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Steve Jobs still hates Blu-ray
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article published on 30 June, 2010
In 2008, Apple CEO Steve Jobs made headlines when he called Blu-ray "a bag of hurt."
At the time, Jobs said: "Blu-ray is just a bag of hurt. It's great to watch the movies, but the licensing of the tech is so complex, we're waiting till things settle down and Blu-ray takes off in the marketplace."
Two years later, Blu-ray has become more mainstream, but Steve Jobs seems to have the ... [ read the full article ]
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2. July 2010 @ 22:33 |
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I agree, only a fool would pay $20 for a BDR; you can get 20 Verbatim 25GB discs for $33 shipped...that is less than $2 each; even high-end 50GB disks go for $10-$13 each depending on how many you get at once.
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2. July 2010 @ 22:36 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
I agree, only a fool would pay $20 for a BDR; you can get 20 Verbatim 25GB discs for $33 shipped...that is less than $2 each; even high-end 50GB disks go for $10-$13 each depending on how many you get at once.
I dunno I can get 15 25GB discs for 30$..... I could get 50DL discs for as much but I like the BR more....
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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2. July 2010 @ 22:40 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Have you seen the new star trek movie? The opening fight scene looks like a war between globs of pixels on a DVD; it looks like it should on bluray.
I don't know why I find this so funny but you actually made me LoL KB...hey wait a second KB...Kevin Butler...naaaaah!
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3. July 2010 @ 01:57 |
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Yeah...you can get cheaper stuff; I would just rather have the peace of mind that a verbatim gives me; 25GB is a lot of data to loose.
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3. July 2010 @ 14:46 |
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Dude needs to lay off the crack .
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3. July 2010 @ 18:23 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Yeah...you can get cheaper stuff; I would just rather have the peace of mind that a verbatim gives me; 25GB is a lot of data to loose.
I remember remarking to Zippy about how cheap big USB HDD were nowadays... but on reflection I find that the loon ;) admittedly had a point... shock horror! (Just kidding Zip.) The blank BR media and burners are getting a lot cheaper too just like blank DVDs did.
So it's up to what you want and it jolts my wagon that Jobs (a euphemism we had as kids for taking a dump) patronisingly dictates that the consumer should have limited choices as far his poots (and other IT devices) are concerned. If I was a Machead I would be asking, "Well, why can't I have BR on my overpriced underpowered status symbol if I want, I paid enough... they (the unwashed) do? Heck, I can hardly play any games on it as it is! It just frotters my clacker!". I guess they would rather bleat, "Charge me more, it looks good!"
You're supposed to be able to edit homemade HD on a Mac, yet you can't burn off a copy to send in the post to play on, say, your grandmother's PS3. Good one Jobbo.
Man, I would love to been a fly on the wall at those Mac forums you hung out at Killer.. dig the spot-on vitriol. Was the ban hammer swung by the fanboy mods? Here's a good one... A few months ago I was listening to the radio and there was this advertising guru being interviewed about his sophisticated research methods. He would subject people to a PET scan and ask them about how they felt about various brands and products. Typically when Macheads were asked to think about the Mac/Apple brand the areas of the brain typically associated with religious reverence would light up like a Christmas tree... I kid you not. Haha.
To those arguing about the quality of 1080p movies. Whilst CG animation looks good in any format it comes down to the mastering of an ordinary movie to make it look good. And that seems to be an art. As evidenced by the excellent BR version of District9 for instance. I've seen it at the movies and I saw it at home on the 50" and both times it looked just fabulous. You will not pick up the difference on a small screen as much and it's most noticeable on medium to long shots where the detail just jumps out.
@elitepunk... seem to remember something about having to load Win XP or 7 under Bootstrap or somesuch to use a BR usb drive on them... but I could be wrong. Don't you reckon having Bootstrap on the Mac is a tacit admission of something anyway? Even my CAD lecturer runs Autodesk's Inventor under it~ a Mac was forced on him by the college. Mac has a policy of offering discount or free products to high-profile situations like unis/colleges and movie/TV shows~ yep, I've seen the actual contract on program called Media Watch here in Oz, "No product shall be shown in a negative light blah blah blah etc....".
