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DVD won't play in all DVD Players
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ScubaPete
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7. June 2004 @ 13:55 |
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kazafog, I think when you make the change you'll be a happier camper -
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Pete
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samuels
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7. June 2004 @ 14:19 |
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scubaP,
i am in the middle of a 50 pack of "smart" disc's (DVD-r) absolute crap. As for zooco's comment about bad rips causing pixelation possibly but media definitely causes it. i find 2 out of 3 of my dvd players will not pixelate and the last will. then i can reburn from the copy and it will work. EXtremely FRustrating. I will take note on your earlier comments, thanks.
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yeah sure it can be the media,but what i have found is,that it's the actual standalone player,lenses seem to vary,,,from sensitive to very sensitive,(by this i mean with dust build up)also just one tiny spec of dust or foreign matter on the dvd-r disc causes pixelation
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xdavis
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28. July 2004 @ 07:52 |
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I have a question for you guys. I've been reading about which DVD Media I should by. I made the mistake of buying Memorex and Liquid Video before I saw this forum. I have a Pacific Digital 8x dual drive. The only successful burn so far for me is on a Ridata +RW. I really would like to know if a firmware upgrade will make the DVD Burner recognize the Memorex, and will it make it playable in my Sony DVD player. The thing is that the burn always says successful, but my DVD player can't read it. I will check my manufacturer id on the memorex, but I think it is cmc.mag.f01.
BigGuy
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hm1
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28. July 2004 @ 08:17 |
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I use
Ritek Grade A disc
DVD shrink
And Recordmax
So far so good
peace
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ScubaPete
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28. July 2004 @ 15:12 |
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Here xdavis, try this link for your drive's firmware - you can find it anytime by using "Google" -
http://www.pacificdigital.com/dl/pafiledb.php?action=category&id=6
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really would like to know if a firmware upgrade will make the DVD Burner recognize the Memorex, and will it make it playable in my Sony DVD player.
There's no way of knowing exactly what information is included in your firmware But to answer your question about Nec making sure your Memorex will play in your Sony, my guess is, not in 10 million years -
A short definition of Firmware from the A/D Glossary says:
Sort of a "operating system of the hardware", an embedded instruction set built-in or flashed into a hardware equipment, such as a router, CDR drive, DVD-ROM drive, washing machine, etc.
You might want to "Google" to find out what it is, what it can and cannot do :)
You also might want to look through of threads to see why your Memorex is an extremely lousy choice of media to use for DVD backups -
Lastly, you might want to download this little tool to find out who is making your Memorex today -
http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
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Pete
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joeymac
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29. July 2004 @ 01:52 |
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Scube Pete
On the subject of Firmware, I only installed Nero from the Plextor 708A installation disk then downloaded DVD Shrink From the AfterDawn forum. This seem to work well, using DVD Shrink to view and or compress any disk before writnig with Nero. Is there any great advantage intalling Firmware? or am I missing the meaning or use of the term Firmware.
P.S. I am thnking of installling a large Hard Disk on the Raid IDE of my system, any thoughts on this idea?
Cheers Joeymac
P.P.S. Good to see you still look in and assist newcomers
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xdavis
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29. July 2004 @ 05:21 |
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Went out, and bought a 50 pack of Verbatim DVD-r's. It works like a charm now. Pete once again thanks. Didn't mean to post to two forums. Just started using this yesterday.
BigGuy
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ScubaPete
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29. July 2004 @ 14:58 |
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samuels, I'm sooo very sorry I didn't cover your post -
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yeah sure it can be the media,but what I have found is,that it's the actual standalone player,lenses seem to vary,,,from sensitive to very sensitive,(by this I mean with dust build up)also just one tiny spec of dust or foreign matter on the dvd-r disc causes pixelation
Not to worry my little Grasshopper, in time you too shall see the light :)
(Translation: As you spend more time here you'll find out how truly important your media really is -)
cheers, "P"
joeymac, Welcome to our little Club, we're glad to have you onboard :)
Firmware my friend, is a set of instructions for your burner. Among many other things, it tells your drive what discs to recognize (as new discs come out), it tells it at what speed to burn certain discs and it also updates the information your drive had when it was manufactured. It has nothing to do with the interaction of software programs on your PC.
An ASPI layer, on the other hand, are a layer of drivers that help with the interaction of your software and your hardware, in other words, your DVD Drive. We want to make sure we have an ASPI layer in place on your PC.
Finally, I have 3 HD's. A 120 GB for my primary C: drive and 2, 200GB HD's. One internal and one on a USB connection. All HD's are NTFS, with Primary partitions and, "I love them all equally."
