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Microsoft founder Allen sues Google, Apple, eBay and many more

article published on 29 August, 2010

Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft, has begun a campaign of patent infringement lawsuits against companies ranging from YouTube and Facebook to eBay and Office Depot. Allen's patents were originally granted to his company, Interval Media, which shut down in 2006. The company w "We recognize that innovation has a value, and patents are the way to protect that," said a spokesman for ... [ read the full article ]

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29. August 2010 @ 18:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
seriously? I had to read it 2 times to understand what the hell he was suing.

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Allen's patents were originally granted to his company, Interval Media, which shut down in 2006. The company w
What? Did Candlejack catch your t
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29. August 2010 @ 21:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Funny how NON of the websites of the companies getting sued are
running IIS. I guess MS made sure they were not suing someone who
supports them.
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29. August 2010 @ 23:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I kinda understand why some sites who reported on this didnt give full info, Its confusing as hellO_O
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29. August 2010 @ 23:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
NetFlix uses "Silverlight" to deliver video content :)
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30. August 2010 @ 13:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Sameer5316:
NetFlix uses "Silverlight" to deliver video content :)
I think you need that and netflix software to watch it on pc.

as for watching it on console, all you need is the disc(wii/ps3)

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31. August 2010 @ 11:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I had to take a moment to stop laughing at the absurdity of this lawsuit. Has anyone considered suing the U.S. Patent Office for authorizing these patents in the first place? I think there's a far better chance of that suit succeeding over this ridiculous farce. LOL
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31. August 2010 @ 14:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm no lawyer (thank God!) but I thought you could only patent a product or device, not an concept or idea?
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31. August 2010 @ 14:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Apparently Paul Allen doesn't have enough money already . . .

Greedy bastard !!
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31. August 2010 @ 15:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The question is why was the patent granted in the first place? Never should have been.
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31. August 2010 @ 17:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you can patent a concept or idea of a product or device. but they do allow patents of non physical things or procedures. why i have no idea.

patents of a thing should allow processes. such as paper. anyone should be able to make paper. but methods for making different types could be patented.

they have a huge team of people that are suppose to honestly look over this stuff. i think the "lazy" worker has hit the patent office now. that opens a whole new thread...
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31. August 2010 @ 18:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Hyasuma:
seriously? I had to read it 2 times to understand what the hell he was suing.
I didn't even have to read it through to get the gist. He is suing anything and everyone he can. He doesn't even care if 90% get thrown out he still has 10%. Companies ought to be intimidated by a ton gorilla with rabies. Small companies might pay M$ just to keep it safe. It is kind of a good move for M$. They haven't really innovated in many years so this ought to pass the time.

Originally posted by EIMB1999:
I'm no lawyer (thank God!) but I thought you could only patent a product or device, not an concept or idea?
You are correct. Patents only last a short time in the US. Ideas can be copyrighted and they last for a century. You can see which side the lobbyists were on those 2 issues.
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31. August 2010 @ 19:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Its called Insurance, and short on cash. He's deside to cash in, plain and simple..documentation is the key. If he's got that, everyones knows the rest.
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31. August 2010 @ 20:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Has anyone considered suing the U.S. Patent Office for authorizing these patents in the first place?
That is the only real question here. If he has a patent and companies are infringing upon it, then they must compensate him. Period! The U.S. Patent Office is the only one to blame because clearly they lost their minds the day this was presented.
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31. August 2010 @ 22:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by Hyasuma:
seriously? I had to read it 2 times to understand what the hell he was suing.
I didn't even have to read it through to get the gist. He is suing anything and everyone he can. He doesn't even care if 90% get thrown out he still has 10%. Companies ought to be intimidated by a ton gorilla with rabies. Small companies might pay M$ just to keep it safe. It is kind of a good move for M$. They haven't really innovated in many years so this ought to pass the time.

Originally posted by EIMB1999:
I'm no lawyer (thank God!) but I thought you could only patent a product or device, not an concept or idea?
You are correct. Patents only last a short time in the US. Ideas can be copyrighted and they last for a century. You can see which side the lobbyists were on those 2 issues.


Actually you have that in reverse, copyrights are limited, patents are ongoing. You can will a patent to someone, you cannot will a copyright. That's why you see some older music hitting the public domain each year to be royalty-free, the copyright ran out. I believe copyrights generally last about 30 years on average.
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1. September 2010 @ 01:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Using this kind of logic, no one could ever APPLY for a patent because applying for a patent is ACTUALLY PATENTED. er.. ugh?
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1. September 2010 @ 03:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
GO ALLEN GO. Close em down or make them pay. Make steve jobs pay for his sins (for inventing apple...lol). But dont punish GOOGLE. Google have much more to offer than apple.

Id like to see Paul Allen sue apple for billions. That would be my happiest day.
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1. September 2010 @ 15:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
He's still upset from his Charter Communications deal...
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2. September 2010 @ 07:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This reminds of that selfish kid in a playground that doesn't let anyone else play with his toys..

Clinging onto a concept simply because you're bored or money or whatever? Maybe he just thinks that if Google release their OS, It'll be better than M$ OS... and it just happens that these other companies also infringe upon his patents (yay more money for me, probably what he's thinking). Such a petty lawsuit could end so many companies... what a waste of time.. no wonder the economy struggles to survive...
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3. September 2010 @ 11:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by catfreak:
Apparently Paul Allen doesn't have enough money already . . .

Greedy bastard !!
He doesn't need the money, even with the downturn he's still worth at least $10 billion. And he's pledged to give most of it away when he dies.

What I've heard is that he wants recognition in the industry as an innovator. Which is odd, since most of these patents were done by employees of his and he only owns them since he was their employer.
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3. September 2010 @ 17:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Same sort of bullcrap as patenting genes. Patenting natural things.... come on!

And yeah, copyrights last longer. it's ridiculous how long they go for.

This has gone too far, people will have nothing to work with at this rate. You don't create in a vacuum. It's suffocating and corrupt.

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

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4. September 2010 @ 22:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
QUOTE by rick930

?I had to take a moment to stop laughing at the absurdity of this lawsuit. Has anyone considered suing the U.S. Patent Office for authorizing these patents in the first place? I think there's a far better chance of that suit succeeding over this ridiculous farce. LOL?

People should they have gotten way off track pretty soon there will be a patient on breathing and we?ll all have to pay or hold our breaths.


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?I'm no lawyer (thank God!) but I thought you could only patent a product or device, not an concept or idea??

Just about anything can be patient these days but it also takes time to do so with lots of red tape and expense. For the average Joe getting a patient is almost impossible but for big Corps no problem they apply for all sorts of frivolous things just banking for situations like this.


The goal here is to settle out of court typical extortion tactics used so commonly today. If we had common sense in our system this would be thrown out and save everyone money but our system today is void of such justice. Of course a good lawyer would argue that!

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4. September 2010 @ 23:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Hyasuma:
seriously? I had to read it 2 times to understand what the hell he was suing.
Huh, like we really need to understand what this guy is suing for. That's like Steve Jobs being buddy buddy with Adobe demanding Flash on his products. Guess what, not going to happen!! Same thing for this guy. If he thinks he's going to sue everything out of oblivion, think again, it's NOT going to happen. Complete BS if you ask me.

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18. November 2010 @ 10:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh wow..... patented thought....

Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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