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Osama Bin Laden Facebook fan page shut down
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 19 April, 2010
A Facebook fan page for Osama Bin Laden has been shut down today, after 1000 "fans" signed up to watch posts linking to speeches and recordings of the Islamic extremist.
The page went up in late March, and refers to bin Laden as the "Prince of Mujahideen."
Although it is unclear who started the page, Facebook says they doubt there is any direct link, and the page was likely put up ... [ read the full article ]
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19. April 2010 @ 03:34 |
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Why would they take it down? Sounds like a great way to catch terrorists if you ask me.
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19. April 2010 @ 04:14 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Why would they take it down? Sounds like a great way to catch terrorists if you ask me.
They sound more like low life people trying to brain wash others low life people.....waste of time to get the real Fish.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 19. April 2010 @ 04:19
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19. April 2010 @ 05:18 |
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nah i think theyre just out there to piss americans off.. wanted to revive the intrest in the stupid muslim..kinda succeeded in a way but as usual it wont last more than a few days
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iamgq
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19. April 2010 @ 07:16 |
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sounds funny
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slickwill
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19. April 2010 @ 10:35 |
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Those facebook users were denied there right to free speech.
Just because something is offensive doesn't mean it should be censored, otherwise things that are non-offensive start to get censored, then we totally lose our right to free speech.
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19. April 2010 @ 11:07 |
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"Spokesman Andrew Noyes says the company has access to the IP addresses and email addresses used by a profile or a group. " Yeah, Because when I troll facebook I use my real email and no proxies.
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BODINE754
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19. April 2010 @ 12:46 |
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be thankfull i am not the king of america. i would shut facebook down completely. call it a national security measure or something. oh and craigs list would be next.
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afeaster
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19. April 2010 @ 13:11 |
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Originally posted by slickwill:
Those facebook users were denied there right to free speech.
Just because something is offensive doesn't mean it should be censored, otherwise things that are non-offensive start to get censored, then we totally lose our right to free speech.
It's a violations of Facebook terms - it has nothing to do with censorship. You agree to those terms when you create a page. Free speech doesn't require private companies to be a soap box for offensive content.
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slickwill
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19. April 2010 @ 13:32 |
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Originally posted by tb:
Originally posted by slickwill:
Those facebook users were denied there right to free speech.Just because something is offensive doesn't mean it should be censored, otherwise things that are non-offensive start to get censored, then we totally lose our right to free speech.
Facebook is not a government agency, but a business. They don't have to allow anything they deem as offensive on the site.
Originally posted by afeaster:
Originally posted by slickwill:
Those facebook users were denied there right to free speech.Just because something is offensive doesn't mean it should be censored, otherwise things that are non-offensive start to get censored, then we totally lose our right to free speech.
It's a violations of Facebook terms - it has nothing to do with censorship. You agree to those terms when you create a page. Free speech doesn't require private companies to be a soap box for offensive content.
The meaning of the word "offensive" is very subjective and would allow a broad range of things, even those that do not seem offensive to most people, to be removed/banned. While private businesses are not legally obligated to uphold our right to free speech, they have been conditioning us to freely give up our rights and this will have major repercussions in the long term.
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JSEA141
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19. April 2010 @ 13:33 |
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Originally posted by slickwill:
Those facebook users were denied there right to free speech.
Just because something is offensive doesn't mean it should be censored, otherwise things that are non-offensive start to get censored, then we totally lose our right to free speech.
Actually, smart guy, this has nothing to do with free speech... I can guarantee there is no right to free speech where this was created. And if it was created on American soil they should hang the a$$hole that posted it as a counterpoint to his "free speech". After all, actions are considered speech, and by your rationale murder should be legal... jacka$$. The man is responsible for the deaths of THOUSANDS of Americans, and should not be honored in any way on our soil.
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slickwill
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19. April 2010 @ 13:53 |
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Originally posted by JSEA141:
Originally posted by slickwill:
Those facebook users were denied there right to free speech.