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P.P.S. Good to see you still look in and assist newcomers
I'm not sure I understand, this is the place on the forum I like the best. Working with my "Newbies," :P)
cheers,
Pete
xdavis,
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Went out, and bought a 50 pack of Verbatim DVD-r's. It works like a charm now. Pete once again thanks.
(And yet another convert to go out and carry the word to a dark and unknowing world)
You're more than welcome. It is amazing how many problems are eliminated by using the proper media when doing DVD backups :) Go forth young xdavis and spread the word :D
cheers,
Pete
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joeymac
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29. July 2004 @ 16:51 |
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Thanks for all the info Pete, just a small point re your info:
Is it advisable/possible to upgrade Firmware ie from the Plextor website?
Thanks for you patience Pete
Joeymac
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ScubaPete
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29. July 2004 @ 18:32 |
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ricsalt
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19. August 2004 @ 17:35 |
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I have been following this thread and have gone off to read-up on some of this new information.
If I may... "Ironbiter" began the thread with Dvd playback problems- At one point "Braxas" suggested a fix by locating and setting your burner's "DVD-Rom booktype settings".
I have been studying this issue (as in "where does one make these changes") and just noticed that the new Nero upgrade version 6.3.1.20 supports this feature as well as DL media recording. I poked around in my newly upgraded Nero to see if I could find these settings and haven't yet.
I would appreciate anyone who is experienced in these matters to comment.
Richard
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samuels
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21. August 2004 @ 11:33 |
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samuels, I'm sooo very sorry I didn't cover your post -
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yeah sure it can be the media,but what I have found is,that it's the actual standalone player,lenses seem to vary,,,from sensitive to very sensitive,(by this I mean with dust build up)also just one tiny spec of dust or foreign matter on the dvd-r disc causes pixelation
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Not to worry my little Grasshopper, in time you too shall see the light :)
(Translation: As you spend more time here you'll find out how truly important your media really is -)
cheers, "P" [QUOTE]
iv'e been in time, grasshopper,iv'e used the dirtiest of media available and they still work in my standalone and xbox ...*G* and how do you know i'm li'l
the only importance for top grade media is for backing up your personal games I.E xbox..PS2 and PC
i can only apoligise if i don't agree with you....sorry *G*
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ScubaPete
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21. August 2004 @ 13:48 |
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the only importance for top grade media is for backing up your personal games I.E xbox..PS2 and PC
Not a very accurate statement.
When DVD Video burning, the necessity of good media is a major concern. Attempting to use "el Cheapo" media may cause power calabration errors as your PC may find itself unable to even see your disc. Game copying isn't the only "game" in town -
Cheers,
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samuels
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22. August 2004 @ 15:08 |
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[QUOTE]
Not a very accurate statement.
When DVD Video burning, the necessity of good media is a major concern. Attempting to use "el Cheapo" media may cause power calabration errors as your PC may find itself unable to even see your disc. Game copying isn't the only "game" in town -
Cheers, [QUOTE]
:) no problemo,iv'e never encountered that problem,in fact *touch wood* never experienced power calibration errors,i'm a movie buff,as you say games aren't the only thing in town *S*....i grab what i can afford media wise,never had a problem with any "el cheapos"
hang on ...sorry...i lie, the only problem i had is with one from memory it was digi media,my standalone player wasn't designed to play back dvd-r ,but since buying an "el cheapo" dvd player that plays cd,VCD,SVCD,dvd,dvd+/-r and mp3 iv'e never encountered problems others are experiencing in the forums....so primarily.....to avoid these conflicts why not just buy an "el cheapo"standalone player that can handle dvd-r's....how simple is that *S*
i wouldn't mind betting that 95% of people having problems with media is because their machines aren"t dvd-r/+ compatible...my apoligies to those people that do have compatible machines *S*but thats what i found out
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castiljd
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23. August 2004 @ 21:26 |
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I had the same problem. 2 of my dvd players would not play them and some would be choppy sometimes. Since then I have burned with the correct region instead of region free and they play in all my dvd players now with no freezing etc. Try setting the correct region.
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ScubaPete
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28. August 2004 @ 19:00 |
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iv'e never encountered problems others are experiencing in the forums....so primarily.....to avoid these conflicts why not just buy an "el cheapo"standalone player that can handle dvd-r's....how simple is that *S*
With a little more "surfing" of these forums you might possibly find there are many more problems than a "*Power Calibration Error". BTW, I have a CyberHome ($29.99 (USD) (with coupon) standalone player that will play a pepperoni Pizza but will still balk at some "Great AZO" DVD's ($.28ea(USD).
Cheap media freezes, skips, pixelats and may refuse to be recognized :-(
Besides "Freezing", "skips" and pixelations, many times you'll get a "Cyclic Redundancy error" or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won't accept your "cheap" media :-( :(
The inability to burn a DVD or an 18% coaster record has nothing to do at all with your "Cheapo" standalone player but it does have something to do with cheap media. Most of the problem is to get it satisfactory burn.
