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New Cinavia DRM takes aim at pirates
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 3 March, 2010
FileShareFreak has a very interesting report out today about Cinavia DRM, which is a new audio watermarking technology that takes aim at pirates, and those trying to playback movie downloads via their PlayStation 3s.
The site says the watermarking works by "comparing the source of the audio to the format in which a movie was released (ie theatrical or commercial disc), and if the watermarked ... [ read the full article ]
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ComputerCowboy
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19. February 2011 @ 16:36 |
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Originally posted by asharif:
Good technology IMO, I'm all in favour of something which inconveniences the pikies / thieves...
Of course Sony are going to put some sort of anti-piracy technology into their consoles, when they have a major stake in the film industry!! *rolleyes*
The problem is that it affects consumers not just pirates. Say I want to put my blu-ray on a network server and play it back on a Cinavia enabled player... I own the disc I should be able to play it however I want
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16. March 2011 @ 00:03 |
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Originally posted by tucker001:
Couldn't you just make sure you disconnect from the internet on your ps3 before you try to play whatever file you want to watch?
Doesnt work, it doesnt connect to the internet to check for the watermark. Its a small bit of software that was part of the latest system update 3.60 that checks for it.
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16. March 2011 @ 00:10 |
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Originally posted by Dark Knight 2042:
Originally posted by rollinboy:
anyone confirm that this works...Quote...people with ps3's have you tryed this....I was able to watch it when I used convertxtodvd to burn the video and disconnected the PS3 from the internet. It played it just fine for me.
Last edited by yajdragon79 at 2010-05-20 12:29:12 anyone else with a ps3 who can't usually play this due to the cinavia crap confirm does this actually work ?
**I tried this and it doesnt work
Not a good idea to use burnt media in your ps3 anyway, some recordable dvd brands use cheap dyes which can cause the laser eye to stop working after repeated use. I had 2 ps3's stop reading disks in less than a year. Put your media on a usb flash drive and watch it from there. Been doing that with my 3rd one and no problems in 2.5 years.
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16. March 2011 @ 21:02 |
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it WILL eventually be bypassed in some way. it will just take some time. this will be interesting tho.
If "THEY" can think of a block to put infront of us, there is always someone out there JUST as smart as the creator to uncreate it :D
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2. April 2011 @ 00:22 |
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I used DVDFab to decode a movie only onto a DVD and when I played it on my PS3 I got the Cinavia Message 3 and muted audio. This was on a Netflix rented disc and was "The Tourist". Sucked. Played okay on my pc with VLC.
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cuzz1369
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2. April 2011 @ 13:54 |
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cuzz1369
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2. April 2011 @ 14:11 |
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Cinavia utilizes the audio track at frequencty that cant be heard by the human ear, Isn't there a way to narrow down the audio track so it will not play the frequency containing the cinavia bullcrap. I don't have the computer smarts to do this but someone out there could figure this out.
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2. April 2011 @ 14:16 |
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Originally posted by klonk:
I used DVDFab to decode a movie only onto a DVD and when I played it on my PS3 I got the Cinavia Message 3 and muted audio. This was on a Netflix rented disc and was "The Tourist". Sucked. Played okay on my pc with VLC.
Now THAT is very interesting...hadn't heard of it being made available on retail discs...
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2. April 2011 @ 16:40 |
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5. April 2011 @ 16:18 |
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Originally posted by hawk188:
Hey people-
FYI if you downgrade your PS3 to V3.01 and below, (i downgraded at 3.01) the bastard C*****via is not on that firware. I've tested with Karate Kid and Resiednt Evil After Life ( Bluray rips ) and 100% working. BTW - I have a fat Ps3 and using JBreak......
Hope this helps
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How do you downgrade PS3 to a previous firmware version?
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5. April 2011 @ 16:38 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Originally posted by klonk:
I used DVDFab to decode a movie only onto a DVD and when I played it on my PS3 I got the Cinavia Message 3 and muted audio. This was on a Netflix rented disc and was "The Tourist". Sucked. Played okay on my pc with VLC.
Now THAT is very interesting...hadn't heard of it being made available on retail discs...
piracy talk edited by ddp
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5. April 2011 @ 17:07 |
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klonk, what you are talking about is piracy which is not condoned on this site, post edited.
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6. April 2011 @ 20:57 |
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10. April 2011 @ 10:47 |
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wouldn't the easiest way to get past this mess be to find the Cinavia code in the PS3 firmware and write a patch to the PS3 update file to disable it? PS3 has to ALWAYS allow an update, right?
come on all you coders out there, help us out! pleeeeease :)
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10. April 2011 @ 10:47 |
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they say that Cinavia garbage plays at multiple (inaudible) frequencies, which is why it doesn't get removed after re-encoding.
wouldn't the easiest way to get past this mess be to find the Cinavia code in the PS3 firmware and write a patch to the PS3 update file to disable it? PS3 has to ALWAYS allow an update, right?
according to Wikipedia, the Cinavia was added in PS3 update 3.10, so anything before that should be Cinavia-free :)
come on all you coders out there, help us out! pleeeeease :)
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17. April 2011 @ 21:51 |
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Originally posted by Karshnern1:
What About Using CopALL 700 It Will Copy Any Thing Costs $118.00
i believe that defeats the purpose of copying them...plus, does it even work against Cinavia?
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22. April 2011 @ 19:35 |
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seconded, though i won't be SELLING poor PS3, just rolling him back to before the Cinavia nightmare. it not his fault his creators overstepped their bounds (and without EITHER of our permission, no less).
you know, i find it funny that Sony warned users when they would no longer be able to install Linux, etc., but NOT about this bull$#!+ "update"/downgrade.
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30. April 2011 @ 13:02 |
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Originally posted by teikyo30:
Why would anyone stream from a media server to ps3 then to the tv? That makes zero sense to me. Why not just connect directly to the tv via hdmi? Or get a tv with a usb port that accepts video? My Philips plays H.264 and Divx via the USB port. I have my 500 gig external plugged into it. When I have more money for a media server I'll probably have that plugged into it. And, yes, I will get a PS3 and plug that into it, but I won't stream from media server to ps3 to tv.
To do it all wireless without burning discs.
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11. May 2011 @ 00:30 |
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seconded. did the same thing to MY original PS3, dangit!
that IS the main reason for firmware: to add new "features", and since they are bound to put this new Cinavia crap on all BR players...unless Samsung is a particularly NICE evil corporation (though they DO have some of the nicest TVs around).
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