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SS1 SS2 Lite touch question
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GeezerJT
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19. February 2010 @ 15:58 |
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Sorry if all this has been asked before but i have been browsing various forums and still dont really understand.
For aquired games that i have not ripped myself i have quite a few that come with SS1 for example mass effect 2 Disc 1 (disc 2) is fine, all my games are run through abgx
Are all games not safe to use online if they are SS1? have i caused a problem if i have used mass effect already? console hasnt been online since being flashed though.
And if they do need to be patched to be SS2 how do i go about doing this, as abgx doest do it.
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GeezerJT
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20. February 2010 @ 14:59 |
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Anyone able to help?
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qwert99
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20. February 2010 @ 17:07 |
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SSv1 game are probably not safe to use on an Xbox that you want to stay un-banned, whether you are connected to the internet when you play them or not. This is really just speculation since we don't know much about MS security features, but why not err on the side of caution, you know? There's no use in crying of spilled milk, so don't worry about what you've done in the past, just start using SSv2 now.
You can patch SSv2 into games that don't have it by ABGX and a downloaded, legit, SSv2 file from the ABGX website, or other places. You then use ABGX to manually patch the file into the ISO when the patching process is executed.
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20. February 2010 @ 17:11 |
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The first benq 0800 release will rip ssv1, this has been considered safe by C4 himself.
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[01:57] <+c4eva> other drives are on the agenda
[01:58] <+c4eva> Even hitachi!
[01:58] <n8ofsp8ds> preferred SS v2 ? what if its v1
[01:58] <+c4eva> SS v2 is best, yes!
[02:00] <chieftex> THE question is - do we flash to stock first before accepting any updates from LIVE?
[02:00] <+c4eva> chieftex:that will be answered soon!
[04:20] <+RapStar> leaked fw was the same as this one people say
[04:21] <+c4eva> rapstar:no its not
[04:32] <+c4eva> ss v1 created using a 360 drive is fine, kreon is not!
[04:33] <+DxS> so if u wanna be safe, rip ur own games with a 360 drive
[04:33] <+DxS> 0800 standalone fw
[04:33] <+c4eva> dxs:correct
[18:50] <+c4eva> hello
[18:51] <@[TONE]> has there been changes by m$ yet on the discs?
[18:53] <+c4eva> yes, a very slight change in alignment , wave 3 onwards i think, so as to identify kreon rips!
[18:59] <+lt83850> c4 - elaborate more on calibration data when you get time as well, why was the addition added
now if it wasn't even discussed for months? any additions?
[19:14] <+c4eva> cal data is not accessed by fw code at all but could be used by other processes,its value is
still unknown, but since full dumps are now available, included for correctness
[12:07] <ratodopar> lt has no stealth i guess
[12:07] <+c4eva> LT has full stealth
[12:10] <|avfc2k|> c4eva whats best for banned box wave loading wise the non stealth or LT?
[12:10] <+c4eva> LT
[12:11] <ratodopar> even new games are ssv1
[12:12] <+c4eva> ssv1 from a 360 drive is good!
[12:14] <+c4eva> kreon:wave1 ,wave 2 ok, but 360 drive is always best!
[12:18] <Kushan> Right now SSv1 is fine, SSv2 is only needed if something changes. Splitvid is NEEDED for iXtreme
LT. There you go.
[12:19] <Kushan> when SSv2 is "needed", it'll be for games from that point onwards, not previous game
[12:20] <Kushan> SSv1/SSv2 are a firmware thing from c4eva and co
[12:20] <Kushan> it just refers to the angles used when the game disk is pressed
[12:21] <+c4eva> 359 is left as is, if jitter result is 360 then it is set to 0
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qwert99
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20. February 2010 @ 17:28 |
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Thanks for the great chat log. Very informative and answered a lot of my questions.
To me, that reads as basically saying that the last ban wave was due in large part to Kreon rips of games and the lack of SSv2. Since compliance with new angles is better now, hopefully that means we won't see another ban wave massacre like the last one.
Regarding 0800 drives dumping SSv1 files, it sounds from the log like there is indeed a new revision of the firmware for those BenQ drives that report SSv1. If that's the case, people that are ripping those should really update the drive's firmware to correct what sounds like a pretty annoying bug. Is there a way to tell what type of drive was used to rip a game 'in the wild', anyway? I have always just tried on SSv1 vs SSv2.
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GeezerJT
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20. February 2010 @ 21:39 |
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Originally posted by qwert99:
SSv1 game are probably not safe to use on an Xbox that you want to stay un-banned, whether you are connected to the internet when you play them or not. This is really just speculation since we don't know much about MS security features, but why not err on the side of caution, you know? There's no use in crying of spilled milk, so don't worry about what you've done in the past, just start using SSv2 now.
You can patch SSv2 into games that don't have it by ABGX and a downloaded, legit, SSv2 file from the ABGX website, or other places. You then use ABGX to manually patch the file into the ISO when the patching process is executed.
Hi thanks for the response, how do you use abgx to patch games with SS2? i thought mine was set corretly but i guess not.
