to spam.
We use automated spam blocks to prevent actual spam. Of course, silly comments will remain a problem, but they have been a problem whether the site has required registration or not :-)

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Some of the new site is in French (or some other European language). If you scroll down in a news article to related news, "muut uutiset" is the title for the news articles.
It is in Finnish :-) I've fixed that now, alongside tons of other issues as well.
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23. February 2010 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Woah lookin' fresh, really like the home page over the old one, how it shows the entire article so no more crazy clickin' :)

Also do like comment box at the bottom of the article, just faster that way.
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23. February 2010 @ 16:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is there an RSS link to v4?
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23. February 2010 @ 23:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think it looks very good. I believe your headed in the right direction.

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24. February 2010 @ 00:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Unlike the existing aD site, it does not scale with the width of the browser. This is something I liked about the old aD. The new graphics look excellent, but this I think is fundamentally important.
Example:
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1231/adv4.jpg
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5441/adold.jpg

Note how much more fits on one line with a wide browser window.
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24. February 2010 @ 00:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I like it... Very clean and sharp looking... Great job guys!
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24. February 2010 @ 02:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Unlike the existing aD site, it does not scale with the width of the browser. This is something I liked about the old aD. The new graphics look excellent, but this I think is fundamentally important.
Example:
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1231/adv4.jpg
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5441/adold.jpg

Note how much more fits on one line with a wide browser window.
This is actually something we investigated, tested, read articles and studies about and tweaked before deciding to take the "fixed width" route.

Reasoning: Wide-screen monitors and large screen resolutions have become a norm -- you can pick a 24" BenQ from any local retailer for ?150/$200. Now, the problem is that while more advanced users usually multitask with their displays, most people don't (and as AfterDawn reaches 5M people each month, quite large percentage of those users are "Joe Averages") -- their browser windows are almost always maxed to the screen size, meaning a width of 1600, 1680 or 1920.

When we moved from original fixed width variable width 8 years ago, the massive screen resolutions weren't a problem, as pretty much nobody had those in use :-)

Now, as evident in your screenshots, this means that one line can contain more text. But even though it is fine for some people, for most people it isn't. According to tons of studies, a limited line length is actually better for reading, rather than a long one. One industry that is about 400 years older than Net, has tried and tested this issue several times -- newspapers and magazines use certain column length for a reason and the reason is that shorter lines are easier for eyes and easier to read.

Added to the facts stated above, designing a site for fixed width allows us to do certain small things with the layout and design that can't be achieved with variable width.

Thus, the fixed width. I know, some people will hate it at first, but based on the feedback we've had on our Finnish site, even the most hardcore opponents of the change have later admitted that the new layout is "quite good" :-) (on Finnish site, where the new layout was launched in November, the layout change caused a massive wave of complaints and we've fixed, improved and polished most of the issues by now, thus, you guys are having it bit easier this time ;-).

Originally posted by ElTwo:
Is there an RSS link to v4?
RSS links, titles, buttons, occasional missing templates and various bugs are being fixed, added and squashed as we speak. We expect this version to replace the current "v3" within next two weeks, once everything seems to be in order. Thus, browse the site, test things and let us know if you find anything weird.
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24. February 2010 @ 07:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Under "Software Downloads" on the new site, you're only able to see the 10 most recent updates when you go to "Latest Additions"

With the current site, you have the option of many more and the ability to see what was added on previous days...

With a limit of only 10 updates listed, you will need to be checking multiple times a day (maybe even several times an hour) to make sure you haven't missed something important or perhaps something new you might be interested in trying.. NOT a good idea.
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24. February 2010 @ 07:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Joleca:
Under "Software Downloads" on the new site, you're only able to see the 10 most recent updates when you go to "Latest Additions"

With the current site, you have the option of many more and the ability to see what was added on previous days...

With a limit of only 10 updates listed, you will need to be checking multiple times a day (maybe even several times an hour) to make sure you haven't missed something important or perhaps something new you might be interested in trying.. NOT a good idea.
Actually, the good olde listing is still there, just the link on the main front page seems to be missing (we'll fix that, thanks):

http://www.v4.afterdawn.com/software/latest_additions/
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24. February 2010 @ 07:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Apparently the "new comment added" message sent via email did contain an incorrect URL. This and handful of other issues have been fixed now.
Sam6226
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24. February 2010 @ 08:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i like the new layout
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24. February 2010 @ 20:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The design seems very nice. Perhaps now is a good time to find
a better way to deal with the SPAM in the forums.

On most other forums I've joined, new members must have their first
few posts reviewed by an administrator before they're allowed to be
visible on the forums.

Is this feasible at Afterdawn?
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24. February 2010 @ 22:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I love the new design and it is very easy too navigate.

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