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iTunes costs almost $1 billion to run per year

article published on 10 September, 2010

According to a new report from asymco, Apple is now paying over $900 million per year to run the iTunes Store. Apple now has to budget $75 million per month towards operational expenses, and the site says that number may actually be higher if book transactions are taken into account. Asymco says the expenses are much higher than in 2009, where monthly expenses barely exceeded $30 million per month. ... [ read the full article ]

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22. September 2010 @ 09:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mez:
Foobar is a player for audiophiles. It has tools and plug-ins for double blind testing transcoding etc. I don't use it often. Their forum has many true audio experts. If you really like WA you may not like MM. MM has a busy user interface vs WA's minimal interface. It is too busy for some persons. What MM does best is handling huge libraries, they have a great disk burn routine. The old itunes of 5 years back choked on 2K of tunes. MM back then thought that was nothing. Since then they have made the back end much more powerful. MM uses a SQL back end and is good for tens of thousands of tunes.

Even a moron can pretty much do even fairly complex burns. The next version V4 may have the third best ripper right behind dbpoweramp and EAC. It is written in VB and has a way to incorporate VB scripts as part of its own code. Users who are also programmers build these routines which can be incredibly sophisticated. This is an example of a mid way complex mod. You pick an artist then run this report. It builds a web page containing tunes that have been sold but you do not have in your library. There are links to where you can buy and usually listen to a sample of that tune. I have seen scripts that alter the way you sync your portable. Usually rating are pushed to your portable but you can have the portable push to MM. Obviously you can't have it both ways. I bet the mods/scripts count in the hundreds. Oh yes and on topic the out of the box auto sync routine has 4-6 tabs, I can't remember how many. If you sync a play list and you add/delete tunes from it, it will update your device the next time around. Sometime it does forget the first time around but usually by the second time it syncs up they will be the same. What do you want for a free version??? Even the paid for version is cheap. The free version only have the burning speed crippled.
Coolant.

Ah yes, I love EAC.

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

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22. September 2010 @ 10:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It is in a class by its self for free rippers. MM may give it a run for its money it that regard in the near future.
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22. September 2010 @ 12:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The author had copyright hassles and had to remove one small minor aspect that would have made it, for want of a better expression, 100% perfect. That's why as well he/she has never updated it after all these years. But strangely, has he ever needed to? Maybe an interface update I suppose.

I don't know of any other program that actually analyses the individual characteristics of one's reader in regards to reproducing a CD exactly. I put a CD that I thought was lost to playback in it and managed to resurrect it.

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

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Zilog Z80 CPU, 32KB RAM (16K+16K cartridge), video processor 6847, 2KB video RAM, 16 colours (text mode), 5.25" FDD
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22. September 2010 @ 13:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What make those 3 so reliable is that they use an outside database Accurip. By design, optical disks are far more difficult to read than you would expect. It would take too long to explain why, except to say optical drives for computers are required not to have certain tools in their firmware that all players have. For that reason, special care is required to get an exact copy. Anyone not using one of the three are sure not to have exact copies of their CDs, even if they verify the disk. Over the years, I have had running battles with persons using apps like Nero to copy their disk but were not happy with the result but defend their technique till they are blue in the face. They blame it on firmware, their drive, but never Nero.

Anything that uses accurip will either create an exact copy or will provide a warning for each track that is not perfect. dbPowerAmp user accurip for many years before EAC. I rate dbPA superior in most aspects but it is a paid for app. Where it fails to be as good is now, it relys or Accurip too much so that the rip can be much faster. It REALLY needs to alter its behavior if the CD is not found in accurip which it does not. dbPA uses burst mode which is lighting fast and usually is fine. If accurip says the track is not right it cycles through more modes till it works OK of it gives up resulting in a good as it gets track with an error next to it. It should default to secure mode if the CD is not in accurip.

I am too conservative to use MM to rip even if when has accurip. I do use it to burn all but an occasional archive CD. Then I use a dbPA burn utility.
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22. September 2010 @ 14:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Stuff Nero, the only thing good about it is it's title. I ditched it years ago when it kept trashing expensive Verbatum dual-layer DVD blanks. I've cheerfully used Imgburn since amongst others.

I understand what you're referring to before. It is detailed in the EAC pages ~ the firmwear that deals with error correction etc. The Accurip database is one thing but (just for the benefit of other readers) EAC asks you to test a pristine and also a non-pristine CD in your player for comparison as well ~ do the other ones you mention do that too?

If you direct those persons that you mention to that relevant info on the EAC pages and they still don't want to use a free app (with, say, LAME for MP3 conversion)then what hope is there for them?

Hopefully on topic, I was in 3D CAD class tonight and one of the other students was banging on about how convenient iTunes was for finding artist's music and whatnot. "Why do you even bother" I asked, "when you can just search TPB and use uTorrent?". "Probably be better quality and all", I added. Needless to say he was surprised. Haha.


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Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

DSE VZ300-
Zilog Z80 CPU, 32KB RAM (16K+16K cartridge), video processor 6847, 2KB video RAM, 16 colours (text mode), 5.25" FDD

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22. September 2010 @ 15:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You GOT THAT RIGHT! Why do they need to listen to you when they know every damn thing there is to know about what they are trying to do but, it just is not working out today.

I believe the pristine disc test is accurip not EAC. Because I tested my drives with dbPowerAmp I wasn't asked to run the test with EAC. I had forgotten about the test. I believe the secure mode just reads a block many times and keeps checking the CRC making sure it stays constant. That is why burst mode is so much faster. It only reads once. That is fine if the CD is in accurip. Maybe dbPA will allow you to force modes but it was easier just to switch apps.

If you want to see some cool info check out the first sticky in the audio forum. You are the inspiration for the new stuff written today. Thanks to your inspiration I sure wasted the day on that crap! Take care I really need to get to work now!
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22. September 2010 @ 15:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cheers, will do, have a killer day Mez.

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

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Zilog Z80 CPU, 32KB RAM (16K+16K cartridge), video processor 6847, 2KB video RAM, 16 colours (text mode), 5.25" FDD
 
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