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Personal info is embedded in non-DRM tracks from Apple, others

article published on 7 April, 2010

Techcrunch has a very interesting article today that speaks about "new DRM," the embedding of personal info into tracks purchased from major retailers such Apple and Wal-Mart. Here is their post from an anonymous music industry 'insider': Hidden in purchased music files from popular stores such as Apple and Walmart is information to identify the buyer and/or the transaction. You ... [ read the full article ]

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slickwill
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7. April 2010 @ 23:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is pretty much like tracking anything you buy, and using it as a basis to obtain proof to legally persecute a customer in case they share the file.
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8. April 2010 @ 00:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds like it is not safe to buy music...better pirate it instead.
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8. April 2010 @ 00:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lol killerbug :)
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8. April 2010 @ 00:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Simple...DON'T SHARE YOUR PURCHASED MUSIC, IDIOTS! Oh no! I have files on my drive that might identify me??? No sh*t, Sherlock!!! More tinfoil hat dweeb nonsense!
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8. April 2010 @ 02:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
its Simple...RIP THIS SHIT OUT ITS AGAINST THE LAW,MORONS! See i can shout too. Xnon you dont sound like the dumb type please say you don't support this obvious illegal DRM.
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8. April 2010 @ 03:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
estimated time to cracking??? 4.3 seconds...
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8. April 2010 @ 04:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Sounds like it is not safe to buy music...better pirate it instead.
already ahead of you :)
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8. April 2010 @ 07:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I gotta say once again kudos to the Conspiracy Theorists this shit is creepy as hell, I have never purchased MP3 files individually online. And now I never will, your not safe even if you do things legally its a catch 22.
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8. April 2010 @ 08:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DXR88:
its Simple...RIP THIS SHIT OUT ITS AGAINST THE LAW,MORONS! See i can shout too. Xnon you dont sound like the dumb type please say you don't support this obvious illegal DRM.
I'm just sick of all the incessant whining about DRM...even when it's hardly invasive. There are many valid arguments against some DRM (e.g. not even being able to convert it to another format for whatever use), but simply having an ID tag on a downloaded file is hardly ANYTHING when it's easily stripped out, yet some feel a need to be a whackjob conspiracy theorist about it.
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8. April 2010 @ 09:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Originally posted by DXR88:
its Simple...RIP THIS SHIT OUT ITS AGAINST THE LAW,MORONS! See i can shout too. Xnon you dont sound like the dumb type please say you don't support this obvious illegal DRM.
I'm just sick of all the incessant whining about DRM...even when it's hardly invasive. There are many valid arguments against some DRM (e.g. not even being able to convert it to another format for whatever use), but simply having an ID tag on a downloaded file is hardly ANYTHING when it's easily stripped out, yet some feel a need to be a whackjob conspiracy theorist about it.
ok smartass,
say you downlaoded a song legally from itunes.you like it so much that you listen to it all day.
then you decide your dad might like it as well so you send him a copy. that copy somehow gets intercepted and youre facing a copyright infringement lawsuit.
sounds far fetched doesnt it? well its the world you live in and its people like you, ignorant farts, that make it possible for policies like these to be issued unhindered by the big corporations.
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8. April 2010 @ 10:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does it retain that data if you reformat it to CDA and re-rip?
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8. April 2010 @ 11:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
its been known for years that this is away for dmr to track music where has everyone been also if you line up 2 or more printers there is a hidden mark telling you which printer was used to print what paper wow its like this stuff needs to said over and over look its easy if you dont want to get caught doing something against the law dont do it other then that your rolling those dice and someday you'll shot crap...wow did you know when you burn a cdc or dvd your info (about the machine like ownership and registration numbers and type of burner gets added to the file... now thats about 15 year old info for you younger people so be carefull...
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8. April 2010 @ 18:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Josipher:
Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Originally posted by DXR88:
its Simple...RIP THIS SHIT OUT ITS AGAINST THE LAW,MORONS! See i can shout too. Xnon you dont sound like the dumb type please say you don't support this obvious illegal DRM.
I'm just sick of all the incessant whining about DRM...even when it's hardly invasive. There are many valid arguments against some DRM (e.g. not even being able to convert it to another format for whatever use), but simply having an ID tag on a downloaded file is hardly ANYTHING when it's easily stripped out, yet some feel a need to be a whackjob conspiracy theorist about it.
ok smartass,
say you downlaoded a song legally from itunes.you like it so much that you listen to it all day.
then you decide your dad might like it as well so you send him a copy. that copy somehow gets intercepted and youre facing a copyright infringement lawsuit.
sounds far fetched doesnt it? well its the world you live in and its people like you, ignorant farts, that make it possible for policies like these to be issued unhindered by the big corporations.
If you want your dad to have it, buy him his own damn copy! Arguing against DRM because you fully intend to 'pirate' is the most ridiculously lame (and truly ignorant) argument. And if you really want to pirate it, convert it to MP3 or otherwise strip out the info. Such LAZY people out there!

