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Songwriters want piracy investigated by FBI, compare it to bank robbery
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article published on 4 May, 2010
The Songwriters Guild of America has made it clear with a note this weekend, via Ars, that music piracy is worse than bank robbery, and that the FBI should begin prosecuting all file-sharers civilly and criminally.
"There are numerous economic crimes of much lesser magnitude (such as bank robbery) that are routinely and fully investigated, for which law enforcement agencies such as the ... [ read the full article ]
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4. May 2010 @ 13:15 |
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LOL! Good luck SGA!
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4. May 2010 @ 13:50 |
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"By contrast, online copyright piracy dwarfs bank robbery in causing economic losses, yet the FBI has limited criminal investigative interest and no civil mandate whatsoever to pursue this devastating economic harm. This inequity must change."
That's because bank robbery numbers aren't fictitious estimates.
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4. May 2010 @ 14:03 |
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If so much music today didn't suck there wouldn't be a need. Greedy DB's.
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4. May 2010 @ 14:49 |
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yup sounds very convincing..robbing a bank, usually done with a gun,while threatening peoples lives is just about the same criminal degree as a 12 year old logging onto the piratebay or even google to download a 0.99c song.
i in contrast believe that everyone whos already made a million, and im saying a million because its obvious theyre all multi millioners, should pipe down and take what overrated payday he has in his bank already and let the poor 12 year old kid listen to a song or 2 to make his normal work-a-day life a little easier
it might be a crime but so is shoplifting. niether is justifiable yet you dont see the FBI logging losses made by shoplifters and follow them around to make sure they dont do it again. there are more important things to attend to,like bank robberies for instance.
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4. May 2010 @ 14:57 |
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That's because bank robbery numbers aren't fictitious estimates
Thats right banks cant get away with the crap that media mafias are allowed to get away with harrassing the customer
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4. May 2010 @ 15:20 |
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If so much music today didn't suck there wouldn't be a need. Greedy DB's.
I agree. Maybe they're trying to blame the drop in sales on piracy instead of horrible music :P
And I think the reason for spending more time on bank robbery is that it's a crime that puts HUMAN BEINGS (not just money, like piracy) in immediate danger.
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4. May 2010 @ 15:56 |
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This remind me:
The stupid and lazy Police stopping people with old cars 'cos they are easy target in stead to go for the real Criminals.
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4. May 2010 @ 16:23 |
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Don't they know this will affect sites like youtube WERE EVEN The Music and Movie is involved within it, hell even the white house has a account on youtube If this does go threw I doubt it will is these IDIOTS will commit Economy Suicide and help cripple it even farther. Think about it, it could make legal sites even with DRM in it be affected what they propose.
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4. May 2010 @ 16:38 |
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Waste of time and how is downloading a bank robbery really are you serious? Everyone is going nuts over piracy! Get it straight we are file sharers! Piracy,Pirate - Selling illegal copyright materials without permission of the right holder. The right holder law bullsh*t are just messed up law to begin with. We don't need to make File-sharing a serious murder crime or bank crime. We need to uncripple the laws that have been set by the industry and find new ways the right holder laws! If you want me or any other file sharer on the net to start buying music again stop trying to push me farther down the hill by stupid and harsher laws. It doesn't do any good. Look at the drug laws hmm i can see pattern going on. Law enforcement spends millions on stopping drug trafficking, but they can't stop it. Its a waste of time and resources. When did smoking weed ever be problem. One it doesn't messup the persons motor system in his brain like Alcohol does that is praised by because its LEGAL. THINK Before you take our nation down with your stupidity. LONG-LIVE-FIle-SHARING
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ivymike
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4. May 2010 @ 17:13 |
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Sounds like this SGA group is just another front from the RIAA (sic).
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4. May 2010 @ 17:21 |
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Originally posted by darkmetal:
Waste of time and how is downloading a bank robbery really are you serious? Everyone is going nuts over piracy! Get it straight we are file sharers! Piracy,Pirate - Selling illegal copyright materials without permission of the right holder. The right holder law bullsh*t are just messed up law to begin with. We don't need to make File-sharing a serious murder crime or bank crime. We need to uncripple the laws that have been set by the industry and find new ways the right holder laws! If you want me or any other file sharer on the net to start buying music again stop trying to push me farther down the hill by stupid and harsher laws. It doesn't do any good. Look at the drug laws hmm i can see pattern going on. Law enforcement spends millions on stopping drug trafficking, but they can't stop it. Its a waste of time and resources. When did smoking weed ever be problem. One it doesn't messup the persons motor system in his brain like Alcohol does that is praised by because its LEGAL. THINK Before you take our nation down with your stupidity. LONG-LIVE-FIle-SHARING
I could say the same to you. You act like copyright law is a bad thing and people shouldn't be able to protect their work at all. Though hugely flawed, copyright law is important in that it protects people from putting time, maybe years, into a project then someone just copying it off.
