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Lite on Drive Flashing
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Bookable
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10. October 2010 @ 15:00 |
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First of all is there a way to flash a lite-on drive without buying anything, sodering or anything.
If not then lets say i wanted to get a new drive, could i get like a samsung drive and put it in my xbox that i originally had a lite on drive? Will that cause problems?
I want to make it so my xbox can play burned games but i got a lite-on drive. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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10. October 2010 @ 15:45 |
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Originally posted by Bookable:
First of all is there a way to flash a lite-on drive without buying anything, sodering or anything.
No.
Originally posted by Bookable:
If not then lets say i wanted to get a new drive, could i get like a samsung drive and put it in my xbox that i originally had a lite on drive? Will that cause problems?
You would still need to cut traces and either solder a swith and resistor, or purchase the Vampire or Probe 2 to dump the full firmware. At that point you could spoof the DVDkey to the Samsung but would be pointless because there is firmware for LiteOn.
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Bookable
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10. October 2010 @ 15:55 |
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Originally posted by leerage:
Originally posted by Bookable:
First of all is there a way to flash a lite-on drive without buying anything, sodering or anything.
No.
Originally posted by Bookable:
If not then lets say i wanted to get a new drive, could i get like a samsung drive and put it in my xbox that i originally had a lite on drive? Will that cause problems?
You would still need to cut traces and either solder a swith and resistor, or purchase the Vampire or Probe 2 to dump the full firmware. At that point you could spoof the DVDkey to the Samsung but would be pointless because there is firmware for LiteOn.
well i had a samsung m825 or something like that and all i needed was a sata cable and i was able to flash it, are you saying that the lite-on firmware is not in the drive but in the xbox?
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dagdaniel
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10. October 2010 @ 16:16 |
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Originally posted by Bookable:
Originally posted by leerage:
Originally posted by Bookable:
First of all is there a way to flash a lite-on drive without buying anything, sodering or anything.
No.
Originally posted by Bookable:
If not then lets say i wanted to get a new drive, could i get like a samsung drive and put it in my xbox that i originally had a lite on drive? Will that cause problems?
You would still need to cut traces and either solder a swith and resistor, or purchase the Vampire or Probe 2 to dump the full firmware. At that point you could spoof the DVDkey to the Samsung but would be pointless because there is firmware for LiteOn.
well i had a samsung m825 or something like that and all i needed was a sata cable and i was able to flash it, are you saying that the lite-on firmware is not in the drive but in the xbox?
no, it's in the drive however it's more difficult to obtain with lite-on's
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10. October 2010 @ 16:16 |
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Originally posted by Bookable:
well i had a samsung m825 or something like that and all i needed was a sata cable and i was able to flash it, are you saying that the lite-on firmware is not in the drive but in the xbox?
LiteOns aren't as easy as Samsungs. For LiteOns you'll need to cut traces on the drive and then either probe it with a Vampire or Probe2. You can also solder a switch and resistor to the drive to get the firmware.
Here is a tutorial using the vampire.
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Bookable
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10. October 2010 @ 16:33 |
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Originally posted by dagdaniel:
Originally posted by Bookable:
Originally posted by leerage:
Originally posted by Bookable:
First of all is there a way to flash a lite-on drive without buying anything, sodering or anything.
No.
Originally posted by Bookable:
If not then lets say i wanted to get a new drive, could i get like a samsung drive and put it in my xbox that i originally had a lite on drive? Will that cause problems?
You would still need to cut traces and either solder a swith and resistor, or purchase the Vampire or Probe 2 to dump the full firmware. At that point you could spoof the DVDkey to the Samsung but would be pointless because there is firmware for LiteOn.
well i had a samsung m825 or something like that and all i needed was a sata cable and i was able to flash it, are you saying that the lite-on firmware is not in the drive but in the xbox?
no, it's in the drive however it's more difficult to obtain with lite-on's
What do you mean "its more difficult to obtain with lite-on's" i just want to get a samsung drive off the internet (one that i know i can flash) and put that in my xbox so i can flash it the easier way. Will that work?
