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Wont let me burn 360 games
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sk8r4eva
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3. April 2010 @ 15:52 |
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I 14:49:49 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.0 started!
I 14:49:49 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition (6.0, Build 6002 : Service Pack 2)
I 14:49:49 Total Physical Memory: 981,172 KB - Available: 129,784 KB
W 14:49:49 Duplex Secure's SPTD driver can have a detrimental effect on drive performance.
I 14:49:50 Initialising SPTI...
I 14:49:50 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 14:49:50 -> Drive 1 - Info: Slimtype DVD A DS8A1P CH71 (E:) (ATA)
I 14:49:50 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 14:49:58 Operation Started!
I 14:49:58 Source File: C:\Users\Branden\Downloads\Army.of.Two.The.40th.Day.XBOX360.Region.Free\A240DAYS\A240DAYS\A2T40DAY.iso
I 14:49:58 Source File Sectors: 3,827,488 (MODE1/2048)
I 14:49:58 Source File Size: 7,838,695,424 bytes
I 14:49:58 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM
I 14:49:58 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ec67c000MS UDFBridge
I 14:49:58 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)
I 14:49:58 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF
I 14:49:58 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)
I 14:49:58 Destination Device: [0:0:0] Slimtype DVD A DS8A1P CH71 (E:) (ATA)
I 14:49:58 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MBIPG101-R10-65) (Speeds: 2.4x)
I 14:49:58 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 14:49:58 Write Mode: DVD
I 14:49:58 Write Type: DAO
I 14:49:58 Write Speed: 2.4x
I 14:49:58 Link Size: Auto
I 14:49:58 Lock Volume: Yes
I 14:49:58 Test Mode: No
I 14:49:58 OPC: No
I 14:49:58 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 14:49:58 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x)
I 14:49:58 Book Type Setting: N/A
I 14:49:58 Advanced Settings - Force HT: N/A, Online HT: N/A, OverSpeed: N/A, SmartBurn: Yes
I 14:49:58 User Specified L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760
E 14:50:01 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Failed! - Reason: Write Protected
E 14:50:01 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:02
I have used the same discs before and it worked why wont it work now?
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3. April 2010 @ 18:31 |
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It would be the file i would say at first glance. be sure you have a valid layer break and be 100% sure that the disks are Dual-layer + DVDs. I had a similar problem the first burn and fixed by using a different file and checking the layer break was correct. If any other problems appear let us know.
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sk8r4eva
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3. April 2010 @ 20:29 |
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They are Sony DVD+R DL. I burned some games before with the same kind of discs. I've also tried CloneCD and a different game and still the same thing... The layer break is right and i've also tried the .dvd file that came with the iso's
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3. April 2010 @ 23:11 |
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Originally posted by sk8r4eva:
They are Sony DVD+R DL. I burned some games before with the same kind of discs. I've also tried CloneCD and a different game and still the same thing... The layer break is right and i've also tried the .dvd file that came with the iso's
use the the ISO and tell IMGBURN to put the layer break in with that. also i use verbs but that is only reccomended
Mods are like games.....GO BIG OR GO HOME!!
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sk8r4eva
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4. April 2010 @ 09:55 |
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i have tried it that way, it dont work either... i've used memorex and sony to burn games with no problems before... Any other suggestions?
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4. April 2010 @ 13:07 |
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It's almost certainly down to compatibility issues between the burner and the media. You say that you burned some games before on the same type of discs and they were OK, but do those discs have the same MID (MBIPG101-R10-65)? Just because they are the same brand and the packaging looks the same, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are the same. An update to the burner's firmware may fix this (if you can find one), otherwise try some different discs. With that drive I would suggest using Verbatim MKM-001-00, the 2.4X rated ones.
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Paula_X
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4. April 2010 @ 13:37 |
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looks like a crappy oem laptop burner to me.. which has now crapped out after burning a few totally shit memosux disks.
we don't tell people to pay premium for verbs for the good of our health y'know. In the long run they work out cheaper than "budget" garbage in both lack of coasters and damage and wear and tear on hardware.
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sk8r4eva
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4. April 2010 @ 14:39 |
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yea idk i have an external hp burner dvd555s but for some reason it dont read a disc when i put it in there... My other burner burns CDs and DVDs just fine but wont burn these DVD+R DLs. My firmware is updated to CH71 and says there is no new updates. I guess there is nothing else i can do but try different discs right?
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4. April 2010 @ 15:09 |
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Originally posted by sk8r4eva:
They are Sony DVD+R DL. I burned some games before with the same kind of discs. I've also tried CloneCD and a different game and still the same thing... The layer break is right and i've also tried the .dvd file that came with the iso's
Originally posted by funksoulb:
You say that you burned some games before on the same type of discs and they were OK, but do those discs have the same MID (MBIPG101-R10-65)? Just because they are the same brand and the packaging looks the same, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are the same.
