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Kinect sales are crushing Move sales, says Pachter
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article published on 10 December, 2010
Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter, one of the most well-known in the video game industry has said today that Microsoft's Kinect is crushing Sony's rival Move motion control system in regards to sales.
Sony says it has shipped 4.1 million units since launch, but it is unclear how many of those have translated to actual retail sales.
Microsoft, on the other hand, has confirmed 2.5 million ... [ read the full article ]
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elfman12
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14. December 2010 @ 18:46 |
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Originally posted by kikzm33z:
I don't understand.
I am comparing both products and Move is clearly more accurate because of its controls and that's a positive point for it.
And obviously the lack of controllers for the Kinect is a positive point but since it's different to the Move, you're saying that it's not comparable because it's different.
If that was the case, then the word 'comparison' would never have existed.
No, I'm saying that, although these are motion system, they are both trying to do different things. Move tracks single points in space, and Kinect is trying to monitor motion in an entire playspace. In that case, "accuracy" means different things for different devices. Pinpoint accuracy of a single point in space is very important to Move, but not the purpose of Kinect - it can have less "resolution" and still track the 3D movement of a body.
But using the higher "resolving ability" of Move as if it's the only attribute that matters is simply disingenuous.
It would be the same as me arguing that Move sucks because it can't track the rotational velocity of my right knee joint. Kinect can do it, but Move has no reason to... but that doesn't make it bad.
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14. December 2010 @ 23:38 |
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Originally posted by chris1980:
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Nice! Hey, I can pull info out of my rear end too!
BMWs are outselling Toyotas 10:1
Nice! Hey, I can be a pompous wanker too!
Get a life, fan boy.
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You can really only use it for about 5-10 mins pushing kids included because you get tired from jumping around the place.
So your lack of fitness is microsoft's fault?
You're the fanboy. Have you said one nice thing about Move?
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14. December 2010 @ 23:48 |
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Originally posted by chris1980:
So your lack of fitness is microsoft's fault?
I gotta agree with him here.
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bw5011
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16. December 2010 @ 22:52 |
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I have a Kinect.. It is accurate..I play it in the dark,bright light and with my dogs running around and it works great. Way better than having to hold a controller..Also you can not get accurate movement of everything with a glowing ball... people that dont like the connect probably havent even played one.. go to best buy or somewhere and play.. if you live near raleigh nc you can come to my house and play... Kinect is way, way, way superior...
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16. December 2010 @ 23:55 |
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Personally i have no use for a kinect however it seems apart from the web browser control hack those hacks keep evolving if only they could make one to control xp then i'd buy one
MIT engineer Garratt Gallagher developed a way to use the Kinect sensor to distinguish both hands and individual fingers in a cloud of more than 60,000 points, at speeds up to 30 frames per second.
The system uses the Kinect and the libfreenect driver for interfacing with Linux. "The graphical interface and the hand detection software were written at MIT to interface with the open source robotics package 'ROS,' developed by Willow Garage (willowgarage.com)," according to MIT's CSAIL page on YouTube.
"The hand detection software showcases the abilities of the Point Cloud Library (PCL), a part of ROS that MIT has been helping to optimize."
What kills us with this is that no one is using head gear, gloves with diodes sticking out of them, or bulky "virtual reality" 3D glasses. It's a Microsoft Kinect that you stand in front of. You could put it in someone's living room, or at their desk in an office, and get this interface anywhere.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2374136,00.asp
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17. December 2010 @ 00:17 |
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Originally posted by bw5011:
Way better than having to hold a controller
That is your opinion. Nobody cares about your opinion.
Originally posted by bw5011:
..Also you can not get accurate movement of everything with a glowing ball...
Move also has a Camera which is able to capture 120FPS at 320x240, 60FPS at 640x480. Kinect camera specs are 30FPS at 640x480. I'm not bashing Kinect here, specs are quite good for an RGB camera but the PlayStation Eye has no problems with tracking even in pitch dark (I know from experience).
Originally posted by bw5011:
people that dont like the connect probably havent even played one..
Maybe but it's obvious that you haven't played Move. Kinect isn't anything like the commercials. At least Move is somewhat like the commercials. Both commercials are greatly exaggerated though.
Originally posted by bw5011:
go to best buy or somewhere and play.. if you live near raleigh nc you can come to my house and play
That comment is so weird.
Originally posted by bw5011:
... Kinect is way, way, way superior...
Again, your opinion. I beg to differ. Kinect is basically EyeToy on PS2. Everyone hated EyeToy. I found it interesting for the first couple days. Now that Microsoft makes it, everyone loves it?
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17. December 2010 @ 00:29 |
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no fan wars or there will be bans!!
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17. December 2010 @ 00:36 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
no fan wars or there will be bans!!
ddp, no disrespect or anything but I fail to see where I showed "fanboy-ism". My entire goal in this thread is to prove to the people who say "kinect is better" and haven't even played Move. I've played both. I owned both for a week. I returned both because they weren't worth it for me but I did find Move gave me less problems.
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17. December 2010 @ 00:39 |
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i want to see real numbers on this. i faintly remember being called an idiot(or somthing along those lines) when i said Kinect would out sell the Move.
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17. December 2010 @ 00:44 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
i want to see real numbers on this. i faintly remember being called an idiot(or somthing along those lines) when i said Kinect would out sell the Move.
"This guy is an idiot, he has no idea how to make a proper statement."
I'm talking about Patcher.
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bankai987
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17. December 2010 @ 02:30 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
no fan wars or there will be bans!!
Can you you really make this happen ddp, and not let this turn into gamepro forums. Please, make this a new rule.
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17. December 2010 @ 03:18 |
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Originally posted by bankai987:
Originally posted by ddp:
no fan wars or there will be bans!!
Can you you really make this happen ddp, and not let this turn into gamepro forums. Please, make this a new rule.
I agree. I bet half the people here haven't tried Move or Kinect in their home. I really don't could demo station Move or Kinect systems since their calibration could be off. I've tried both and I can tell you that I have positive and negative things for both!
Want an excellent system with NO chance of Fanboy-ism?
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17. December 2010 @ 03:55 |
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One thing though I believe people should voice their opinions, but not to the point of inciting a fan boy war, all consoles are great in there own way, they are here for enjoyment.
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17. December 2010 @ 08:58 |
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the Dream Cast was a bad ass system. Sega knew how to develop gaming machines, there marketing & title line-ups what cost them.
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17. December 2010 @ 09:02 |
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Originally posted by bankai987:
One thing though I believe people should voice their opinions, but not to the point of inciting a fan boy war, all consoles are great in there own way, they are here for enjoyment.
clearly they're there so we can bitch about why ones great and the others complete crap.
other wise we would just have one gaming machine to rule them all...and we would call it PC.
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17. December 2010 @ 09:50 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
the Dream Cast was a bad ass system. Sega knew how to develop gaming machines, there marketing & title line-ups what cost them.
The dreamcast was amazing and with a release almost 2 years before PS2, it ruled. I agree though, lack of games killed it.
Originally posted by DXR88:
Originally posted by bankai987:
One thing though I believe people should voice their opinions, but not to the point of inciting a fan boy war, all consoles are great in there own way, they are here for enjoyment.
clearly they're there so we can bitch about why ones great and the others complete crap.
other wise we would just have one gaming machine to rule them all...and we would call it PC.
PC wins, no doubt. (Now we'll start a fanboy war about Mac or Windows)
LINUX!
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ps355528
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17. December 2010 @ 10:02 |
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So your lack of fitness is microsoft's fault?
mental fitness.. yes XD
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17. December 2010 @ 12:54 |
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17. December 2010 @ 13:11 |
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