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10. October 2010 @ 16:37 |
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Originally posted by Bookable:
What do you mean "its more difficult to obtain with lite-on's" i just want to get a samsung drive off the internet (one that i know i can flash) and put that in my xbox so i can flash it the easier way. Will that work?
You have to obtain the firmware of the LiteOn drive to get the DVDkey. Without the DVDkey, you can't play games. Yes, you could use a Samsung drive, but once you get the firmware of the LiteOn drive it is just as easy as Samsung to flash. The only hard part about the LiteOn is obtaining the firmware. See my response (post #5) for a tutorial on how to get the LiteOn firmware.
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Bookable
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10. October 2010 @ 16:55 |
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Originally posted by leerage:
Originally posted by Bookable:
What do you mean "its more difficult to obtain with lite-on's" i just want to get a samsung drive off the internet (one that i know i can flash) and put that in my xbox so i can flash it the easier way. Will that work?
You have to obtain the firmware of the LiteOn drive to get the DVDkey. Without the DVDkey, you can't play games. Yes, you could use a Samsung drive, but once you get the firmware of the LiteOn drive it is just as easy as Samsung to flash. The only hard part about the LiteOn is obtaining the firmware. See my response (post #5) for a tutorial on how to get the LiteOn firmware.
umm, lol i dont know how to get to post #5, could you give me a link
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Bookable
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10. October 2010 @ 18:58 |
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i seen the link "http://www.elitemodscene.com/wiki/index.php/Tutorial_for_dumping_Lite-ON_firmware" but i want to make it easy without buying some third party stuff, can i do that? or is there an easy way of doing it like the samsung one?
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10. October 2010 @ 20:39 |
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Originally posted by Bookable:
i seen the link "http://www.elitemodscene.com/wiki/index.php/Tutorial_for_dumping_Lite-ON_firmware" but i want to make it easy without buying some third party stuff, can i do that? or is there an easy way of doing it like the samsung one?
No, there is no easy way. Cut traces then solder a switch and resistor to the drive or use the Vampire/Probe 2.
^ That would be how if you didn't use the Vampire/Probe 2.
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Bookable
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10. October 2010 @ 21:42 |
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so why wouldn't it be easier to just go out and get a samsung drive?
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10. October 2010 @ 22:19 |
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Originally posted by Bookable:
so why wouldn't it be easier to just go out and get a samsung drive?
Lol... I don't know how to explain this any easier for you man. You can't just buy a Samsung drive and pop it into your console and away you go. Your LiteOn drive contains a DVDkey which is married to your XBOX 360 console. You have to dump the firmware of the LiteOn drive first to obtain your unique DVDkey. Without the DVDkey, all your Samsung drive would do in your XBOX 360 is play DVDs.
Bottom line is you have to obtain your XBOX 360s unique DVDkey from the LiteOn firmware.
Honestly, once you get the firmware dumped from the LiteOn, flashing a LiteOn is just as easy as Samsung. The only hard part is getting your firmware/DVDkey from the LiteOn drive.
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Bookable
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11. October 2010 @ 16:10 |
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Originally posted by leerage:
Originally posted by Bookable:
so why wouldn't it be easier to just go out and get a samsung drive?
Lol... I don't know how to explain this any easier for you man. You can't just buy a Samsung drive and pop it into your console and away you go. Your LiteOn drive contains a DVDkey which is married to your XBOX 360 console. You have to dump the firmware of the LiteOn drive first to obtain your unique DVDkey. Without the DVDkey, all your Samsung drive would do in your XBOX 360 is play DVDs.
Bottom line is you have to obtain your XBOX 360s unique DVDkey from the LiteOn firmware.
Honestly, once you get the firmware dumped from the LiteOn, flashing a LiteOn is just as easy as Samsung. The only hard part is getting your firmware/DVDkey from the LiteOn drive.
do you know if there coming out with a program that will do that? (the easy way)
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11. October 2010 @ 16:13 |
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Originally posted by Bookable:
Originally posted by leerage:
Originally posted by Bookable:
so why wouldn't it be easier to just go out and get a samsung drive?
