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Ubisoft defends 'Assassin's Creed 2' DRM
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 22 February, 2010
Last week we reported that Ubisoft's new Assassin's Creed 2 for PC was given DRM that requires a constant Internet connection for the game to work. If your Internet drops for any reason, you are kicked from the game, losing all progress you have made since the last save.
Ubisoft has defended their actions today, via an interview with CVG.
The full interview (definitely worth reading ... [ read the full article ]
Please read the original article before posting your comments.
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theskydiv
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24. February 2010 @ 20:52 |
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Originally posted by B33rdrnkr:
What about for ps3?
The PS3 and 360 will not have these problems considering the fact that Live is the 360's main feature and the PS3 currently cannot run pirated material.
They can't? Bold statement. My cousins is hacked to all end with 100s of games. As a sidenote each one of those 100 games would not have ever been purchased by him nor his parents...just saying not justifiying.
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24. February 2010 @ 22:27 |
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Originally posted by B33rdrnkr:
What about for ps3?
The PS3 and 360 will not have these problems considering the fact that Live is the 360's main feature and the PS3 currently cannot run pirated material.
They can't? Bold statement. My cousins is hacked to all end with 100s of games. As a sidenote each one of those 100 games would not have ever been purchased by him nor his parents...just saying not justifiying.
He should have been more clear...cannot run pirated PS3 material. It can of course run NES with ROMS.
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ntense69
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25. February 2010 @ 00:29 |
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so what this says to me is they dont want customers unless you have internet so in turn they are loosing profit for customers who dont have net but do game or hell for that matter dont have high speed net
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25. February 2010 @ 06:53 |
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I am surprised nobody has mentioned this yet, but you will be screwed if your ISP has a bandwidth limit. It would suck to try to go online one day for work to find out you can't because your kid used all your bandwidth playing a single player game. Granted it would take a while (hopefully) to use even 1GB from how they will have it implemented, but still, the option is there, and if you go over...
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mrD
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25. February 2010 @ 08:31 |
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So if I'm now in a hotel that wants to charge £5 to £9 a day for internet to keep me or the kids happy playing a game I have already forked out for I think not
BOYCOTT THIS PRODUCT
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IguanaC64
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25. February 2010 @ 09:55 |
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Development houses and publishers go out of business all the time. Sure, Ubisoft has been around for a while, but that's no guarantee I'll be able to play the game I paid for in a year. Usually when companies go out of business, they barely tie up the loose ends and end up dropping the ball on a lot of stuff. Patching everyone's game on the way to bankruptcy court is probably low on the priority list. Heck...even look at Halo2 for the XBox. It seems like it would take very little extra effort to keep a very popular game like Halo2 running. They're canning the ability play it online (which is the main appeal of the game) and they're not even going out of business.
I'm the type that likes to replay certain games, so I'll be skipping games with this kind of DRM. It's not worth the stress when the company burns you.
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phenson
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25. February 2010 @ 10:49 |
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I just love how these gaming companies talk about how "huge" the "piracy problem" is and how much they have been hurt by it. Well, it's not obvious to me at all how they have been hurt by it. I wish that people would just opt not to pay money to be treated like this. This whole DRM thing would disappear overnight if folks did not pay to participate. Sure, "the plan" is to have these servers up and running from now on, but that isn't going to mean diddly to the folks who fork over all this dough to buy these games only to find them useless because the company no longer find it economically feasible to maintain servers for them or maybe decides that it would be better to charge a monthly fee to participate. Bleah. I say just vote with your dollars and avoid these idiots entirely.
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salsa36
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25. February 2010 @ 11:30 |
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Just don't buy it!!!!!!!
They will get the memo.
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Tarsellis
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25. February 2010 @ 12:45 |
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I will never, EVER, pay for anything Ubisoft. If this is their business model, they don't get my business. There are plenty of other options out there that work without these restrictions. On the amazingly off chance I actually wanted to play one of their games badly enough, I'd buy it second hand after it had been cracked and feed it a the keep alive signal from my own system.
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rick930
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25. February 2010 @ 12:46 |
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I guess when you allegedly lose 1% of billions of dollars every year from piracy that could put a real dent in how much you get to spend on buying lunch. But the reality is that piracy is not the problem, its companies jockeying to find the gaming platform that they believe they can sell the most games for. The problem is that while they pretend to be following the flow of traffic from PC gaming to console gaming, they tend to be months behind that flow of traffic. These days more people would prefer to go back to online PC gaming rather than deal with all the problems that the consoles are experiencing. Console systems are great, if you are totally into single-player gaming, but if you want a true multi-player gaming experience there is nothing better than a PC. You can't upgrade your console to meet your hardware expectations, but you can upgrade your PC, and anyone with half a brain knows that no gaming console will ever match the sheer power and connectability of a PC when it comes to online gaming. One of these days these t00ls at the software companies are going to wake up and realize that the only money they are losing is by continuing to put out great games on worthless console systems that will never meet the expectations of their gaming customers. Piracy isn't the problem, the idiots who think they "know" how we want to game are the problem.
