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New LT firmware on the way w/SSv3 & anti-AP2.5
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30. October 2010 @ 07:36 |
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Please approach this post with caution, as it is a repost from the news section over at xbox360iso and I haven't confirmed its authenticity. Just a heads up on that.
-MG
**edit, looks like this has been confirmed on mirc and xbox-scene.**
Time to change things up a bit.
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2010-10-30 03:11PM] <c4eva> New AP25 checks confirmed on new dash with fable 3, LT+ coming for required drives with SSv3 and anti AP25 included!
[2010-10-30 03:15PM] <c4eva> there are 5 ap25 checks done when xex is launched!
[2010-10-30 03:17PM] <c4eva> samsung doesnt have ap25
[2010-10-30 03:18PM] <c4eva> 360s LT+ will include this now
[2010-10-30 03:19PM] <c4eva> samsung and some old hitachi dont have ap25
[2010-10-30 03:22PM] <c4eva> samsung wont do ap25, it will be skipped (safe)
[2010-10-30 03:24PM] <c4eva> they will detect your drive changing to a samsung! [if you spoof to Samsung]
[2010-10-30 03:31PM] <c4eva> dash log:
[2010-10-30 03:31PM] <c4eva> AD0000000000000000180000
[2010-10-30 03:31PM] <c4eva> 55000000000000002A000000
[2010-10-30 03:32PM] <c4eva> 392077777777777777777777
[2010-10-30 03:32PM] <c4eva> 5A003900000000002A000000
[2010-10-30 03:32PM] <c4eva> 55000000000000002A000000
[2010-10-30 03:32PM] <c4eva> 392077777777777777777777
[2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 5A003900000000002A000000
[2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 55000000000000002A000000
[2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 392077777777777777777777
[2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 5A003900000000002A000000
[2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 55000000000000002A000000ti-AP2.5 coming
[2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 392077777777777777777777
[2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 5A003900000000002A000000
[2010-10-30 03:35PM] <c4eva> 55000000000000002A000000
[2010-10-30 03:35PM] <c4eva> 392077777777777777777777
[2010-10-30 03:35PM] <c4eva> 5A003900000000002A000000
[2010-10-30 03:35PM] <c4eva> 550020000000000014000000
[2010-10-30 03:35PM] <c4eva> thats it
[2010-10-30 03:41PM] <c4eva> confirmation will need to be done on released retail kinect dash!
[2010-10-30 03:43PM] <c4eva> at this point, only new games check ap25!
[2010-10-30 03:44PM] <c4eva> kreon=fail!
"All drives should be updated to Lite Touch + (LT+) firmware if playing on XBOX live. Samsung drives and pre-78/79 Hitachi drives do not utilize AP 2.5. All other drives are considered to be detectable by Microsoft (YMMV). Make sure all rips are ABGX verified, contain SSv2, and patched AP2.5 (where needed). XGD3 must currently be burned on new drive with PC Burner Max firmware for 100% rip. All modded consoles can be potentially unsafe for use on XBOX live."
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30. October 2010 @ 08:32 |
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Thanks for the update MG!
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30. October 2010 @ 08:48 |
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No Problem BillB. I will post any additional info on this when it surfaces.
"All drives should be updated to Lite Touch + (LT+) firmware if playing on XBOX live. Samsung drives and pre-78/79 Hitachi drives do not utilize AP 2.5. All other drives are considered to be detectable by Microsoft (YMMV). Make sure all rips are ABGX verified, contain SSv2, and patched AP2.5 (where needed). XGD3 must currently be burned on new drive with PC Burner Max firmware for 100% rip. All modded consoles can be potentially unsafe for use on XBOX live."
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BIFF0
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30. October 2010 @ 09:05 |
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Originally posted by MrGreaser:
No Problem BillB. I will post any additional info on this when it surfaces.
All the panic and this will likely be a much better ban wave for the community than previous years. Knowing what M$ are doing before it's even released is a very good position to be in.
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mrbenna
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30. October 2010 @ 09:15 |
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iam glad c4 has said something put an end to all speculation ive got an old xbox with a sammy drive with rrod all my others are liteon
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vister
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30. October 2010 @ 11:06 |
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thats some very good news, now i will try to finish fable before the new dash update
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bludd
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30. October 2010 @ 12:11 |
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So if we aren't forced to update our dash to the most current could we assume we could still play these new games offline like Fable 3 on older dashboards?
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30. October 2010 @ 17:33 |
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So if we aren't forced to update our dash to the most current could we assume we could still play these new games offline like Fable 3 on older dashboards?