Lol... I don't know how to explain this any easier for you man. You can't just buy a Samsung drive and pop it into your console and away you go. Your LiteOn drive contains a DVDkey which is married to your XBOX 360 console. You have to dump the firmware of the LiteOn drive first to obtain your unique DVDkey. Without the DVDkey, all your Samsung drive would do in your XBOX 360 is play DVDs.
Bottom line is you have to obtain your XBOX 360s unique DVDkey from the LiteOn firmware.
Honestly, once you get the firmware dumped from the LiteOn, flashing a LiteOn is just as easy as Samsung. The only hard part is getting your firmware/DVDkey from the LiteOn drive.
do you know if there coming out with a program that will do that? (the easy way)
Doubtful. This method actually isn't that complicated so I doubt anybody will go to great lengths to make it completely all software mod.
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Bookable
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11. October 2010 @ 16:16 |
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could you direct me on what is needed to buy?
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11. October 2010 @ 16:22 |
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Originally posted by Bookable:
could you direct me on what is needed to buy?
Maximus Xtractor + Vampire 2.0
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CK3 + Probe 2
If you don't want to solder the traces back together you can pick up a trace repair pen to fix the traces.
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soul878
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11. October 2010 @ 16:53 |
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Hi. Same question here! I have the Liteon drive (version DG-16D2S with firmware 74850C).
Looking at buying this probe http://mrmodchips.co.uk/catalog/product_...621cc456685411a and this tutorial http://www.ixtreme.net/xbox-360-tutorial...ixtreme-t5.html reads to me that the only difference from flashing this drive to any other is that you need the drive open, you need the probe to touch the single position on the pcb and you can still use the xbox itself to power up the drive??
I only decided I wanted to flash my box yesterday and done a little reading. I also find the tutorial a little hard to follow so maybe I'm reading something wrong? Is it possible with just this probe and nothing else for my LiteOn Drive (if it is it doesn't sound all that difficult at all)?
Thanks for any help!
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Edit - Or even this? http://mrmodchips.co.uk/catalog/product_...621cc456685411a is that the only thing I would need to install??! and if so would it be a bitch like soldering the d0 on the original box?!
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11. October 2010 @ 16:59 |
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Originally posted by soul878:
Hi. Same question here! I have the Liteon drive (version DG-16D2S with firmware 74850C).
Looking at buying this probe http://mrmodchips.co.uk/catalog/product_...621cc456685411a and this tutorial http://www.ixtreme.net/xbox-360-tutorial...ixtreme-t5.html reads to me that the only difference from flashing this drive to any other is that you need the drive open, you need the probe to touch the single position on the pcb and you can still use the xbox itself to power up the drive??
I only decided I wanted to flash my box yesterday and done a little reading. I also find the tutorial a little hard to follow so maybe I'm reading something wrong? Is it possible with just this probe and nothing else for my LiteOn Drive (if it is it doesn't sound all that difficult at all)?
Thanks for any help!
Check out the tutorial in my signature called "All LiteOns".
Basically the preferred method for all LiteOns is cutting traces, then either using the Vampire/Probe 2 or soldering a switch and resistor to the board.
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soul878
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11. October 2010 @ 17:17 |
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Originally posted by leerage:
Check out the tutorial in my signature called "All LiteOns".
Basically the preferred method for all LiteOns is cutting traces, then either using the Vampire/Probe 2 or soldering a switch and resistor to the board.
Ok I find this a bit confusing.
1) In the guide on your sig it says at the end the traces should be repaired, is this a nessicary step and if not, why do it if its not needed?
2) When you say 'Probe 2' we are talking about the 'Executer CK3 Probe v2' yes?
3) Earlier in the thread its mentioned a CK3 (I presume connectivity kit) is also required (it also says in your linked guide that the CK3 + Probe2 is required). Do I really need this? I ask because if thats the case, its just as cheap to buy the Blaster CK3 which comes with a Probe bundled.. What exactly is this thing for / doing?