Originally posted by RastaDave:
Dude needs to lay off the crack .
Is that the chemical or the plumber's? :P
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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3. July 2010 @ 19:00 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
I heard that damnit ...and thats MR loon to you oh wait you female and smart thats equals hot and awesome so I can;t complain abotu you talking about me LOL
HDs are cheaper but IMO are useless if you can not turn them off(how many on/offs can it take before eating data?)......BR seems to be the better long term option.
Least till flash gets to be 200GB for 30$ a shot then it wont matter if the write cycles are limited.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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4. July 2010 @ 14:37 |
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Originally posted by 6Ripper9:
Originally posted by Interestx:
I've seen great Blu-ray and I've seen so-so Blu-ray.
Just like I've seen great broadcast HD TV and so-so HD TV.
It's certainly not all ' jaw dropping stuff'.
You're right. I bought a full HDTV and Blu-Ray player in December, with mixed results in the movies I've purchased. The best looking HD movies by far are movies like Ice Age, Up!, Wall-E, and so on. New movies such as Transformers 2 look great too, but you take older movies like Rambo and Resevior Dogs, and they look like DVD quality. I've yet to see a Blu-Ray movie with actual actors, not CG characters, blow me away.
Based on my experiences I would have to agree with your assessment regarding old tiles released on Blu-ray. I rented The Godfather on Blu-Ray from Netflix, with expectations for pristine video. To my disappointment, the Blu-ray version looked inferior in quality to the DVD version. Of course that doesn't always hold true. I also rented North by Northwest and was very pleased with the quality. I can only assume that there's no standard for filming the original in high quality film or for some titles degradation of the masters may factor in.
That said, for me there's not a compelling reason to try upgrade all of the older DVD titles with Blu-Ray titles. As for anything newly released, oh yeah I'll buy it on Blu-ray if it's an action movie and is marked at $20 or less... though I usually by them used via Amazon or just wait for a few months for Blockbuster and other video stores to start selling their rentals off.
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5. July 2010 @ 05:41 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
HDs are cheaper but IMO are useless if you can not turn them off(how many on/offs can it take before eating data?)......BR seems to be the better long term option.
Least till flash gets to be 200GB for 30$ a shot then it wont matter if the write cycles are limited.
Awp... two sensible statements as in many posts... you going for a record there Zip?
But I do wonder about the longevity of homeburnt BR discs. With blank DVDs, if you want ones that last more than 10 years you have to get special archive quality ones... and they're rather more expensive.
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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1. August 2010 @ 07:14 |
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Originally posted by SProdigy:
Originally posted by Interestx:
The thing is....he's right.
Blu-ray film sales have grown but have not matched DVD's year on year doubling sales growth each year (and DVD did that for 4yrs straight).
They are indeed a niche high-end item - with some game console support tacked on.
It's also clear that PC Blu-ray optical drives and blank media is going nowhere.
Hard drives simply cannot be beaten for $/gb - and their reliability these days is excellent.
For enthusiasts like myself, Blu-Ray is great. Truth is most people aren't educated enough about HD. There are HD sets out there, but even in restaurants and bars, they are showing SD content stretched/panned and people that know no better say "look at that picture". Bwah. The cable companies are no better either, and face it, some people are too cheap or unknowledgeable to connect their HD set top box to their HDTV via the correct HDMI or component video cables.
It's ignorance that has stagnated the Blu movement. With DVD, just plug in the box and we don't have to rewind tapes! Amazing, let's all get one! That was the mentality; little or no effort for the upgrade, plus great benefits. I'm sure many with DVD players still don't get the full potential use out of them!
I agree Jobs is a dickhead, but BR is still not worth it, I still can't see much difference in picture quality on sets 40 inch and under.
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5. December 2010 @ 11:53 |
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$15 a Month!! wow!! where the hell do you guys live?
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