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gnovak1
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9. April 2010 @ 13:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Xnon, do you work for the RIAA??
Or maybe Apple?
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9. April 2010 @ 16:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by gnovak1:
Xnon, do you work for the RIAA??
Or maybe Apple?

No. Are you an adult w/o a mental disorder?
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9. April 2010 @ 17:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Seriously...anyone who lives in your house or browses to your unsecured wireless connection (or hell, wireless is pretty easily crackable for the determined) can suck up all your MP3's and share them. Is it going to happen to you? Unlikely. Is it going to happen somewhere? Very likely.

You sound like you live in a situation where nobody else lives at your house or has access to your music/videos/etc. A majority of Americans don't live that way. They don't deserve to be prosecuted because of it.
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13. April 2010 @ 14:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Josipher:
Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Originally posted by DXR88:
its Simple...RIP THIS SHIT OUT ITS AGAINST THE LAW,MORONS! See i can shout too. Xnon you dont sound like the dumb type please say you don't support this obvious illegal DRM.
I'm just sick of all the incessant whining about DRM...even when it's hardly invasive. There are many valid arguments against some DRM (e.g. not even being able to convert it to another format for whatever use), but simply having an ID tag on a downloaded file is hardly ANYTHING when it's easily stripped out, yet some feel a need to be a whackjob conspiracy theorist about it.
ok smartass,
say you downlaoded a song legally from itunes.you like it so much that you listen to it all day.
then you decide your dad might like it as well so you send him a copy. that copy somehow gets intercepted and youre facing a copyright infringement lawsuit.
sounds far fetched doesnt it? well its the world you live in and its people like you, ignorant farts, that make it possible for policies like these to be issued unhindered by the big corporations.
Or how about you backed up the files to your external hard drive and went to the airport. Now they're looking at your files, and since it's not on you're crappod they've decided your distributing the files, and you're screwed all over again.

Face it guys, you're not sovereign Citizens of a state you're slave "citizens" of the corporation dba USA, and not "these united states".
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13. April 2010 @ 19:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Tarsellis:
Originally posted by Josipher:
Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Originally posted by DXR88:
its Simple...RIP THIS SHIT OUT ITS AGAINST THE LAW,MORONS! See i can shout too. Xnon you dont sound like the dumb type please say you don't support this obvious illegal DRM.
I'm just sick of all the incessant whining about DRM...even when it's hardly invasive. There are many valid arguments against some DRM (e.g. not even being able to convert it to another format for whatever use), but simply having an ID tag on a downloaded file is hardly ANYTHING when it's easily stripped out, yet some feel a need to be a whackjob conspiracy theorist about it.
ok smartass,
say you downlaoded a song legally from itunes.you like it so much that you listen to it all day.
then you decide your dad might like it as well so you send him a copy. that copy somehow gets intercepted and youre facing a copyright infringement lawsuit.
sounds far fetched doesnt it? well its the world you live in and its people like you, ignorant farts, that make it possible for policies like these to be issued unhindered by the big corporations.
Or how about you backed up the files to your external hard drive and went to the airport. Now they're looking at your files, and since it's not on you're crappod they've decided your distributing the files, and you're screwed all over again.

Face it guys, you're not sovereign Citizens of a state you're slave "citizens" of the corporation dba USA, and not "these united states".
I prefer Corporate Marketing Guinea Pigs, if you think living in the 18th Century America protects you from the evils of the modern age. i know a few places you'll love.
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