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Sony discontinues floppy discs in Japan
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article published on 25 April, 2010
Sony has announced this weekend that they will be discontinuing all sales of the 3.5-inch floppy disc in Japan starting in 2011, effectively killing off the three decade old disk type.
The company helped pioneer the disk in 1981, introducing the technology that year and then starting to sell the discs in 1983.
At its height in the year 2000, Sony shipped 47 million disks, but that ... [ read the full article ]
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plazma247
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28. April 2010 @ 07:27 |
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One thing this thread has done has re-kindled old memories of running around the computer lab with big magents stolen from science and watching the face on the teacher as all the students all of a sudden complained that disks didnt work.
You know he never said anything but to this day im pretty sure he realised there was a connection between me walking past work bays and disks dying.
Needless to say i think he enjoyed the free periods as much as we did.
Oh and also the time i had a full out argument infront of a 120 people with the lecture that all HDD were not called winchester disk and was only the code name for an ibm disk that bore a 30/30 setup and they named if after a wincherter 30/30 rifle, all subsiquent disks may have been refered to as winchester but its like calling an i7 a pentium cpu.
Needless to say 20 mintues into our argument and after she offered me to take the lecture and me accepting she backed down said she would look into it and moved on with something else.
Personally i dont think she ever forgave me for showing her up like that.
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ddp
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28. April 2010 @ 12:31 |
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plazma247, what do you think hard drives are but as you say "But they are all frekkin EVIL you hear me, booo magnteic media."?
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28. April 2010 @ 12:33 |
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Your right, But they are all frekkin EVIL you hear me, booo magnteic media.
One word...HArddrive...
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CURSE YOU!!! you crippled the reply button so you could ninja me!!!!
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28. April 2010 @ 12:41 |
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zippy, remember i have the lightning bolts.
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28. April 2010 @ 12:44 |
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zippy, remember i have the lightning bolts.
Remember I like noming on sockets. ^_~
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ddp
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28. April 2010 @ 13:10 |
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zippy, noming on sockets. ^_~ ?
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plazma247
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28. April 2010 @ 13:15 |
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EVIL AS WELL, i want cheaper SSD Devices so we can drop magnetic media completely it should have gone out with the VHS.
New memory technology over the next 5 years should fully start to realise this.
However the real promis is coming along in 3D Optical devices.
There is other types of storage systems which are probably still further off, but magnetic media has only lasted so long due to its attractive price over the alternatives.
What we used to do with Floppy we Then Did with CD's Then DVD's and Now far more frequently USB Solid State Memory, which has been the basic path of the take it away and some place else media storage.
However the hard Disk has virtualy remaind the same since the IBM 3040 Drive first got introduced, ok we have had various new innovations that have allowed us to sequeze even more and more out of the hard disk, im not even going to start to pretend that its over yet, im sure there will be much more to come still.
But what im saying is large gap between the level of Faster Quiter More Engery Efficent SSD Drives has now closed to the point say a 33GB SSD is not going to scare you away when you see the price. The power savings can be a lot, in desktop machines, i dont know about any one else buy my machines are on most of the time thats lots of spinning motors, platters and heads that is power wasted and personally i cant wait see SSD drives drop some more so i can affford a decent sized drive as a boot drive so instead of having to spin up a raid striped array of drives to get the speed.
When i say its evil, its because we all so convinced its that great, when every other extension of the computer has moved forward in leaps and bounds.
Look at output as a function.
1. Printers (PAPER PRODUCTION AND REPLICATION)
Goes along the lines of.
Daisy Wheel, Dotmatrix, Thermal Ribbon/Bubble Jet, Ink Jet, Laser
Whenever a new technology got invented and the price came down people switched over and we got the better tech at the lower price.
2. Video
(im not listing all the video standareds this is just genralised before you flame me)
Mono, CGA, EGA, VGA, SVGA until we got to a point where it still wasnt enough until we got upto todays moden 1080p and higher dispay systems.