Yep, funksoulb is correct. This is what we tell people over and over and over. Just because "Brand X" worked for you before, doesn't mean it'll always work. If the disc ID is different, then it's a different disc altogether, regardless of having the same brand stamped on them. That means it was made by another manufacturer and/or by a different set of standards, making it a different disc.
Example: If Memorex cuts a deal with Ricoh to make DVD+R DLs for them at 40 cents apiece, they go with it. But a few months later Panasonic agrees to make those DVD+R DLs for 35 cents each, Memorex has to go with because it saves themselves millions of dollars (good business). So the 50-pack of Memorex (by Ricoh) you bought months ago work flawlessly (not a single coaster). But the new 50-pack of Memorex (by Panasonic) from the same store, with the same logo, with the same UPC bar code, is giving you problems. That's the reason, they look the same but they're not.
(Although I'm sure there are a few others), the only disc that I know of, that is ALWAYS made the exact same EVERY time is "Disc ID: MKM-001-00" which is a Verbatim made in Singapore. With this being said, If your Xbox 360 reads the MKM-001-00, then every time you buy them you know your console will read them (unless your console has a problem itself) because the discs are always identical. Other brands are not always identical. This is the reason Singapore Verbatims are always suggested/recommended.
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sk8r4eva
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4. April 2010 @ 16:17 |
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you must have to order the Verbatims online? These sony ones were the only brand of DVD+R DLs at the store i went to. Other stores i have been to dont have a very good selection either.
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sk8r4eva
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4. April 2010 @ 16:23 |
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they are 2 different disc's.... i just put in one of the games i burned before and it said RITEK-D01-01
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4. April 2010 @ 22:46 |
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The memorex disks are not bad disks what so ever the only problem is the variations are hard on your drive. But i will say that i have only had very little trouble out of my verbs and that is only because of the burner being stupid. my laptop has a better one that i use to make all my burns now. It may be the drive i would suggest trying a friends laptop or a new burner and also i like IMGburn alot better than most. Or you could try some of the progams that automatically put the layer break in for you but i like to know what i put in instead....
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5. April 2010 @ 17:56 |
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Originally posted by Demon323:
The memorex disks are not bad disks what so ever the only problem is the variations are hard on your drive.
Correct. This is what makes them "bad" (for the 360 that is). They are more than sufficient for PC data, burning movies, etc, but the fluctuation in the discs specs is hell on a 360.
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6. April 2010 @ 02:29 |
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Originally posted by eebeejay:
Originally posted by Demon323:
The memorex disks are not bad disks what so ever the only problem is the variations are hard on your drive.
Correct. This is what makes them "bad" (for the 360 that is). They are more than sufficient for PC data, burning movies, etc, but the fluctuation in the discs specs is hell on a 360.
I won't argue the fact they are not the better media but i repeat that you don't NEED Verbs to burn...only a recommendation.
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6. April 2010 @ 11:15 |
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Originally posted by Demon323:
Originally posted by eebeejay:
Originally posted by Demon323:
The memorex disks are not bad disks what so ever the only problem is the variations are hard on your drive.
Correct. This is what makes them "bad" (for the 360 that is). They are more than sufficient for PC data, burning movies, etc, but the fluctuation in the discs specs is hell on a 360.
I won't argue the fact they are not the better media but i repeat that you don't NEED Verbs to burn...only a recommendation.
Exactly. Which is why we recommend them.
Here's the thing: Someone is brand new to 360 modding. It's best to point that person in the direction of the fewest problems, and that includes Verbatims, connectivity kits, etc, as recommendations. Matter of fact I don't think I ever seen any of the "big boys" on this site say Verbs are needed. They always say "Give Verbs a try", "Probably crappy media", "Memorex sucks" which are all recommendations for better media.
Here is a common scenario:
NoobieJoe seeks flashing/burning advice.
He is advised to burn to Verbatim.
Flashes his 360 successfully.
Chooses Memorex over Verbatim because they are 9 dollars cheaper.
Has success with Memorex and plays Modern Warfare 2 all night long.
Comes back to forum saying "Verbs are not necessary, use Memorex".
Comes on again down the line asking how to do a pot/cal or laser replacement.
Happens all the time.
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6. April 2010 @ 12:02 |
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Originally posted by eebeejay:
Originally posted by Demon323:
Originally posted by eebeejay:
Originally posted by Demon323:
The memorex disks are not bad disks what so ever the only problem is the variations are hard on your drive.
Correct. This is what makes them "bad" (for the 360 that is). They are more than sufficient for PC data, burning movies, etc, but the fluctuation in the discs specs is hell on a 360.
