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Internet will make college irrelevant, says Bill Gates
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article published on 9 August, 2010
Bill Gates, one of the richest men in the world after he co-founded Microsoft in the 70s, has made some interesting comments today in relation to the college experience.
Gates says that soon college educations will be irrelevant, thanks to the Internet.
"The self-motivated learner will be on the web. And there will be far less place-based [college] things...College -- except for the ... [ read the full article ]
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12. August 2010 @ 04:29 |
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Originally posted by lissenup2:
Dumb people for believing Gates or agreeing with him and dumb Bill Gates for saying that.
First, he dropped out of Harvard simply because he was able to steal DOS and sell it off without legal consequence.
Did you just try to validate your claim that college is essential for success by stating that one of the richest men on earth is a college drop-out?
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12. August 2010 @ 06:16 |
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Originally posted by fragrantvagrant:
Gates is correct - all exams are just short term memory tests
EXACTLTY!!!!!!!
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12. August 2010 @ 06:21 |
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Originally posted by SomeBozo:
I would disagree with Gates as much as he has been wrong a few times in the past. "Who would ever need more than 640Kb in a computer?" How would a doctor practice medicine? And the "motivated learner" I would consider far and few between. While i'll be the first to agree college and universities are way over priced. While I think there are a good number of people that need regiment and structure in order to learn and motivate them.
What about someone like me who has an extremely fast learning ability who wasted half his youth going over crap i already knew when i couldve been plotting evil world conquering schemes?
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12. August 2010 @ 07:04 |
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if someone understands illness and the effects of medication and how to cure shouldnt matter if they are a qualified doctor or not.
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12. August 2010 @ 09:21 |
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See? That's exactly my point... In school, I never gotten proper grammar/spelling lessons, either because fellow students/teachers/assistants/ don't know or don't care. On the net? I learned a great deal of lessons just by posting! I thank those grammar/spelling police :)
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and like someone said collage degrees filter out people, which is not right. knowledge is what matters not a bloody piece of paper. i wonder sometimes i do, if this planet got any more ass backwards, if it would spin counter clock wise.
I agree... A lot of smart/intelligent/well qualified people don't have money to go to Ivy League schools. But yeah, the piece of paper from Ivy League school is a prestigious document.
As for labs, chemistry/biology/physics etc., I agree that you will need a physical laboratory to learn the real experience or test out the theories. However, schools will evolve in this information age, it can't stay the same... If you think about it, most text books are outdated so fast that it almost embarrassing to sell them on campus.
I won't say colleges will go away, but there will be changes, big ones, like eliminating useless/outdated/bloated courses.
Peace!
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12. August 2010 @ 14:56 |
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Originally posted by lissenup2:
Originally posted by DXR88:
you people do realize that Medical Science and Chemistry where once practiced by Evil doers and sinners of the period, correct? and that the trade of both where done in secret and in inhuman conditions? they where also done by some of the most well respected entrepreneurs and self motivated individuals of there time.
Collage is a source of Controlled Knowledge, The internet Is the source of all information.
and like someone said collage degrees filter out people, which is not right. knowledge is what matters not a bloody piece of paper. i wonder sometimes i do, if this planet got any more ass backwards, if it would spin counter clock wise.
It must be spinning backwards already when people use "where" when they meant to use "were" and spell college "collage".
Yahoo did a piece a week or so ago on common mis-uses of terms, generally in emails, but in most writing. Afterdawn people really need to read that.
Differences between They're, their and there. Between then and than, etc.
I laugh in sorrow thinking these 'misspellers' out there are beating me out of a good job........clearly this world is spinning backwards.
i could if i wanted to, but i don't. why bother the internet is not a formal place rather a public one. just be happy i don't use text speak, at the least i put my thoughts into words you can understand.
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13. August 2010 @ 02:33 |
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spelling mistakes are everywhere.If i can understand something i don't mind if it has a few minor spelling mistakes.who honestly cares if they spell "their" or "there" its pronounced the same and if you read it out loud no one will noticed anyway.
Edit:whats annoys me is when a program says something stupid like (julien file name not correct).the program is in english and all the writing should be in english.I don't know what the word julien means im not french i didnt install the program to use french words.
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13. August 2010 @ 03:18 |
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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
spelling mistakes are everywhere.If i can understand something i don't mind if it has a few minor spelling mistakes.who honestly cares if they spell "their" or "there" its pronounced the same and if you read it out loud no one will noticed anyway.
Edit:whats annoys me is when a program says something stupid like (julien file name not correct).the program is in english and all the writing should be in english.I don't know what the word julien means im not french i didnt install the program to use french words.
Well I for one mind. And many employers mind as well. Can you honestly say that seeing the wrong word doesn't ruin the flow of a sentence making you re-read it? Bottom line, it's not professional which is why it would cost one any kind of decent, professional job.
And misspellings don't bother you but "julien file name not correct" annoys you? If you knew what was meant by "julien" would you have even understood the message anyways? By the way, I think it's talking about a string type within the program (as in it's technical jargon and not just a French word).
Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
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13. August 2010 @ 03:36 |
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Originally posted by SoulGLOW:
Originally posted by SomeBozo:
I would disagree with Gates as much as he has been wrong a few times in the past. "Who would ever need more than 640Kb in a computer?" How would a doctor practice medicine? And the "motivated learner" I would consider far and few between. While i'll be the first to agree college and universities are way over priced. While I think there are a good number of people that need regiment and structure in order to learn and motivate them.
What about someone like me who has an extremely fast learning ability who wasted half his youth going over crap i already knew when i couldve been plotting evil world conquering schemes?
