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Court rules FCC has no authority to enforce net neutrality
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article published on 7 April, 2010
The US Court Of Appeals For The District Of Columbia has ruled that the FCC lacks the authority to enforce network neutrality rules for broadband internet providers.
The ruling came in Comcast's appeal of the that agency's 2008 ruling on the cable giant's practice of throttling P2P traffic.
Although the court's decision means the FCC doesn't have the authority to punish Comcast for ... [ read the full article ]
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13. April 2010 @ 10:37 |
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Originally posted by ChappyTTV:
Thanx vurbal...you saved me the time to type a response to that garbage..;)
This is not the end of the FCC's attempt to maintain NN, it's simply a fact that they didn't have the proper authority to do this under it's current op agenda. How long do you think it will take before such authority is granted to them?
Not long hopefully (even tho I'm in Canada and any ruling there is inconsequential), but throttling is happening here too and we're going thru the same issues of NN as everyone else is. ALL CONTENT IS EQUAL!! Let's keep it that way. NN MUST be maintained
They have the authority but what I m haring from people with more brains than I the FCC screwed up their case but arguing it poorly.
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14. April 2010 @ 18:08 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by ChappyTTV:
Thanx vurbal...you saved me the time to type a response to that garbage..;)
This is not the end of the FCC's attempt to maintain NN, it's simply a fact that they didn't have the proper authority to do this under it's current op agenda. How long do you think it will take before such authority is granted to them?
Not long hopefully (even tho I'm in Canada and any ruling there is inconsequential), but throttling is happening here too and we're going thru the same issues of NN as everyone else is. ALL CONTENT IS EQUAL!! Let's keep it that way. NN MUST be maintained
They have the authority but what I m haring from people with more brains than I the FCC screwed up their case but arguing it poorly.
Hi Zippy
The original article I read on this at NYT said that the courts determined this action by the FCC was outside of their current jurisdiction, I'll link the articles for you.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/technology/07net.html?th&emc=th
That's the original one, and this is an OP-ED published afterwards.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/11/opinio....html?th&emc=th
Granted Zippy, I can't say exactly how good, or bad, the FCC lawyers did at arguing their case, it still would seem that at the heart of the matter is just exactly what their jurisdiction in this case really is. This is still a (relatively) new avenue for the FCC, and the overseer's of the FCC policy didn't envision this type of communications avenue at the time.
But I really doubt it will stay this way for long. I can't see your congress not granting them (FCC) the power to ensure neutrality, as this is fast becoming one of the big issues in our wired world today.
Later Zipster!
EDIT - At the time I posted, I hadn't yet read the op-ed article completely Zippy. It would seem now that it's simply a "labelling" issue, and it is under the FCC's authority to change that label back so that it can have proper authority again. I think we ALL agree that it's completely in our best interests that this be done ASAP, and that providers be forced to treat all data streams as equal. Without this equality, we're at the mercy of whatever the providers decide they don't like, or doesn't provide them with a bigger balance sheet.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. April 2010 @ 18:21
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14. April 2010 @ 18:16 |
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Originally posted by ChappyTTV:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by ChappyTTV:
Thanx vurbal...you saved me the time to type a response to that garbage..;)
This is not the end of the FCC's attempt to maintain NN, it's simply a fact that they didn't have the proper authority to do this under it's current op agenda. How long do you think it will take before such authority is granted to them?
Not long hopefully (even tho I'm in Canada and any ruling there is inconsequential), but throttling is happening here too and we're going thru the same issues of NN as everyone else is. ALL CONTENT IS EQUAL!! Let's keep it that way. NN MUST be maintained
They have the authority but what I m haring from people with more brains than I the FCC screwed up their case but arguing it poorly.
Hi Zippy
The original article I read on this at NYT said that the courts determined this action by the FCC was outside of their current jurisdiction, I'll link the articles for you.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/technology/07net.html?th&emc=th
That's the original one, and this is an OP-ED published afterwards.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/11/opinio....html?th&emc=th
Granted Zippy, I can't say exactly how good, or bad, the FCC lawyers did at arguing their case, it still would seem that at the heart of the matter is just exactly what their jurisdiction in this case really is. This is still a (relatively) new avenue for the FCC, and the overseer's of the FCC policy didn't envision this type of communications avenue at the time.
But I really doubt it will stay this way for long. I can't see your congress not granting them (FCC) the power to ensure neutrality, as this is fast becoming one of the big issues in our wired world today.
Later Zipster!
Well a couple lawyer acquaintances basically said the FCC handled themselves poorly did not bring out the right information tried to use the wrong statue,ect,ect,ect.
The internet is the same as telecommunications for the most part there dose need to be some updates to it(common carrier I believe allows for network management. the trouble is this allows them to slow down certain parts of the net or online applications). But for the most part it is a premium broadcast that the FCC dose have power over, it just needs to be refined some to allow for better more consumer friendly ISP regs.
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14. April 2010 @ 18:33 |
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I posted an edit Zippy, thought I'd post this just to make sure you get a chance to see it.
I agree dude, there needs refinement to the system, and I can totally see those lawyers baffooning the thing up..;)
We're going thru this same crap here in Canada too, Rogers and Bell were caught throttling BiTtorrent streams with protocol mapping. Once they start this crap, there's no end to how far they could take it, and that's why we need the regulators to step in and tell them to stop.
If it ever came down to where my ISP could basically tell me what sites I can access and what I can't, that's the day I burn my computer and tell them to go F-off.
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14. April 2010 @ 18:43 |
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Originally posted by ChappyTTV:
I posted an edit Zippy, thought I'd post this just to make sure you get a chance to see it.
I agree dude, there needs refinement to the system, and I can totally see those lawyers baffooning the thing up..;)
We're going thru this same crap here in Canada too, Rogers and Bell were caught throttling BiTtorrent streams with protocol mapping. Once they start this crap, there's no end to how far they could take it, and that's why we need the regulators to step in and tell them to stop.
If it ever came down to where my ISP could basically tell me what sites I can access and what I can't, that's the day I burn my computer and tell them to go F-off.
Ya corporations are mini governments within governments that tend to subvert the public's law and rights in order to grow their bottom line when its alredy fat enough.
We need to start raining in corporations, tax them for offshreing,tax them harder for paying CEOs to much,tax them more for not linking the lowest paid worker to the highest paid worker. A countries independence and sovereignty(he right to do as a country as the people mostly see fit) is at stake when you allow corporate to run amok..... we saw it with the banking system and the media system is getting their.....only they will fck over the populaces rights and freedoms more and more. Even if Canada is not perfect as a US citizen its making more sense than our crack ass money addicted political system........
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14. April 2010 @ 19:06 |
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LOL!!!
Well said Zipper...well said, I salute you.
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