I won't argue the fact they are not the better media but i repeat that you don't NEED Verbs to burn...only a recommendation.
Exactly. Which is why we recommend them.
Here's the thing: Someone is brand new to 360 modding. It's best to point that person in the direction of the fewest problems, and that includes Verbatims, connectivity kits, etc, as recommendations. Matter of fact I don't think I ever seen any of the "big boys" on this site say Verbs are needed. They always say "Give Verbs a try", "Probably crappy media", "Memorex sucks" which are all recommendations for better media.
Here is a common scenario:
NoobieJoe seeks flashing/burning advice.
He is advised to burn to Verbatim.
Flashes his 360 successfully.
Chooses Memorex over Verbatim because they are 9 dollars cheaper.
Has success with Memorex and plays Modern Warfare 2 all night long.
Comes back to forum saying "Verbs are not necessary, use Memorex".
Comes on again down the line asking how to do a pot/cal or laser replacement.
Happens all the time.
The use of Memorex can cause the laser to weaken just as the use of verbs will that depends on many many factors. But YES! there have been many SR members and newbies alike say that only verbatims will work. Just because they are better media does not mean they will not hurt your laser. The first suggestion for a bad burn or errors in burning should not be media because any WILL work. look further than media into the burner or even the computer itself. Also into the .ISO. Friend of mine use memorex because verbatims would not read in his burner on his new laptop. I have also seen the exact opposite...
Mods are like games.....GO BIG OR GO HOME!!
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6. April 2010 @ 14:12 |
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Originally posted by Demon323:
The first suggestion for a bad burn or errors in burning should not be media because any WILL work.
If it's not the 1st suggestion then it should be the 2nd, right up there with incorrect layerbreaks.
Faulty media: very common
Incorrect layerbreak: very very common
Bad Burner: not as common, not usually the case
PC: Happens, but is rare
Originally posted by Demon323:
Friend of mine use memorex because verbatims would not read in his burner on his new laptop. I have also seen the exact opposite...
So very true. And there have been many more variants to this.
Originally posted by Demon323:
Just because they are better media does not mean they will not hurt your laser.
That goes without saying. Hell, ANY recordable media strains the laser more than OEM retail discs. But nobody mods their 360 just to continue playing retail discs. They mod it to play backups, and if you are gonna play backups you gotta (unless JTAGed) put it on recordable media, and if you put it on recordable media you should use the recordable media that causes the LEAST stress and best consistency, and that low stress/high consistency media is Verbatims made in Singapore.
I'm the first to open my mouth (uh, keyboard) about the fact that all brands work, but why to choose Verbs. And not being able to use Verbs because of price is a bullshot excuse for anyone to use because IF you have a 360, you are gonna purchase at least two games in your lifetime, and 3-4 packs of Verbatims can be bought with that money. so to hell with the notion that Verbs are too expensive. People should pony up and buy Verbs because they alleviate a LOT of problems.
No I do not work for Verbatim. I work for a company that's affiliated with Sony (who has crap-ass +DLs)
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6. April 2010 @ 16:00 |
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i have seen many cases of burners not wanting to burn with the set layer break it depends on model and type of media would be my first guess. If some one has DL media no matter what brand it should be checked in a bit of order
Layerbreak (this happens to many times in one spindle of +DLs)
.ISO (be sure you have a good .ISO, ABGX it twice to be 100%)
Burning program (IMGburn is good)
Burner (Try another PC'burner, laptops have a better chance.)
MEDIA (Verbs, Memorex,....)
PC (can be included in the burner step.)
They already bought the media so the jig is up there wasting a few more disks to make sure you got it right when you get a better media or at least another media to test makes sure you don't burn the higher quality disks into coaster.
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6. April 2010 @ 17:03 |
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Verbatim MKM-001-00 (2.4X rated) and MKM-003-00 (8X rated) are the best discs to use IMO. Other discs may work fine, but the majority of the time when people are asking why their burned discs don't work, you nearly always look at the ImgBurn log and see cheap media being used. The same on Newzbin and other sites, where people post to say a game doesn't work at all, yet it works fine for me. As soon as you ask what discs they're using, it's always cheapo ones. Nobody is saying you HAVE to use them and if cheaper ones work for you then that's cool, but if you posted that log on the official ImgBurn forums, the first thing the creator of ImgBurn would say is "try Verbatims" and that's because they are quality discs that are consistent from batch to batch.
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6. April 2010 @ 18:54 |
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Originally posted by funksoulb:
but the majority of the time when people are asking why their burned discs don't work, you nearly always look at the ImgBurn log and see cheap media being used.
Originally posted by funksoulb:
As soon as you ask what discs they're using, it's always cheapo ones.
That's what I've been saying. More times than not it's cheap media. And more times than the rest it's layerbreak issues.
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