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afi360
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20. February 2010 @ 22:35 |
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hi, is it ok to play ssv1 with older games which are wave 1/2 or do they need ssv2 aswell
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qwert99
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21. February 2010 @ 00:16 |
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Originally posted by GeezerJT:
Hi thanks for the response, how do you use abgx to patch games with SS2? i thought mine was set corretly but i guess not.
Click the "manually patch" tab. Click "SS". Choose your SS file.
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$15 on burn after burn that showed as a DVD -- Check
$11 on new laser -- Check
$28 on new multimeter -- Check
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GeezerJT
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21. February 2010 @ 07:22 |
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Originally posted by qwert99:
Originally posted by GeezerJT:
Hi thanks for the response, how do you use abgx to patch games with SS2? i thought mine was set corretly but i guess not.
Click the "manually patch" tab. Click "SS". Choose your SS file.
Where would you get the SS files from? and is this the best thing to do?
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GeezerJT
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22. February 2010 @ 19:56 |
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Originally posted by GeezerJT:
Originally posted by qwert99:
Originally posted by GeezerJT:
Hi thanks for the response, how do you use abgx to patch games with SS2? i thought mine was set corretly but i guess not.
Click the "manually patch" tab. Click "SS". Choose your SS file.
Where would you get the SS files from? and is this the best thing to do?
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GeezerJT
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23. February 2010 @ 23:39 |
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Hi again i have found the files i need on the abgx site, but how do you actually patch them with abgx?
I have downloaded the ss file click patch with the file and then ran abgx and it still shows up as ss1
sorry for all the questions
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24. February 2010 @ 05:20 |
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Originally posted by GeezerJT:
Hi again i have found the files i need on the abgx site, but how do you actually patch them with abgx?
I have downloaded the ss file click patch with the file and then ran abgx and it still shows up as ss1
sorry for all the questions
Here is a guide on manually patching ssv1 to ssv2 in 12 simple steps
1:Go to _http://abgx360.net/verified.php, use the blue number on the right hand side of your game to obtain an SS and DMI combination (still must match the XEX of your game)
2:Load ABGX360, Go to the "Manually Patch or Extract Files" tab,
3:Tick "Patch even if stealth passes
4:Tick the Patch SS, & Patch DMI, then browse for the files you just downloaded.
5:Go to the options tab and UN-tick "Verify if stealth passes
6:Click "LAUNCH", The files should be patched and will say "patched successfully" for each one.
7:FINALLY, load the ABGX360 default settings again, (reselect the game iso if needed)
8:Misc tab, make sure "Add if it doesnt exist or isnt valid" is selected for Splitvid
9:Options tab, make sure "Verify if stealth passes" is checked
10:UN-tick any boxes still ticked under "Manually Patch or Extract Files"
11:(the above should really all be enabled as default settings if they are not already. If you had to change to any of them, hold CTRL then press S to save your settings and choose "Default"
12:Click "LAUNCH", If the game now shows SSv2, ALL CRC's Match, and you get Verification Successful at the end of the test, AND it says SPLITVID VALID (or added), YOU NOW HAVE SSv2 and SPLITVID, YOUR GAME MATCHES OUR RETAIL RIP, so you are good to go.
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GeezerJT
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25. February 2010 @ 19:27 |
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Thanks fella much appreciated.
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mX10
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26. February 2010 @ 15:29 |
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Originally posted by sicdude:
Originally posted by GeezerJT:
Hi again i have found the files i need on the abgx site, but how do you actually patch them with abgx?
I have downloaded the ss file click patch with the file and then ran abgx and it still shows up as ss1
sorry for all the questions
Here is a guide on manually patching ssv1 to ssv2 in 12 simple steps
1:Go to _http://abgx360.net/verified.php, use the blue number on the right hand side of your game to obtain an SS and DMI combination (still must match the XEX of your game)
2:Load ABGX360, Go to the "Manually Patch or Extract Files" tab,
3:Tick "Patch even if stealth passes
4:Tick the Patch SS, & Patch DMI, then browse for the files you just downloaded.
5:Go to the options tab and UN-tick "Verify if stealth passes
6:Click "LAUNCH", The files should be patched and will say "patched successfully" for each one.
7:FINALLY, load the ABGX360 default settings again, (reselect the game iso if needed)
8:Misc tab, make sure "Add if it doesnt exist or isnt valid" is selected for Splitvid
9:Options tab, make sure "Verify if stealth passes" is checked
10:UN-tick any boxes still ticked under "Manually Patch or Extract Files"
11:(the above should really all be enabled as default settings if they are not already. If you had to change to any of them, hold CTRL then press S to save your settings and choose "Default"
12:Click "LAUNCH", If the game now shows SSv2, ALL CRC's Match, and you get Verification Successful at the end of the test, AND it says SPLITVID VALID (or added), YOU NOW HAVE SSv2 and SPLITVID, YOUR GAME MATCHES OUR RETAIL RIP, so you are good to go.
Sticky that and the C4EVA convo for these guys :P
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