MS know that there'll be people who'll keep an offline console on the NXE dash just to use offline, so they'll probably force dashboard updates in newer games. They clearly don't like people playing games offline on a flashed console and then using an unflashed one to connect to Live and update achievements, and that's one of the things this new protection prevents, but being able to stay on the NXE dash would be a loophole in that, but it's easy for MS to close it.
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Modking30
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30. October 2010 @ 21:13 |
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nice post. Can't wait to see what happens
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kingofall
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31. October 2010 @ 00:37 |
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so if we do have a modded console is it a good idea to NOT update and NOT take it online?
I am here standing. I never sit.
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brooksonj
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31. October 2010 @ 06:54 |
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Originally posted by kingofall:
so if we do have a modded console is it a good idea to NOT update and NOT take it online?
Sounds like it
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mazz0310
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31. October 2010 @ 17:12 |
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Sounds to me like its safe to go online as long as your playing older games? Any opinions on that?
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31. October 2010 @ 20:09 |
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man i wish i had a samsung now LOL!!!! dangit!!!
If you send me questions on Live about modding or anything related i will block you. Dont be an idiot.
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Mikerotch0
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1. November 2010 @ 03:37 |
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So here's my story:
Liteon 7 series with LT 1.2. I've played Guitar Hero Warriors of Rock online on October 30th. Since then I haven't logged back into LIVE and i will NOT log into live to update to November 1st update (cuz that's just stupid) UNTIL LT+ comes out.
I haven't played Fable 3 or Sims 3 or any "new" games online or offline. Can I update? Should I?
What are my chances of getting banned?
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JediOrc
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1. November 2010 @ 04:59 |
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At this time, no one will know until we have several confirmations from different sources. The only 1 reliable source would be C4E, other than that take it as a rumor.
Now we wait to see if it's safe to play old games, new games, etc...
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360lifer
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1. November 2010 @ 10:26 |
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So lets say in the future, MS makes new games check to see which dashboard you are using and if you are on the older one, it will force you to update or you won't be able to boot the game. Can't rippers simply replace the update with junk files or replace it with an older update?
Or, couldn't a firmware be made to tell the system that the disc passed the check? I don't see any doom and gloom about it, there should be ways to get around even that.
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1. November 2010 @ 11:07 |
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Originally posted by 360lifer:
So lets say in the future, MS makes new games check to see which dashboard you are using and if you are on the older one, it will force you to update or you won't be able to boot the game. Can't rippers simply replace the update with junk files or replace it with an older update?
Or, couldn't a firmware be made to tell the system that the disc passed the check? I don't see any doom and gloom about it, there should be ways to get around even that.
they already do that man, they have released games in the past with updates on them to force you to update. the update can be patched out but thats a number one way to get that box flagged if you use it on live later on. Best to just wait for the new fw and be patient if your goal is to get back on live safely. if you dont want to use live then yes you can patch out the update, or at least in the past you could.
If you send me questions on Live about modding or anything related i will block you. Dont be an idiot.
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360lifer
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1. November 2010 @ 12:04 |
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Originally posted by stealthdf:
Originally posted by 360lifer:
So lets say in the future, MS makes new games check to see which dashboard you are using and if you are on the older one, it will force you to update or you won't be able to boot the game. Can't rippers simply replace the update with junk files or replace it with an older update?
Or, couldn't a firmware be made to tell the system that the disc passed the check? I don't see any doom and gloom about it, there should be ways to get around even that.
they already do that man, they have released games in the past with updates on them to force you to update. the update can be patched out but thats a number one way to get that box flagged if you use it on live later on. Best to just wait for the new fw and be patient if your goal is to get back on live safely. if you dont want to use live then yes you can patch out the update, or at least in the past you could.
My friends and I have seperate boxes for offline and online so we don't care at all if it makes it obvious that we are using a backup.
And I thought those updates from games were just like getting it from Live, it allowed you to say NO and still play the game.
Eh, I guess even if you are forced to update on a machine that you never take online, the new firmware coming would take care of any issues. Just trying to avoid having to do the flashing.
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1. November 2010 @ 12:18 |
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im not talking about game updates im talking system updates like last year when NXE dash came out there were some games that had the update on disc.
your eithere gonna have to flash new fw or you will end up having to make sure every new game you get down the line with the update on it has been patched out. that can be a pain to do with a lot of games. thats why i say just do the fw its one time hassle instead of multiple occurence
If you send me questions on Live about modding or anything related i will block you. Dont be an idiot.