Just because something is offensive doesn't mean it should be censored, otherwise things that are non-offensive start to get censored, then we totally lose our right to free speech.
Why not try leaving any ad-hominems out of the discussion.
Actually, smart guy, this has nothing to do with free speech... I can guarantee there is no right to free speech where this was created. And if it was created on American soil they should hang the a$$hole that posted it as a counterpoint to his "free speech". After all, actions are considered speech, and by your rationale murder should be legal... jacka$$. The man is responsible for the deaths of THOUSANDS of Americans, and should not be honored in any way on our soil.
This is another problem with languages, just because something is said, does encompass all the associations with what is said. By "speech", I was not associating that with "action".
Another false assumption is someone supporting the entire spectrum. I'm not supporting the facebook page that was created, but supporting free (textual) speech. For example, your response contained a personal attack, and while I find that somewhat offensive, I believe you shouldn't be censored (But an AfterDawn MOD my censor you.
If you do some research on Osama, not just blatantly believe what the mainstream media saids. You will find information that Osama was trained by the CIA and works for the U.S. Government. He is being used as the scapegoat to put all the blame on, he is the boogie man we should all fear to get us to submit to the government. The governments around the world have been using "false flag" attacks as a pretext to go to war and further oppress the people. (False flag meaning an entity attacks their own people and blame it on a foreign entity to use as an excuse to execute an agenda that wouldn't be allowed otherwise).
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19. April 2010 @ 14:36 |
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Not aiming this at anyone directly, but let's keep this on topic, and keep conspiracy theories to a minimum.
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dragonlion
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19. April 2010 @ 14:46 |
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Originally posted by slickwill:
Originally posted by JSEA141:
Originally posted by slickwill:
Those facebook users were denied there right to free speech.
Just because something is offensive doesn't mean it should be censored, otherwise things that are non-offensive start to get censored, then we totally lose our right to free speech.
Why not try leaving any ad-hominems out of the discussion.
Actually, smart guy, this has nothing to do with free speech... I can guarantee there is no right to free speech where this was created. And if it was created on American soil they should hang the a$$hole that posted it as a counterpoint to his "free speech". After all, actions are considered speech, and by your rationale murder should be legal... jacka$$. The man is responsible for the deaths of THOUSANDS of Americans, and should not be honored in any way on our soil.
This is another problem with languages, just because something is said, does encompass all the associations with what is said. By "speech", I was not associating that with "action".
Another false assumption is someone supporting the entire spectrum. I'm not supporting the facebook page that was created, but supporting free (textual) speech. For example, your response contained a personal attack, and while I find that somewhat offensive, I believe you shouldn't be censored (But an AfterDawn MOD my censor you.
If you do some research on Osama, not just blatantly believe what the mainstream media saids. You will find information that Osama was trained by the CIA and works for the U.S. Government. He is being used as the scapegoat to put all the blame on, he is the boogie man we should all fear to get us to submit to the government. The governments around the world have been using "false flag" attacks as a pretext to go to war and further oppress the people. (False flag meaning an entity attacks their own people and blame it on a foreign entity to use as an excuse to execute an agenda that wouldn't be allowed otherwise).
While I understand to some level what you are talking about, let me put it like this. When you sign up a account with facebook, live journal, myspace and youtube their are rules that you have to abide by to try and keep peace between all bloggers and users. For instance on youtube you can't post porn on it because that would be offensive for the other viewers of youtube. Perhaps what was on the facebook page itself had offended so many people that their were a lot of complaints which gives facebook the right to ban it. It's just like how on youtube their are some videos where you can't hear music because of copy right laws. Also, on livejournal you can put almost anything on your page, but if you went to far they do have the RIGHT to take down your page but you also have the right to make a new one. So you freaking out about freedom of speech makes you a idiot. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech, it's just a webpage where bloggers and users can come together. What if on this page the followers were congregating and making comments about how they were going to attack america? Maybe that was one reason why facebook tore it down. Or perhaps people were starting to get a little too rambuctious. All and all I suggest you go set up a facebook account or read their terms and agreements before you scream freedom of speech or anything else for that matter. Also If I were you I would do a little bit of research before screaming about how people are taking our rights. It's fucking facebook. Get over it.