Along the way we increasingly got more colours, deapth brightness and a better reproduction.
The other Side is going from a mono tube (Cathod Ray Gun) pointed at your head to OLED Displays and Laser Projection systems.
3. The Removable storage media i listed above but this equates to.
Punch Card, Tape, Big Big Floppy, Big Floppy, Smaller Floppy, LS120/ZIP, CD, DVD and SSD Memory in the form of USB or memory card.
Inside the machine things have changed as well, completely sepirate systems merged and lines got crossed with GPU's out performing the Core CPU (something someone of the 1990's would have fallen around the floor laughting if you had told them yours did). Chipsets and new CPUS eating up more and more parts.
The hard Disk tho has pretty much stayed the same, tracks and sectors have grown smaller to provide more space, but essentially we stuck with the hdd as it was the most cost effective solution.
But as things are now starting to change as some laptops come as standard with SSD drives and most netbook are based on them we will see more use in the desktop market as prices drops further still.
How many hearts have been broken by lost data due to hard disk fault, howmany companies have lost money due to data lost, the family memories lost, think of the children !!!
So instead of defending the HDD we should be embracing the SSD generation more and moving on.
As with so many of previous peices of tech we can look back and go "did we seriously ever use that".
So when i say the HDD is evil, belive me when your asleep at night and dreaming nice things, its sitting there just waiting, just for that right moment for your world to fall apart.
Losing a hard drive can vary from what equates to a friend dying for the shear amount of valude date that was lost. To a state where you have backups and fall backs but still had to endure the process of putting it back and making it all work again, which probably equates to bumping into a person you didnt really like. Whilst already in a resturant and getting asked if they can sit down to lunch with you, to polite to refuse you have to go through with the short ordeal anyway.
SSD disk are not flawless but its far less then them magically to stop working and wreak peoples lives. MAHAhaha
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28. April 2010 @ 13:56 |
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What about the write limit to SDD? Even if its faster and cheaper than a HDD I'd trust my data more to blu ray than SDD.... unles it was half the price GB wise....
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plazma247
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28. April 2010 @ 14:01 |
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Zippy is that not exactly what i said!
Yes theres a Write limit, but its a plausable faliure time instead of an unknow ticking time bomb.
And the price will come down, it has and will continue to... like i said .. !
As for trusting data to blueray its all fine and good, but thats large storage removable media, not internal storage.
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28. April 2010 @ 14:04 |
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Well untill tis half the price of HDD's by the GB its not worth my investment....
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28. April 2010 @ 21:21 |
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Sony To Discontinue Sales Of Floppy Disks In Japan: Ah, Floppy disks, if you?re quite young, you may not even have
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29. April 2010 @ 00:53 |
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Floppy disks? You mean those things I used to save porn pics on in 5th grade when we went to Computer Lab class?
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30. April 2010 @ 05:27 |
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Originally posted by plazma247:
Zippy is that not exactly what i said!
Yes theres a Write limit, but its a plausable faliure time instead of an unknow ticking time bomb.
No, it is a progressive failure in progress, and it still has a higher spontanious failure rate than a hard disk.
Plus, flash does not have much future. It is right at the edge of the theoretical limits, and there are at least 6 competing technologies that do the same job much better. The only reason these technologies are not in all of our cell phones is the fact that selling incremental flash drives (2GB, then 4, then 8, etc) allows the flash producer to make money of the same customer over and over again...you don't get that from a 1TB drive. The fact is that 1TB non-flash drive prototypes have been around for years...but there is a lot more money (and less initial investment) in selling 32GB SD cards instead.
I'm waiting for the day that AD posts a news story about SanDisk discontinuing SD cards because they are so obsolite...a news story that might have happened in the next few years if not for corporate greed.
Yes, I would love to dump all my magnetic media, and just put everything onto a pile of 1TB non-flash drives...but it isn't going to happen any time soon...and by the time it does, 1TB will probably be considered small.
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