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360lifer
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1. November 2010 @ 12:31 |
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Originally posted by stealthdf:
im not talking about game updates im talking system updates like last year when NXE dash came out there were some games that had the update on disc.
your eithere gonna have to flash new fw or you will end up having to make sure every new game you get down the line with the update on it has been patched out. that can be a pain to do with a lot of games. thats why i say just do the fw its one time hassle instead of multiple occurence
Right right.
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tuesdayblue
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1. November 2010 @ 23:30 |
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Sh*t man
I have a flashed and non flashed xbox....Well basically i updated my non flashed to the new dashboard then tried to transfer the profile over via usb to update gamerscore for fable 3 from my 1.2 flashed consle and it wouldn't let me update so i then put the profile back on usb & saved files etc and formatted the hardrive & tried again and still no luck..anyways i put all the shit back on the hardrive and tried to play fable 3 again on my 1.2 and it said i needed the game update as i formatted it and lost it which i got back in october so i had no other choice but to update the 1.2 to the new dashboard so i could quickly get the gameupdate and log out but when finishing updating, it said disk was unreadable and i quickly logged out and found out now what the new dashboard does....hopefully when LT+ comes out i wnt be banned when logging in
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S1GNZ
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3. November 2010 @ 08:27 |
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I'm pretty new to this stuff so please don't be to hard on me :).
So I got 2 XBOX 360's standing here, 1 normal (flashed), 1 elite (standard). I play with my Gamertag on the flashed xbox but with the hard drive of the elite one (swapped them).
So if I play Fable 3 on my my flashed xbox, and then swap my hard drive to my elite, then play online legal, will this then cause any problems for me?
Furthermore, is this Dashboard update installed partionally on the hard drive or completely on the system itself? Else I could update my legal elite, and just change hard drives if I want to play online, without recovering gamertags and so on.
And my last one..
I played COD: Blackops on my flashed xbox, some achievements are tracked, if I now grab my hard drive, put in my legal elite and I sign into live, would Microsoft recognize I got achievements for a game that hasn't been out? And if so, would it bann my legal xbox then? Because that would be totally sh*t.. :p
Thanks in advance for answering these questions, hope you guys can help!!
Sincerely yours,
S1GNZ
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clarifyphoenix
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3. November 2010 @ 10:39 |
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Originally posted by tuesdayblue:
Sh*t man
I have a flashed and non flashed xbox....Well basically i updated my non flashed to the new dashboard then tried to transfer the profile over via usb to update gamerscore for fable 3 from my 1.2 flashed consle and it wouldn't let me update so i then put the profile back on usb & saved files etc and formatted the hardrive & tried again and still no luck..anyways i put all the shit back on the hardrive and tried to play fable 3 again on my 1.2 and it said i needed the game update as i formatted it and lost it which i got back in october so i had no other choice but to update the 1.2 to the new dashboard so i could quickly get the gameupdate and log out but when finishing updating, it said disk was unreadable and i quickly logged out and found out now what the new dashboard does....hopefully when LT+ comes out i wnt be banned when logging in
I am right there with you. I was having disk read issues last week. So i pop open the ole xbox and clean the lens and the dvd spidle, put everything back in and FINALLY fable 3 would read again! woohoo. But wait... there is a system update..... hmmmmm well i do like playing online... the last update didnt do anything too me... f it!
Fable 3 reads and shows game photo in dashboard! w00t. Launching game... disk read error.... f my life. Try other games, they work! w00t.
Tried backing up fable again.... same issue
Tried backing up fable again.... didnt burn right
Tried backing up fable again.... same issue.
Got my lazy butt onto forums... F MY LIFE :(
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JoParsons
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3. November 2010 @ 13:48 |
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I have 2 xboxes both flashed.. Not played any new games except saw 2 did the dash update on 1 and its now flagged according to Xval2.0 the other console not updated the dash not been online but have played fable 3 and Sims 3 and its not flagged.. Its definatly the dash update not the games that gets your console flagged for banning..
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clarifyphoenix
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3. November 2010 @ 20:04 |
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Originally posted by JoParsons:
I have 2 xboxes both flashed.. Not played any new games except saw 2 did the dash update on 1 and its now flagged according to Xval2.0 the other console not updated the dash not been online but have played fable 3 and Sims 3 and its not flagged.. Its definatly the dash update not the games that gets your console flagged for banning..
Is there a way you can tell you are actually flagged?
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