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article published on 31 May, 2010
The extremely popular social networking site Facebook has been blocked in Bangladesh this weekend after pages were found to include satirical images of the prophet Muhammad.
Additionally, satirical images were found of Bengali leaders and one man was even arrested and charged with "spreading malice and insulting the country's leaders."
The block is temporary, and Bengali officials ... [ read the full article ]
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31. May 2010 @ 03:07 |
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Durka durka mohammaad jihad!
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31. May 2010 @ 05:17 |
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How do people live in these countries? People don't have the right not to be offended.
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31. May 2010 @ 05:56 |
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Same happened in Torontostan.
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31. May 2010 @ 11:13 |
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maybe they should of consulted the people but if a country feels facebook is insulting/offending their religion or anything else they have the right to ban.i disagree with the ban but i dont live there so my opinion doesnt matter(to them anyway).
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31. May 2010 @ 11:16 |
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maybe they should of consulted the people
That hasn't caught on in the West - I doubt that it's likely in an intolerant theocracy.
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31. May 2010 @ 14:53 |
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It all comes down to respect IMO. Think of it this way: what if somebody insulted a family member that you were very close to and a person says derogatory comments about him/her, how would you feel. This is how that country feels. If you don't give respect to somebody, you're likely not to get it back, hence the blocking of Facebook in Bangladesh. We need to use common sense, and not our heads in our asses. I don't expect the Facebook CEO to think this way, since he's very young and naive anyways.
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31. May 2010 @ 15:35 |
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This is total rubbish. Do we know, for sure, what this Muhammad fella actually looked like? It's the same with other so-called religious characters. It's only an artist's imagination that makes them appear to be the same as random markings in a pizza, cucumber, clouds, tin of baked beans or whatever!
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31. May 2010 @ 17:39 |
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Originally posted by davolente:
This is total rubbish. Do we know, for sure, what this Muhammad fella actually looked like? It's the same with other so-called religious characters. It's only an artist's imagination that makes them appear to be the same as random markings in a pizza, cucumber, clouds, tin of baked beans or whatever!
Maybe, but Bangladesh is like no their country, and still needs to be respected for their beliefs, end of story, IMO.
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31. May 2010 @ 17:59 |
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Originally posted by blueboy09:
Originally posted by davolente:
This is total rubbish. Do we know, for sure, what this Muhammad fella actually looked like? It's the same with other so-called religious characters. It's only an artist's imagination that makes them appear to be the same as random markings in a pizza, cucumber, clouds, tin of baked beans or whatever!
Maybe, but Bangladesh is like no their country, and still needs to be respected for their beliefs, end of story, IMO.
i personally respect them for their beliefs but i think the usage of Facebook should be decided by the person example my friend hates it so she doesn't use it
now like me i use it and i would be pissed if the government as a whole said no you can't use it just because we don't like it
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31. May 2010 @ 18:15 |
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If the DEB goies through in the UK we can expect this sort of censorship to become the norm. I don't remember any websites being banned because they featured blasphemous Christian images or texts though...
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31. May 2010 @ 23:26 |
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do have i got right to abuse your mother or your family? definitely not, then how come anyone abusing or disrespecting anyone's religion which is more serious than disrespecting or abusing one's family. That is stupidity. Christians never faced any muslim saying anything against jesus we even even can not think. Then why we been not given by such respect from our christian brothers.
You think abusing a real, living human being isn't as bad as "disrespecting" a religious figure? That is stupidity.
Muslims have said plenty of negative shit about Christians/Jesus, and vice versa, where do you get your facts from?
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1. June 2010 @ 00:52 |
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There is unfortunately a difference in value here. I don't believe in any religion, so I could care less if something offensive is said about any religion. I think the best solution would be for people to just stop being offended by things.
Words and insults only hurt as much as you let them, just relax and try not to take things so seriously. Just be happy with your own beliefs, no need to defend it to the death. No need to force others to change their opinions, or silence/censor anything, this is how society goes backwards in terms of advancement.
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1. June 2010 @ 01:00 |
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All religion is bullcrap. Anyone suggesting I should respect these beliefs is full of it.
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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1. June 2010 @ 02:01 |
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i remember the teenage years stuffing around with friends (yo mamma jokes) no one got hit or offended it was just a bit of fun and no one truely hated another ones mum.There have been arguments and wars and fights and stuff over different of religions&difference of beliefs.real people like and respect you for who you are regardless or your religious beliefs.
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1. June 2010 @ 06:58 |
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Despite the many anti Christian tirades and propaganda over the years from other religious groups none have been censured (or censored) for their publication. It seems that every other religion can and does condemn Christianity to the depths of hell (while living in the Christian country they profess to hate) and nothing gets said.
YET as soon as anything even squeaks a hint of satire, humour or dissent against Islam, the faithful are up in arms and death threats, Fatwas and death to the infidel are trumpeted from the rooftops. Overreacting? Moi?
I think religion has been the excuse for more bloodshed and war than any other cause over the past 1000 years or so, and the current climate of fear is doing nothing to address this. We should all become Jedi.