However, this is getting ridiculous with the enforcement of copyright law, such as with this stupid proposal. Next we'll be ignoring Al'Qaeda to go after the real terrorists, premature and pubescent children downloading R rated movies.
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4. May 2010 @ 17:34 |
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Originally posted by WierdName:
Originally posted by darkmetal:
Waste of time and how is downloading a bank robbery really are you serious? Everyone is going nuts over piracy! Get it straight we are file sharers! Piracy,Pirate - Selling illegal copyright materials without permission of the right holder. The right holder law bullsh*t are just messed up law to begin with. We don't need to make File-sharing a serious murder crime or bank crime. We need to uncripple the laws that have been set by the industry and find new ways the right holder laws! If you want me or any other file sharer on the net to start buying music again stop trying to push me farther down the hill by stupid and harsher laws. It doesn't do any good. Look at the drug laws hmm i can see pattern going on. Law enforcement spends millions on stopping drug trafficking, but they can't stop it. Its a waste of time and resources. When did smoking weed ever be problem. One it doesn't messup the persons motor system in his brain like Alcohol does that is praised by because its LEGAL. THINK Before you take our nation down with your stupidity. LONG-LIVE-FIle-SHARING
I could say the same to you. You act like copyright law is a bad thing and people shouldn't be able to protect their work at all. Though hugely flawed, copyright law is important in that it protects people from putting time, maybe years, into a project then someone just copying it off.
However, this is getting ridiculous with the enforcement of copyright law, such as with this stupid proposal. Next we'll be ignoring Al'Qaeda to go after the real terrorists, premature and pubescent children downloading R rated movies.
Copyright law is better bad since it can't tell the difference in selling something for profit and trading information for free.
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4. May 2010 @ 19:56 |
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Rob a bank, stash the money, get 25 years possibly less with good behavior. get out of jail,retrieve money. Go to Canada and live like a king.
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Go to website, download movie, go to jail for 25 years. Get out owe the media cartel $500,000 dollars. refuse to pay. go back to jail.
i don't know about you guys but id rather really Rob a bank.
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4. May 2010 @ 22:46 |
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You heard them people...let's go out and rob some banks, clearly it is a completely harmless activity if it is less harmful than piracy.
BTW...when you rob a bank, you take money away. No one holds up a bank to setup a counterfeit operation where they copy all the money and leave all the real money there...the SWAT team would kill you long before you could get through a plan like that. On the other hand, piracy can occur completely without the knowledge of the IP holder, as nothing is taken away. The truth is, piracy is less damaging to society than a 4-year-old child stealing a candybar.
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4. May 2010 @ 22:54 |
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I could say so much. But I'm pretty sure all of you here would just agree with it. So to sum it up, LOL
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5. May 2010 @ 02:37 |
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Their requests simply cannot be done. They are either too far-fetched or can be bypassed.
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5. May 2010 @ 05:22 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
Rob a bank, stash the money, get 25 years possibly less with good behavior. get out of jail,retrieve money. Go to Canada and live like a king.
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Go to website, download movie, go to jail for 25 years. Get out owe the media cartel $500,000 dollars. refuse to pay. go back to jail.
i don't know about you guys but id rather really Rob a bank.
lol 2nd time we agree mate,nice one
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5. May 2010 @ 05:37 |
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Headline from the Future:
"Man Holds up bank, demands that his iPod be filled with DRM-free music."
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5. May 2010 @ 13:04 |
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5. May 2010 @ 13:51 |
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Here is a little bit better source to listen to, a study released on April 12th, 2010 and posted on a U.S. government website, here. It says, as quoted below, that assumptions are used because accurate data cannot be gathered.
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Three widely cited U.S. government estimates of economic losses resulting from counterfeiting cannot be substantiated due to the absence of underlying studies.
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Generally, the illicit nature of counterfeiting and piracy makes estimating the economic impact of IP infringements extremely difficult, so assumptions must be used to offset the lack of data.
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5. May 2010 @ 18:56 |
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This is crazy talk and why I joined the pirate party of Canada.
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6. May 2010 @ 04:59 |
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Hypothetically, if everyone were to stop pirating music and boycott from buying music, the SGA would still complain. They would say things like "The FBI should make everyone purchase a certain quota of music every year, like the government did with healthcare insurance."
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6. May 2010 @ 05:28 |
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im sure the FBI has better stuff to do like stopping child pornography for 1.Most people arn't downloading and distributing music for money they just want to listen to it and yeah they may even make the occasional copy for a friends.if alcohol was a problem and the governement wasn't making millions of dollars from it they soon crack down on it or try to, same with tobacco.
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6. May 2010 @ 08:35 |
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They'll have to start closing down radio stations then, I hear free music on them all day....
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6. May 2010 @ 10:42 |
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Our jails will now be filled with music lovers? Is that what they want? The problem it won't be the jails, it would be reform schools. Most bank robberies aren't done by kids 12 to 18 years old.
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