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GHSA endorses total cell phone ban during driving
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 26 September, 2010
The Goverrnors Highway Safety Association has endorsed a total ban on mobile phone usage while driving, making their decision after carefully analyzing the results of a study by the American Journal of Public Health.
AJPH's findings saw a 28 percent rise in "distracted driving fatalities" from 2005 to 2008.
Furthermore, the report showed 16,000 vehicle-related fatalities from 2001 ... [ read the full article ]
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26. September 2010 @ 23:34 |
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Most of these people would have managed to kill themselves and others in some alternate way had the not been texting. Why should the rest of us suffer because of those who clearly can't multitask and still try anyway? Sorry but fsck you, if I wanted to live in a police-state I've move to China or Australia.
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biglo30
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27. September 2010 @ 00:04 |
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Originally posted by hikaricor:
Most of these people would have managed to kill themselves and others in some alternate way had the not been texting. Why should the rest of us suffer because of those who clearly can't multitask and still try anyway? Sorry but fsck you, if I wanted to live in a police-state I've move to China or Australia.
I can understand the texting and like you said some people really can't multitask, but removing the use of the phone entirely while driving?
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27. September 2010 @ 00:06 |
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Originally posted by hikaricor:
Most of these people would have managed to kill themselves and others in some alternate way had the not been texting. Why should the rest of us suffer because of those who clearly can't multitask and still try anyway? Sorry but fsck you, if I wanted to live in a police-state I've move to China or Australia.
The problem is not the texting idiots, but those they run into.
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27. September 2010 @ 00:43 |
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Good ban em all, nothing i hate worse than driving behind a moron that's texting.
besides its not called a cell text, its called a cell PHONE as in ring ring, hi howya doin. its a lot easier to you should try it.
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27. September 2010 @ 01:02 |
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I think as long as I drive responsibly and don't get myself and other people killed, it's no one's business what I do while I'm driving. It's not just texting they want to ban cell phone usage in cars completely which is god damn ridiculous.
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27. September 2010 @ 02:00 |
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Originally posted by hikaricor:
I think as long as I drive responsibly and don't get myself and other people killed, it's no one's business what I do while I'm driving.
So a person should only be banned from using a cellphone while driving after he demonstrates irresponsibility in doing so? Sometimes it's a little too late to react at that point...
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27. September 2010 @ 04:39 |
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This is not a ban on texting, it is a ban on phones, and it does not even seem to have an exception for hands-free use.
Mythbusters had an episode where they compared talking on the phone (without a hands-free device) with drunk driving...the drunk drivers did better...and that was without texting.
"I am careful when driving and talking into the handset or texting"..."I am careful when driving drunk"...is there any real difference between those two statements? Yes...driving while talking on the handset is more dangerous than driving drunk, and texting is even more dangerous than that.
Personally, I have taken several advanced driving courses, I drive a mid-engine car with racing suspension and breaks, and it is actually safer for me to drive at 90MPH than it is for a large van to drive at 60MPH...but that does not mean that I get an exception, and I still have to drive slow to avoid tickets. This is how driving works...everything is set to the worst driver in the worst vehicle under the worst conditions.
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27. September 2010 @ 07:12 |
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Originally posted by hikaricor:
I think as long as I drive responsibly and don't get myself and other people killed, it's no one's business what I do while I'm driving.
That's why the decision is not left to you. You're not the best judge of whether you driving responsibly or not, after all something like 85% of people think there an above average driver.
I have the same argument with people in the UK about speeding when they say "I'm perfectly safe driving at 90 mph instead of 70mph". I assume that if they make that statement that they have done research on accident rates at the different speeds to show there is no difference or perhaps they have tested their response times to ensure they are better than average. Unsurprisingly I am usually disappointed.
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27. September 2010 @ 09:25 |
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Basically for all those still wanting to text/phone and drive; suck it up. People's arrogance has made this a reality whether you are good at it or not, it's now irrelevant and you can claim police state, but then someone hits you before these laws put into place, then you raid on police when there's no charge. Now they can charge people and you whine, well suck it up. No one is saying you can't use the phone to text/talk while driving, they just stating if you get caught, then you pay with time or a fine. If you are so good as you claim, then don't get caught, but don't disrespect others either for those that take the time to drive as safe as possible, without influences.
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27. September 2010 @ 12:29 |
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Naturally everyone likes to imagine that it's just 'the others' and that 'they' are perfectly capable of multi-tasking safely.
Well b.s.
You have no 'right' or 'freedom' to kill and maim people because you refuse to pull over & take or make a call or text.
All of one's concentration should be given to driving.
It's far too potentially dangerous an activity to not do so -
and many of our road problems originate from idiots who refuse to accept that fact.....especially idiot young men
(if you really must be a moron on the road go ride a motorbike, at least that way you're most likely to only kill or maim yourself)
The sad truth in this is all those sneering at these kind of rules and at those famous 'others' who have caused a bad crash doing this sort of thing would rapidly change their minds the instant it happened to them or one of their family or friends.
The biggest joke of all is that pretending this law is some sort of totalitarian measure (communist China, ffs).
That's just ludicrous.
Here in the UK, since Dec 2003, we have managed perfectly well since using a mobile phone (Americans say cell phone) was banned, accidents have fallen and there are people walking around today who are alive & healthy who otherwise probably would not have been.