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elitepunk
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25. February 2010 @ 12:56 |
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HACK THE PLANET!!!!!!!!!!!
LETS DO THIS REAL OL SCHOOL LIKE ITS 1994 AGAIN, OW OW OWWWWW!!!!!!
''CRANKS UP THE PRODIGY'S ONE LOVE''
LETS SHOW THEM WHOSE BOSS, THE CUSTOMER, OR THE BIG EVIL COMPANIES LOL!?
WHO WILL BE FIRST, UNLEASHED?, AVENGED?, RAZOR1911?
-PEACE OUT.
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25. February 2010 @ 17:38 |
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Originally posted by elitepunk:
HACK THE PLANET!!!!!!!!!!!
LETS DO THIS REAL OL SCHOOL LIKE ITS 1994 AGAIN, OW OW OWWWWW!!!!!!
''CRANKS UP THE PRODIGY'S ONE LOVE''
LETS SHOW THEM WHOSE BOSS, THE CUSTOMER, OR THE BIG EVIL COMPANIES LOL!?
WHO WILL BE FIRST, UNLEASHED?, AVENGED?, RAZOR1911?
-PEACE OUT.
R4Z0R1911 will be the first. they made one of the most DRMed game of all time work. although Oracle has performed beautifully in this field before
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Seanspade
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26. February 2010 @ 03:02 |
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The really, really good thing, is that teams like the one I'm with not only struggle to remove DRM, and to make games more playable, is that with Ubisoft titles, its going to be MORE FUN to play a pirated game. More people will learn about Piracy from this, and it will benefit everyone.
Would you rather pay for a game, that could screw you? Or PIRATE a game, which is free BTW, and then play it the way it's intended, without an internet connection?
Before, it was more "if you pay for this, you get more than a pirated version, or an actual hard copy" which made some people actually pay. Now, it's about the fact that the paid for game is more of a nuisance than the pirated copy, making the pirated the PREFERABLE one.
I will never buy a Ubisoft title again, and I will be spreading the word.
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bluetac
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26. February 2010 @ 04:21 |
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So ubi has not shed any light on if your pc would need to be left on 24/7/365 for the game to phone home all the time or if it will be say 2-3 times in 24 hours?
personally i am not interested in the game but for those that are what would happen when they go away on holiday?
They may well come back to lost save data for the above games if the game can't phone home.
I for one no longer leave my pc's turned on when they are not in use, a few years ago when the power requirements where a lot lower they were left running, but not any more.
Just a thought is all!
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Seanspade
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26. February 2010 @ 04:59 |
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Originally posted by bluetac:
So ubi has not shed any light on if your pc would need to be left on 24/7/365 for the game to phone home all the time or if it will be say 2-3 times in 24 hours?
personally i am not interested in the game but for those that are what would happen when they go away on holiday?
They may well come back to lost save data for the above games if the game can't phone home.
I for one no longer leave my pc's turned on when they are not in use, a few years ago when the power requirements where a lot lower they were left running, but not any more.
Just a thought is all!
It clearly states that the game must be connected to the internet, when it's in use. If you are currently playing, you need the internet on. Otherwise, no.
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Irocz005
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26. February 2010 @ 07:34 |
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I would think there would be more piracy with movies then video games. I use to be a hardcore gamer but spending $50 or so a game is way to much especially in this economy. People on here brought up many good points. I asked many people at my work who are gamers about this game and they will not be buying it because of the internet connection issue and the cost of the game.
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editmon
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26. February 2010 @ 10:26 |
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"But Ubisoft have the ability to patch the DRM out of their games."
There is the sentence we are looking for.
Boycott the game and make damn sure that your console friends boycott it too or it's a moot point. If the revenue figures fall to low the company has two choices. Remover DRM or leave the business. They will drop PC games unless we get consoles to boycott as well. Remember, we are all in this together. It's us or them. I prefer a game with no DRM in the first place but there are better ways than this gestapo tactic.
They have the right to do what they want with there product. We have the right to decide if it's worth the trouble. After all, gaming is suppose to be about fun not just money.
I added a nice letter you can edit for your use but make sure you send it and sign up your friends too!
Month Date, 2010
Ubisoft Red Storm Entertainment
2000 Centre Greenway
Suite 300
Cary, NC 27513
Dear Sir or Madam:
JUST WANTED TO SEND YOU A NOTE IN RESPONSE TO ?'Assassin's Creed 2' DRM will require constant Internet connection?. This escalation of DRM and the attack on consumers who purchase software is not going unheard. It is your right in a free society to design and sell your wares as you see fit. However when you lack the insight to consider that some people who purchase your product do not have an internet connections or the income to establish a connection just to use your product you are showing your shortsightedness. I live in a rural area where the best you can establish is a 256kb connection on dial-up and satellite is the only other option. Why would I want to spend and additional $120 to $600 a year just to play a game? I know I am part of a very small group of people in this country and that your financial models do not include us and you do not have the desire to even acknowledge we exist but we are here.