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1. June 2010 @ 10:49 |
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I am not Muslim, but I have Muslim friends and they tell me they respect Jesus as a prophet of God. Their beef with Christianity sounds more to do with evangelical Christians who support Israel both financially (in their support of the $6B the US gives to Israel every year) and spiritually (Christian evangelicals like Clyde Lott who is trying to breed a perfect red heifer to facilitate the end of the world through prophecy...google "red heifer prophecy" if you're interested).
Many of us confuse regular Muslims(who may say what we consider is crazy sh!t because we don't see through the same lense as we do on reality...but it's mostly low level stuff) with the crazies who I consider are just evil m'fers. There are levels of belief here, tho. You have your regular Muslims who are riled up because of world events...then you have your radicals who are either mislead or just flat out members of more extreme versions of Islam such as Wahhabism. We can't tell by looking at their skin and that scares the sh!t out of us.
IMO, this stuff should wake people up to what a Theocracy (and think of Middle Eastern countries) is capable of when you hear people here in America trying to take down the concept of the separation of Church and State. Thomas Jefferson just got removed from the Texas history books for the school history curriculum because he was widely credited for the concept of the "Separation of Church and State."
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1. June 2010 @ 16:20 |
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Originally posted by jahanzyb:
Originally posted by blueboy09:
Originally posted by davolente:
This is total rubbish. Do we know, for sure, what this Muhammad fella actually looked like? It's the same with other so-called religious characters. It's only an artist's imagination that makes them appear to be the same as random markings in a pizza, cucumber, clouds, tin of baked beans or whatever!
Maybe, but Bangladesh is like no their country, and still needs to be respected for their beliefs, end of story, IMO.
do have i got right to abuse your mother or your family? definitely not, then how come anyone abusing or disrespecting anyone's religion which is more serious than disrespecting or abusing one's family. That is stupidity. Christians never faced any muslim saying anything against jesus we even even can not think. Then why we been not given by such respect from our christian brothers.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions and beliefs, provided they do not try and push them on to other people. It is just this fanaticism that proves to me that religion and the people that spout this sort of rhetoric create dangerous situations that can often escalate into murder. Brainwashing also comes to mind.
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1. June 2010 @ 17:13 |
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Originally posted by IguanaC64:
Many of us confuse regular Muslims(who may say what we consider is crazy sh!t because we don't see through the same lense as we do on reality...but it's mostly low level stuff) with the crazies who I consider are just evil m'fers. There are levels of belief here, tho. You have your regular Muslims who are riled up because of world events...then you have your radicals who are either mislead or just flat out members of more extreme versions of Islam such as Wahhabism. We can't tell by looking at their skin and that scares the sh!t out of us.
So we are always told, and there is truth to that. However, two things:
1) Moderates are a breeding ground for extremists (I'm not just talking about Islam).
2) No moderate leaders of any great note or in any great number has had the balls to speak out against it.
"It's a hell of a lot easier to be righteous than right."
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2. June 2010 @ 01:11 |
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I have no issue with any country banning some webpage. That is certainly their right even if I think it's stupid.
The REAL problem is when these portals... (Facebook, Google, Youtube or others) feel that they have to bend to this countries own sense of morality at the expense of free speech.
As I understand it, most Christians abhor the thought of the killing of an unborn baby. (pro-life). They don't just not like it, they feel it is an abomination. Every bit as "sacrilegious" and any muslim might think of a depiction of Mohammad. And yet there are hundreds of thousands of pro abortion websites and Face Book pages. Should the Pro-Lifers threaten "banning" unless they are all removed? I think not.
Like it or not this is an open society on an open world. If your society chooses to live in the dark ages then that is certainly your right, but you have no business dragging me down with you.
Facebook has no business censoring those pages to placate this backassed country.
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2. June 2010 @ 04:44 |
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...It does seem to me that religious intolerance gets things done. And if your religion is so fervent as to propogate violence against those who oppose it, you can create a climate where anything you say will get attention...
I also believe that one of the reasons for the fastest growing religion in the world is that you have no choice but to be in it...
People and organisations should not react to threats with fear and compliance. I used to live in a free country. These days I feel George Orwell would be tutting and saying 'I told you so...'
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Originally posted by Howie696:
These days I feel George Orwell would be tutting and saying 'I told you so...'
Yeah, 1984 was a joke title because he wrote it in 1948. He meant it for all time. The technology in it was incidental to the efficiency of the processes involved with totalitarianism... which by the way, was the norm for a long long time. I sometimes take umbrage at the relativistic approach to history usually taken.
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2. June 2010 @ 09:40 |
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@Jemborg - Any sufficiently oppressed, disaffected, destitute, or angry population can be a breeding ground regardless of religion. The Muslim extremists are the people instigating this, but they couldn't recruit successfully without leveraging those four things. You're not going to win a ground war against tactics. Sun Tzu said something similar about using a hammer to hit water.
"No moderate leaders of any great note or in any great number has had the balls to speak out against it."
"Great note" is a matter of opinion...most opponents of "great note" wouldn't be recognized here or have been assassinated. Opponents of "great note" that would be known here would have a hard time living in America and having any overseas credibility. Many of the tribal elders who significantly helped turn the war around in Iraq have been assassinated. I'd consider them "opponents of great note," but I doubt a single American remembers their names. Who, with credibility, do you think should be standing up?
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