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360 freezing and rrod after heat fix
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dalecore
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8. March 2010 @ 18:30 |
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I didn't want to triple post off of wooly's post. The heat gun fix is taking off rrod but its not staying. Once I start playing a game after a few minutes it freezes. I then restart it and it goes back to the rrod. I've changed the washer which has done nothing to change the outcome of the problem. The only thing I have not done was the bake and its because I don't have an oven. I have a toaster oven but it doesn't have a temp setting of 170. If I do the bake is it going to make a difference? Is there something else I might not be doing?
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ppedro
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8. March 2010 @ 18:59 |
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The freezing can be caused by the motherboard warping resulting in breaking the solder connections. Even after using the heat gun, it won't fix it if the board is still bending.
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dalecore
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8. March 2010 @ 20:45 |
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I used flathead screws so I can't see how my board is bending. I don't have to force the board down in order to put any of external components into the board. So what else can be bending the board and why would it break the solder so fast.
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9. March 2010 @ 06:02 |
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Try using some liquid flux under the GPU & CPU, works a treat!
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dalecore
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9. March 2010 @ 12:29 |
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Will I still have to do the heat gun again before using the liquid flux?
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9. March 2010 @ 12:39 |
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You use the heatgun after using the flux. It helps your solder seal back together. Make sure you get a "no clean" liquid that's made for lead free solders. There's a good video on youtube on how to apply it.
In my thread you mentioned there was some thick rubber thing on your x-clamp...did you ever try the x-clamp with nylon only?
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9. March 2010 @ 12:41 |
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It's not working because a heatgun is not a perm fix. You'll probably have to keep doing this if the board is shot. Heatgun fixes never last. Just send it to Microsoft and get it fixed properly.
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9. March 2010 @ 14:26 |
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Yes and since it's out of warranty he'll pay over $100 and microsoft will replace the x-clamp and so he'll have the same issue again. There's been plenty of people that have had lasting/permanent results with the heatgun fix
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dalecore
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10. March 2010 @ 00:24 |
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Originally posted by w00ly:
You use the heatgun after using the flux. It helps your solder seal back together. Make sure you get a "no clean" liquid that's made for lead free solders. There's a good video on youtube on how to apply it.
In my thread you mentioned there was some thick rubber thing on your x-clamp...did you ever try the x-clamp with nylon only?
Yeah I did change it out with nylon washers putting two sets underneath the GPU and CPU and one set under the MOBO.
Originally posted by ModKing30:
It's not working because a heatgun is not a perm fix. You'll probably have to keep doing this if the board is shot. Heatgun fixes never last. Just send it to Microsoft and get it fixed properly.
I agree with Wooly I don't have a $100 dollars to send to microsoft my friend has sent his in for red ring before and he only had it 3 months or so before it went right back to rrod. Besides that I can go to Game Stop and get a refurbished machine for $120
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10. March 2010 @ 03:38 |
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Originally posted by w00ly:
Yes and since it's out of warranty he'll pay over $100 and microsoft will replace the x-clamp and so he'll have the same issue again. There's been plenty of people that have had lasting/permanent results with the heatgun fix
Including me with about 20-30 fixes so far, 7 in progress and no returns ever. The results speak for them self!
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dalecore
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17. March 2010 @ 09:36 |
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Well I haven't completely given up on this xbox but it looks like I'll be giving the last rights pretty soon. I added the liquid flux and did the heat gun the minute I turned it on straight to rrod with nothing no fan or anything starting to run then it started to just cut off after a few seconds. I looked and noticed the power block was showing red. Had to plug it out to get it back to orange and the minute I plugged it back into the xbox it turned red. Besides the liquid flux I've done nothing different.
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17. March 2010 @ 11:13 |
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Originally posted by dalecore:
Well I haven't completely given up on this xbox but it looks like I'll be giving the last rights pretty soon. I added the liquid flux and did the heat gun the minute I turned it on straight to rrod with nothing no fan or anything starting to run then it started to just cut off after a few seconds. I looked and noticed the power block was showing red. Had to plug it out to get it back to orange and the minute I plugged it back into the xbox it turned red. Besides the liquid flux I've done nothing different.
Looks like you have gone to hot with the heat gun and melted the tracks. Red light normally indicates a short circuit. Are you starting the mobo in or out of the shell?
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dalecore
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17. March 2010 @ 11:29 |
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Originally posted by miketrev:
Looks like you have gone to hot with the heat gun and melted the tracks. Red light normally indicates a short circuit. Are you starting the mobo in or out of the shell?
It was inside the shell
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17. March 2010 @ 16:36 |
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Originally posted by miketrev:
Originally posted by w00ly:
Yes and since it's out of warranty he'll pay over $100 and microsoft will replace the x-clamp and so he'll have the same issue again. There's been plenty of people that have had lasting/permanent results with the heatgun fix
Including me with about 20-30 fixes so far, 7 in progress and no returns ever. The results speak for them self!
Same situation here. using W00ly's method, I've repaired 10 boxes for close friends and coworkers. Only 1 person told me (today actually) they received an E74 error after about a month. On the day it happened, the Xbox was being used by him and other family members for almost 16 hours straight. Is it the fix or the end user that recreates the error? hmmm. Also I tell them to keep it horizontal, and do not enclose it in a cabinet.
Thanks again W00ly!
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18. March 2010 @ 01:45 |
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Originally posted by dalecore:
Originally posted by miketrev:
Looks like you have gone to hot with the heat gun and melted the tracks. Red light normally indicates a short circuit. Are you starting the mobo in or out of the shell?
It was inside the shell
It does sound like a short somewhere...could be many shorts. Last time I saw one that gave a red light on the power supply and no fans the guy had torqued the x-clamps down ridiculously tight and basically crushed the gpu lol. Either that or perhaps you've melted something from not moving the heatgun as miketrev said. Either way not likely fixable.
Originally posted by pumpduptr:
Originally posted by miketrev:
Including me with about 20-30 fixes so far, 7 in progress and no returns ever. The results speak for them self!
Same situation here. using W00ly's method, I've repaired 10 boxes for close friends and coworkers. Only 1 person told me (today actually) they received an E74 error after about a month. On the day it happened, the Xbox was being used by him and other family members for almost 16 hours straight. Is it the fix or the end user that recreates the error? hmmm. Also I tell them to keep it horizontal, and do not enclose it in a cabinet.
Thanks again W00ly!
Thanks for the success stories, there've been a few people that've had some troubles with it (and others like modking that just flat out say it'll never last/work). Good to hear it IS working for some.
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dalecore
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18. March 2010 @ 15:54 |
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I think I might have done it on the over heating. I'm not so good with counting my minutes I basically used something to alarm me for instance I'd start at 4:18 I just did a regular count and came up with 21. After thinking about it I said to myself that can't be right and so I decided to go for another minute I always did it the right way never held anything for to long in one place. I also did it on the lower heating for a few seconds.
I'm wondering how much the flux can effect the board I noticed that a small portion of it was still on the board and by this time it had hardened. I just used some tissue to take the remains of it off but don't know how much of it I cleaned. Can the Flux cause that to happen?
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