A Power Calibration Error is still mostly the results of a cheapo media being used. No matter what your standalone, crap is crap. I suggest you read how many here have difficulty playing their stuff on any player.
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I wouldn't mind betting that 95% of people having problems with media is because their machines aren"t dvd-r/+ compatible.
(Ohh Boy, Oooohhh Boy, do the ScubaPete loves get given money (LOL). Gettin' out my calculator to add dis stuff up -)
Well there young fella, just how much did you have in mind ? (heh, heh) - (Ya know, I never ever bet BUT this is JUST TOO GOOD :) I don't wish to break you BUT with those odds, we can get someone here at AfterDawn to hold de money - How about $100.00 even ? would that be OK?
While leaving you to ponder our possible upcoming wager, I'll leave you some parting words,
Nothing is 100%. You'll always get crappy discs that burn like a bandit but it won't be consistent and that's what we need consistency. Memorex has 4 different mfg. producing their produce and there have been reports of as
much as 50% failure rate. A truly fantastic coaster producer. A member here reported 23 coasters from a 50 pack of Memorex.
Oooohhh sorry, I became sidetracked. Those words I promised you - "Buying cheap media is a gamble and like gambling, some pple win and some pple lose - but in the end, it's the house that winds up the ultimate winner.
Cheers all
"P"
PS Samuels, let me know if it was a figure of speech or if you really, really want to bet - :)
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samuels
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29. August 2004 @ 03:19 |
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ScubaPete
you have your ideas,i have mine,and yes it was a figure of speech :),like i said i have only had one disc problem and that was with a digi media,put it into a $89.00AU machine hey presto.....no freezing...pixelation,etc.i have encountered problems with discs sure....but thats before i burn on them,and mind you the majority that i have seen are ritek GO4's....it must be the way they are packed or transited,you can actually see the blemishs in the last (approx) 4 discs at the bottom,but silly old me,not wanting to waste discs,i burn onto them any ways,thats the only trouble i have(my apoligies for not mentioning this before hand)
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giddynar
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29. August 2004 @ 08:25 |
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Just to say you only get what you pay for, cheap disks are Ok if they have been at a better price and have been reduced, say due to only burning at 2x.
I have some Infiniti professional 2x, I think probably Sony, they are cheap £9 per 25, and they are quality, and they burn well.
Also some Verbatim 2x as the same price, excellent disks, it is worth while paying a little bit extra and getting a good burn, rather than wasting the time it takes to copy.
James
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samuels
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29. August 2004 @ 13:36 |
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Just to say you only get what you pay for, cheap disks are Ok if they have been at a better price and have been reduced, say due to only burning at 2x.
I have some Infiniti professional 2x, I think probably Sony, they are cheap £9 per 25, and they are quality, and they burn well.
Also some Verbatim 2x as the same price, excellent disks, it is worth while paying a little bit extra and getting a good burn, rather than wasting the time it takes to copy.[QUOTE]
:) thats why i never seem to have any problems,they are the cheapest discs where i live :) verbatim...sony,and believe it or not ridata isn't availble here,i have to order them in from the mainland,actually i prefer verbatim over ritek,like in my previous post,when you get to about the last 4 discs,they are scratched,blemished etc,but i still perform a burn,(not wanting to waste a disc) *shrugs* to no avail anyrate,because of the blemish, i do get a failed burn
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ScubaPete
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29. August 2004 @ 15:43 |
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samuels,
I don't doubt you have great success using Verbatim's they are in there in the decent list. The problem we face here is when New pple read your post without any names attached they assume the crap media they can buy is what you're talking about. I would like to see where your Digi media comes in ? I wasn't able to find it (generally, not a good sign) perhaps you'll run a disc through DVD Identifier ?
http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
There are those who come here to read and these are the pple I try to explain things too.
I did cheat a bit samuels, I've been here for a while and see many, many pple who's problems are solved by corrective media change. There are those like your fine self who get quality at a good price and there are those who use crap and are lucky for a while. The latter eventually are "stung" when their crap media finally does bite them - But - everyone makes their own choices.
I just try to give the unwary a little education :)
Again, let me know how your Digi stacks up ? Then we'll both know (lol)
Cheers,
"P"
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samuels
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30. August 2004 @ 13:41 |
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ScubaPete:
i will try and find that digimedia disc....i didn't heave it, :) i knew i kept it for a reason.....don't quote me on this as i am not 100% sure,but i think digimedia is one of ridata's generic brand,hopefully when i can find it i can tell you.
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ScubaPete
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30. August 2004 @ 18:26 |
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I was looking all over and would like to find what kind of quality we're talking about -
Give me a hallar when you find it, OK ?
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