There is an identifiable additional serious risk and if you cause a serious accident you can lose your licence to drive and be jailed.
http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/info/mobile_phone_report.pdf
When (heaven forbid) it happens to one of your kids be sure to let us know how that silly reflex anti-authority feeling is running, eh?
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27. September 2010 @ 13:26 |
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Oh to never be stuck behind some moron yacking on their cell phone again...Dare to dream!
And yeah I think the comparison to drunk driving is spot on! Also hands free still allows them to drift off in conversation so should not be allowed either. Maybe some can handle it but the vast majority can't (no matter what they think!).
Drive or don't...
Just my $0.02,
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27. September 2010 @ 13:55 |
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This law won't stop anyone. We have a law in NJ banning cell phones to the ear (they allow headsets), but i still see many drivers still talking on their cell phones.
Unless they make real stiff fines, no one is going to listen anyway and we will still have many fatalities.
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27. September 2010 @ 15:45 |
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Cell phone use while driving in California must be hands-free, not banned totally. ---Chikn
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27. September 2010 @ 16:47 |
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Drive or don't...
could be the ad campaign slogan for this :D
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27. September 2010 @ 18:46 |
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Originally posted by dEwMe:
Also hands free still allows them to drift off in conversation so should not be allowed either. Maybe some can handle it but the vast majority can't (no matter what they think!).
Drive or don't...
Based on your opinion, people driving cars shouldn't be able to talk to passengers in their vehicles either. The could drift off in conversation and suddenly cause random things to explode! We need to move to ban speaking of any sort while in a motor vehicle.
*eye roll*
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27. September 2010 @ 19:34 |
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I understand why people are pissed off at this(so am I sense I have a cell then again who doesn't) this said they endorse this and not exactly into Law yet. But if This IS accepted into law these aholes will endanger lives even farther. People who are in accidents wouldn't be allowed to call 911 when in an accident, they themselves can't call their bosses if they are late to work and the list goes on.
If this is put into law for the whole US I doubt it will pass I doubt not even Obama or G.W. Bush would allow this law especially if their would be exceptions people would be upset and would prob go insane.
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27. September 2010 @ 20:24 |
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here in ontario, canada, we have that ban on using cell phone while driving but is perfectly legal to use that cell phone in the car when you have pulled off to the side of the road. the enforcement of that ban started this past february.
Tristan, i don't have a cell phone nor do i want 1.
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27. September 2010 @ 20:28 |
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We need to move to ban speaking of any sort while in a motor vehicle.
*eye roll* Originally posted by hikaricor
Lord, I wish!!!
God knows how many times I've told my wife to shut her trap, I'm drivin'! Never works. :(
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27. September 2010 @ 22:59 |
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Australia already does it, why is it so hard to pull over to ring/text somone? I think that you should be able to use a hands free device while driving, but texting is mostly a bad idea. the other day i saw a lady smoking and texting while driving with her kids in the back of her manual car, she would reshufle everything to change gear. i can understand how some people can do it, and this isnt targeted at you. id be more woried about the idiots who cant talk and drive and crash into you.
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28. September 2010 @ 11:31 |
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Originally posted by Run4two:
God knows how many times I've told my wife to shut her trap, I'm drivin'! Never works. :(
Bahaha! You and me both, sir, you and me both.
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dEwMe
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28. September 2010 @ 12:26 |
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Originally posted by hikaricor:
Based on your opinion, people driving cars shouldn't be able to talk to passengers in their vehicles either. The could drift off in conversation and suddenly cause random things to explode! We need to move to ban speaking of any sort while in a motor vehicle.
*eye roll*
K maybe the hands free ban would be a bit extreme but I have seen a few morons over the years so in depth in conversation with passengers they were all over the road. So lol...
Anyway the morons in a trance talking on their cells cause me way more grief than someone not wearing their seatbelt, yet by law I am forced to wear mine or get a ticket. I think banning non-hands free cell phone use while operating any motor vehicle would be a great idea.
Just my $0.02,
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28. September 2010 @ 17:51 |
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if This IS accepted into law these aholes will endanger lives even farther. People who are in accidents wouldn't be allowed to call 911 when in an accident, they themselves can't call their bosses if they are late to work and the list goes on.
Where did you get that nonsense from?
Being in an accident is not 'driving'.
Obviously the purpose of this is to make driving safer and to get people to stop routinely using their phones whilst driving.
It has nothing to do with stopping people reporting an emergency (that accident you mentioned) or letting their boss know they've been in one and so will be late.
The point in the UK is that if you have to make a call or take a call, pull over & stop driving.
Don't be so silly.
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29. September 2010 @ 02:17 |
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I see idiots on the road everytime i drive.some of them are using a mobile phone,some look trashed and some look young and inexperienced,some just arn't paying attention.personally dont care if someones using a cellphone and driving aslong as they are paying attention to the road and not doing stupid things.
@scarface43 i thought it was illegal to smoke in a car with children under 16 in it???I'm in australia and i thought they changed the laws regarding that a few years ago.
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ddp
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29. September 2010 @ 12:58 |
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xboxdvl2, we have that smoking ban here in ontario for the past year or so.
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29. September 2010 @ 17:08 |
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edited by ddp, like hell anyone is ever going to tell me I can't smoke in my car.
I don't care who's riding along, they can just deal with it. :p
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