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Lawyer: Joel Tenenbaum only caused $21 in damages by sharing music
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article published on 21 February, 2010
Charles Nesson, William F. Weld Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, who defends Joel Tenenbaum in his dispute with record labels, said that Joel has only caused $21 worth of damages from his activities. Tenenbaum was told to pay $675,000 in damages to record companies for downloading and sharing 30 songs using the Kazaa software. Nesson has described the damages as "monstrous and shocking."
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Hopium
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21. February 2010 @ 07:55 |
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1 word lots of syllables:
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21. February 2010 @ 10:09 |
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With no profit motive on Tenenbaum's end they can not make this into a commercial crime. Should be interesting to see if this ends with the 21$ fine.
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21. February 2010 @ 10:55 |
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"For additional absurdity, imagine further that the industry actually got judgments of $18 million in damages from roughly 30,000 teenagers, which is approximately the number of lawsuits they filed against consumers until the end of 2008. That would mean they had outstanding judgments for $540 billion dollars?or more than the total revenue the recording industry can expect to earn in about 50 years at its current size of $11 billion per year."
Love that someone FINALLY pointed this out!
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21. February 2010 @ 13:06 |
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The problem is the copyright law itself. Until it is rewritten, or declared unconstitutional and abolished, the absurd fines will be allowed to continue.
Just for fun though, let's say that they end up adding some sort of "damages" to the $21. Even if they were allowed to have 500% damages on the downloads this would net the record industry $105.
In that case it would cost them more money to send you an email (or hire someone to send one for them) saying "You were caught sharing music" then to just take the hit.
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21. February 2010 @ 14:13 |
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Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
The problem is the copyright law itself. Until it is rewritten, or declared unconstitutional and abolished, the absurd fines will be allowed to continue.
Just for fun though, let's say that they end up adding some sort of "damages" to the $21. Even if they were allowed to have 500% damages on the downloads this would net the record industry $105.
In that case it would cost them more money to send you an email (or hire someone to send one for them) saying "You were caught sharing music" then to just take the hit.
Ya it needs to be tweaked, pump up fair use to differentiate profit/attempts at profit and whats done not for profit of any kind, add in copy protection circumvention on software and hardware as long as it dose not violate patents/code copy rights,ect(basically selling a rom or bios with a device you made or copying the hardware redoing it and selling it under your own brand). Its not that hard to make it so you don't need a lawyer to have functional fair use rights but some people seem to think it can not function unless the courts and lawyers have a say in it....
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22. February 2010 @ 18:37 |
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Go Harvard lawyer!!!!
I agree. The price to be paid should be a multiple of the amount infringed upon. I'm thinking maybe.............3 times the amount that he took from the company at best so 63 bucks.
What a scam. Though.............I gotta say.........WHAT A NINNY for using Kazaa. That was a nasty program from the start and turned nastier shortly thereafter. I stopped using that like 10 years ago.
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