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19. April 2010 @ 15:49 |
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Originally posted by slickwill:
Originally posted by tb:
Originally posted by slickwill:
Those facebook users were denied there right to free speech.Just because something is offensive doesn't mean it should be censored, otherwise things that are non-offensive start to get censored, then we totally lose our right to free speech.
Facebook is not a government agency, but a business. They don't have to allow anything they deem as offensive on the site.
Originally posted by afeaster:
Originally posted by slickwill:
Those facebook users were denied there right to free speech.Just because something is offensive doesn't mean it should be censored, otherwise things that are non-offensive start to get censored, then we totally lose our right to free speech.
It's a violations of Facebook terms - it has nothing to do with censorship. You agree to those terms when you create a page. Free speech doesn't require private companies to be a soap box for offensive content.
The meaning of the word "offensive" is very subjective and would allow a broad range of things, even those that do not seem offensive to most people, to be removed/banned. While private businesses are not legally obligated to uphold our right to free speech, they have been conditioning us to freely give up our rights and this will have major repercussions in the long term.
I would like to tell you a little History of what happen here In Las Vegas few weeks ago:
Like many already know here in USA: Some Government Offices on diff States been cutting off employees from working on State jobs: to save money.....Anyway: They (Politicians) took the challenge to cut off some Firemen here (they work with Union "Teamsters").
One Firemen create a new Heat page on Facebook against the people who took the challenge...many other firemen follow him, posting shit on it. The Facebook page do not last no even 24 hrs to get shut down and the fireman(s) who created the page got fire (loss his job) in a heart bet.
Note: They are things we can post here and there. But they are others things out of line post by people with very few brain cells robbing together on cess-pool's like Craigslist, Facebook and others.
Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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slickwill
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19. April 2010 @ 15:49 |
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Originally posted by dragonlion:
Also If I were you I would do a little bit of research before screaming about how people are taking our rights. It's fucking facebook. Get over it.
I rarely use facebook and am not obsessing over it. What I'm saying isn't focused on facebook, but focused on a much broader spectrum.
Originally posted by antiTool:
While some of what you say is true. Osama Bin Laden does not work for the US government retard. We supported many people during the Soviet occupation that we now don't consider friends. Osama attacked the US about 7 times before 9-11. Only people that buy the "false flag" tactics of other countries, and retard english majors like "loose change" who have all been proven false factually by the academic community believe in conspiracy theories about OBL and the US government. More of a reason that free speech should exclude the right to slander, or libel countries and people. Lying creates zombies like you.
How do we know that the people from the academic community who disproved "Loose Change" aren't the same people who are pushing the status quo of the so called "official story" given by the mainstream media and government officials. You see, these entities are trying to control both sides of the debate, so the masses will keep fighting with each other, instead of focusing together on the real threat.
911 is just the tip of the iceberg and dovetails with a much bigger picture of events both past/present/future. The bigger picture is the NWO (New World Order) that aims to create a global government and economy. All these events/acts are used to get to this goal (t3rr0r attacks, economic collapse, disease pandemics, food supply control, etc).
If any of you watch the cable news networks, they have been hyping and conditioning the public for the next big domestic attack (Oklahoma & Nuclear Stories) that will be blamed by those who are Tea Partiers, Constitutionalists, End the Feders,etc. And this event will make all the citizens appear to be potential criminals and be used as a pretext to expand Martial Law in the U.S.
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19. April 2010 @ 15:50 |
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Even if it was a public website (as opposed to the private FACEBOOK website) OBL is still a criminal and as such has no such "free speech" rights.
Also, the much touted "free speech" that everyone seems to be all worried about is something from the US Constitution which has little if any application to international speech. In otherwords, it's presumed that an American Citizen has those rights listed in the Constitution while within the borders of the US. None of which seems to apply here.
All of that being said, Facebook, as a private enterprise can "reserve the right to refuse service" to anyone or anything they wish.
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