This letter is to inform you I had wanted to purchase this game but as DRM is constantly being added in the name of profits and the insanity of lawyers I will not be purchasing your product and for that matter any other that requires internet connection. I have no interest in on-line gaming.
You might consider getting rid of a few of those high dollar legal beagles on your payroll. This would lower your overhead and reduce your cost to distribute something to society that would benefit everyone. Consider it. While I await a reply I will be take my $60 and buy a nice dinner. Maybe while I discuss this with my friends we can establish a dialogue with our congressman.
Sincerely,
Attached you will find additional signatures of people with a displeasure in the abuse of fair use laws.
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Berian
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26. February 2010 @ 13:02 |
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I really don't understand this... I mean, first of all AC2 is one of the fastest selling videogames in history, second does Ubisoft really believe the game is going to take LONG to crack? What the hell it's not magic, it's software! The crack is going to be out in a month if not less! And the money they've spent creating the damn DRM is probably more than they'll loose because of piracy; money they could have spent improving the game. I sure hope AC2 is perfectly bug-free, because I'm spending 90 euros to buy it (special edition) and I've been waiting since November for the PC version (I suspect for no other reason than Nvidia, AC2 sponsor, being late with their new video cards) and I'm not going to accept that my money is being used to create a stupid DRM. And finally, why should those who buy and pay for the game be treated like this? This will not prevent piracy, it will encourage it! And what about those who pay internet by the minute (they are quite a few, at least here in Italy)?? You think they're going to BUY the game and pay every minute of it?? Of course they won't, they're just going to crack it! Bad mistake Ubisoft, you're increasing piracy!
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SoulGLOW
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27. February 2010 @ 11:05 |
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fuq it. thats the last straw for me. I work offshore for long periods but in my free time i game. its either that or punch the clown and i aint doin that on a boat or rig full of guys. Ubi & all the others who are gonna go this route are gonna lose my my business...and alot of others in my field. But guess what? I'm still gonna play. Cuz im gonna do something ive never done. I'm gonna hack the ever lovin sheeit outta their games. We cant get that kind of bandwith offshore to deal with this drm and i dont like this setup anyway. Screw 'em. I will hack chop & slice my way thru their code til i can crap out a drm free game. If i buy a game at a store i OWN A COPY meaning i can do whatever i want with it damn near. You CANNOT come in my house and tell me what i can do with it thats for damn sure. You might as well tell me that i cant use toilet paper to blow my nose. Or that a library cant lend out movies. Well they can get my middle finger.
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SoulGLOW
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27. February 2010 @ 11:19 |
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HA! you what i just realized? This whole system is like that time I had been getting bullied by this kid for months and he backed me into a corner one day & I lashed out and flattened his fat little nose across his face and then he ran bleeding screaming and crying to his mommy and daddy. Pathetic ain't it.
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leglessoz
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28. February 2010 @ 07:00 |
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I don't play many games but Ubisoft has just put me off buying any of their games from now on. They are basically telling me that I can buy their game, install it on my desktop or laptop but that if I were to go to hospital for weeks or months and had no internet access, I won't be able to play the game that I bought a licence to play.
It's like software companies now deciding that they'd like to have the software we buy stored on their servers and we'll access them with thin clients. I want the software I buy to run on my computer any time I want it to, whether or not that computer is connected to the net. People in outback Australia are going to have no chance as their internet access is dodgy at best.
Ubisoft, do the words "Shove it!" mean anything to you?
I say everyone should just boycott this and any other game or piece of software that tries to do the same thing.
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pavelIT
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28. February 2010 @ 07:45 |
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nice...conversation going on...its healthy :)
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1. March 2010 @ 01:06 |
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Well I have absolutely no respect for Ubisoft at all now. I patched my legal copy of Spore with a no-cd crack because I'm not going to carry the stupid disk around in my laptop bag. Why the * would I want to pay for wireless internet or find a hot-spot?! I will not be purchasing any games that implement this in the future.
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OzMozy
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7. March 2010 @ 11:07 |
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Most funny thing about this is that those who DONT have internet usualy buy games becose they cant download them (i dont speak about rare cases)!
And those who buy games will buy them anyway and those who DONT they will not buy it anyway(agein not about rare cases)!
So....
Its stupid
People who buy game are usualy people without internet and like... 38% ppl who have it(like 50-65
% ppl are gamers ) so they are loosing well.. like.. 60% of buyers becose they dont have internet so they buy games becose they dont download games so they buy peace of crap becose they cant use it and of those 38% of internet users who buy games only like... 30% have good internet connection and like 8% dont so they lose alot of customers im sorry ubisoft you are STUPID :D btw AC II is great game i love it :)
Im Always Right
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 7. March 2010 @ 11:46
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divinity1
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11. March 2010 @ 15:46 |
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I have a question that i bay a Assassin's Creed 2 PC game original dvd.
And play the game by using the Ubisoft servers.But after 1 or 3 years
when i wish to play the game again.Can Ubisoft men ten the servers so
long time or not???????????
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