4) I plan on going out to the shop and buying a new xbox (I presume these will all be the new style xbox 360s now with the redesigned bodies) so I can continue to use xbox live.. Now, my elite with the liteon inside it is still going strong.. Can I flash the new style xboxs easier than doing my liteon equipped elite and forgo all this lot and just flash the new one the easy way!!!?
Sorry for all the questions but I would like a clear picture of whats needed as the website I keep linking to where I will get the bits has like 4 items all of which claim to get the drive key from my model liteon and none of them say you need anything other than that single item!
Thanks and sorry for being a pain!
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Bookable
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11. October 2010 @ 17:24 |
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can you do it without soldering? can you just connect wires on the board or something? And do you know of some kind of free software that can backup xbox 360 games?
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eggman14
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11. October 2010 @ 18:28 |
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Originally posted by Bookable:
can you do it without soldering? can you just connect wires on the board or something? And do you know of some kind of free software that can backup xbox 360 games?
You have been told in many ways that NO there is No way without soldering or a vampire probe.without being rude you best not try this as you havent read up about it and you dont seem to understand the basics.
there are lots of people out there flashing take it to someone local.
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eggman14
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11. October 2010 @ 18:32 |
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Originally posted by soul878:
Originally posted by leerage:
Check out the tutorial in my signature called "All LiteOns".
Basically the preferred method for all LiteOns is cutting traces, then either using the Vampire/Probe 2 or soldering a switch and resistor to the board.
Ok I find this a bit confusing.
1) In the guide on your sig it says at the end the traces should be repaired, is this a nessicary step and if not, why do it if its not needed?
2) When you say 'Probe 2' we are talking about the 'Executer CK3 Probe v2' yes?
3) Earlier in the thread its mentioned a CK3 (I presume connectivity kit) is also required (it also says in your linked guide that the CK3 + Probe2 is required). Do I really need this? I ask because if thats the case, its just as cheap to buy the Blaster CK3 which comes with a Probe bundled.. What exactly is this thing for / doing?
4) I plan on going out to the shop and buying a new xbox (I presume these will all be the new style xbox 360s now with the redesigned bodies) so I can continue to use xbox live.. Now, my elite with the liteon inside it is still going strong.. Can I flash the new style xboxs easier than doing my liteon equipped elite and forgo all this lot and just flash the new one the easy way!!!?
Sorry for all the questions but I would like a clear picture of whats needed as the website I keep linking to where I will get the bits has like 4 items all of which claim to get the drive key from my model liteon and none of them say you need anything other than that single item!
Thanks and sorry for being a pain!
1. yes
2.yes but there are others
3.you need the connectivity kit to use the probe as that is what it connects to.
4.the new ones if anything will be more difficult.search for the jungleflasher.pdf for a comprehensive guide to flashing.
GOOGLE is your friend, please dont be scared to search with it.
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11. October 2010 @ 18:53 |
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Originally posted by soul878:
1) In the guide on your sig it says at the end the traces should be repaired, is this a nessicary step and if not, why do it if its not needed?
Not sure where you are seeing that but in my tutorial this is what it says: "You may want to repeat this process a couple of times to ensure a good dump. You can use JF to check the MD5 of your dump.Once complete, repair your traces. I recommend a repair trace pen. Use a multimeter to test continuity."
You must repair the traces or your LiteOn won't power on.
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soul878
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11. October 2010 @ 23:20 |
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Ok thanks. Well that probably rules me out then. I've done a lot of soldering but never any trace repair. I've destroyed some in my early days of soldering and I doubt I could get them back to working states.
Thanks for the heads up.
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11. October 2010 @ 23:21 |
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Originally posted by soul878:
Ok thanks. Well that probably rules me out then. I've done a lot of soldering but never any trace repair. I've destroyed some in my early days of soldering and I doubt I could get them back to working states.
Thanks for the heads up.
Your other option would be to buy a trace repair pen. It is basically conductive glue and very easy to use.
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