I'm half tempted to ask if you so fast and bright why do you need someone else to validate your point, but won't ;)
Sure there will be exceptions but I would think they will be much less then the norm. People are event driven and need something to push them along, no matter how bright you are. I knew a few people that worked at microsoft who have no degree, or at least when i first started working there. Back then BBS were popular and some people wrote and developed code and libraries and put them on the BBS forums. My friends received visitors saying they from Microsoft and would be interested in having them interview for position at microsoft. Or like the dude on my last team that learned SQL Server when he was 8 years old, finished high school and started working for Microsoft at 18 he knew SQL forwards and back and could get stuff to run faster than anyone else could for complex queries. Do people or can people learn without going to school, sure, but my point was this is probably not the norm. I might suggest many even on this website are not the norm either, the norm for most college or other young people needing to learn most likely will not be on a site like this discussing topics like this...
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13. August 2010 @ 04:16 |
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I knew a guy in highschool that couldnt do maths or spell properly.the schools computer computer maintenance guy took him aside cause he saw the guy working on a computer and offered him training and part time work involving computers.the guys now a computer programmer.learning is important at an early age but once you get to a certain age and know all the basic skills (ect maths,english,basic science,logic) the need for learning gets less.I've known people that are above average intelligence complete school at 16 or 17 including their final exams.I've seen a dopey guy thats not well educated find a blocked fuel injecter in my mums old car.thats after taking the car to 5 different well known mechanics that all said the car doesn't have a problem.
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13. August 2010 @ 10:11 |
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It's pretty much like the show Heroes without the special powers. Trust me, everyone of us is good at something, just that some of us have "better" skills than other, like Skylar :)
School is still a fundamental medium to unlock our potential (reading/writing/arithmetic/school lunch endurance/bullying etc.) Then to polish our potential, we have to to colleges/universities. Some people are natural, even they party all day long and they can control their powers. Some people are just slow, never unlock anything... Well, it used to be that way, until we have the internet :) Now, with the vast knowledge at your fingertips, you can polish your skills pretty much anonymously :) Of course, with your powers hidden, it's pretty hard to show off (unlike those Ivy League men/women, they are certified superheroes, super villains, or plain super pricks with money). However, once you do, through faith or luck, you're the hero :)
Peace!
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13. August 2010 @ 12:58 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
It's pretty much like the show Heroes without the special powers. Trust me, everyone of us is good at something, just that some of us have "better" skills than other, like Skylar :)
School is still a fundamental medium to unlock our potential (reading/writing/arithmetic/school lunch endurance/bullying etc.) Then to polish our potential, we have to to colleges/universities. Some people are natural, even they party all day long and they can control their powers. Some people are just slow, never unlock anything... Well, it used to be that way, until we have the internet :) Now, with the vast knowledge at your fingertips, you can polish your skills pretty much anonymously :) Of course, with your powers hidden, it's pretty hard to show off (unlike those Ivy League men/women, they are certified superheroes, super villains, or plain super pricks with money). However, once you do, through faith or luck, you're the hero :)
i do hope there was a point to all that....working to help the special people understand that in everyone there's a super hero eh.
oh, please don't tell the kid with down syndrome he can fly if he wears a red cape, I'm betting that wouldn't go over to well.
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15. August 2010 @ 05:06 |
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Originally posted by SomeBozo:
Originally posted by SoulGLOW:
Originally posted by SomeBozo:
I would disagree with Gates as much as he has been wrong a few times in the past. "Who would ever need more than 640Kb in a computer?" How would a doctor practice medicine? And the "motivated learner" I would consider far and few between. While i'll be the first to agree college and universities are way over priced. While I think there are a good number of people that need regiment and structure in order to learn and motivate them.
What about someone like me who has an extremely fast learning ability who wasted half his youth going over crap i already knew when i couldve been plotting evil world conquering schemes?
I'm half tempted to ask if you so fast and bright why do you need someone else to validate your point, but won't ;)
Sure there will be exceptions but I would think they will be much less then the norm. People are event driven and need something to push them along, no matter how bright you are. I knew a few people that worked at microsoft who have no degree, or at least when i first started working there. Back then BBS were popular and some people wrote and developed code and libraries and put them on the BBS forums. My friends received visitors saying they from Microsoft and would be interested in having them interview for position at microsoft. Or like the dude on my last team that learned SQL Server when he was 8 years old, finished high school and started working for Microsoft at 18 he knew SQL forwards and back and could get stuff to run faster than anyone else could for complex queries. Do people or can people learn without going to school, sure, but my point was this is probably not the norm. I might suggest many even on this website are not the norm either, the norm for most college or other young people needing to learn most likely will not be on a site like this discussing topics like this...
Hey!! you forgot to validate my point!!
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15. August 2010 @ 07:10 |
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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
spelling mistakes are everywhere.If i can understand something i don't mind if it has a few minor spelling mistakes.who honestly cares if they spell "their" or "there" its pronounced the same and if you read it out loud no one will noticed anyway.
Edit:whats annoys me is when a program says something stupid like (julien file name not correct).the program is in english and all the writing should be in english.I don't know what the word julien means im not french i didnt install the program to use french words.
Their and there aren't spelling mistakes it would be grammar.
See their would be used like : their box is here.
There would be used like this: there is an item here.
You'll probably find Julien isn't French but Latin.
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21. August 2010 @ 03:40 |
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I would think some things you would need proper schooling, Medical, Chemistry, Physics especially anything to do with Nuclear, other than that you could learn just as well if not better than O.J.T. On the Job Training, if only companies and organizations would let you.
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