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Trend Micro advises users to avoid wikileaks.info

article published on 17 December, 2010

Trend Micro's TrendLabs blog has posted some information on a website that is redirected to from Wikileaks.org. At present, the Wikileaks.org domain domain redirects to mirror.wikileaks.info, which is hosted on IP address 92.241.190.202. This IP address is registered to Heihachi Ltd, and this is where TrendLabs has put up a flag and felt the need to write about it. While the site doesn't ... [ read the full article ]

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17. December 2010 @ 02:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Smells like bullshit.
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17. December 2010 @ 03:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by hikaricor:
Smells like bullshit.
I wouldn't think so. TrendLabs blog is usually a very good source to keep an eye on, one of many I do. It has nothing to do with Wikileaks itself, just the provider. If AfterDawn were on the provider the same thing would happen to it.
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17. December 2010 @ 03:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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17. December 2010 @ 04:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This makes perfect sense and is in no way suspicious. The US government has pressured hosting providers and domain name controllers to withdraw their services from Wikileaks, given also the ongoing DDOS onslaught that Wikileaks is weathering it makes perfect sense for them to find a provider that can resist both political and technical attacks on them.
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17. December 2010 @ 05:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Something tells me Trend is getting DDOS'd.


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17. December 2010 @ 06:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For fairness and balance, the article should also present the statements of the other side:

Wikileaks.info Press Release

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Spamhaus' False Allegations Against wikileaks.info

Published 15-Dec-2010, 8:00 AM GMT

On Tuesday, 14-Dec-2010 Spamhaus has issued a statement wherein it labels wikileaks.info as "unsafe", as they consider our hosting company as a malware facilitator:

http://www.spamhaus.org/news.lasso?article=665

We find it very disturbing that Spamhaus labels a site as dangerous without even checking if there is any malware on it. We monitor the wikileaks.info site and we can guarantee that there is no malware on it. We do not know who else is hosted with Heihachi Ltd and it is none of our business. They provide reliable hosting to us. That's it.

While we are in favour of "Blacklists", be it for mail servers or web sites, they have to be compiled with care. Just listing whole IP blocks as "bad" may be quick and easy for the blacklist editors, but will harm hosters and web site users.

Wikileaks has been pulled from big hosters like Amazon. That's why we are using a "bulletproof" hoster that does not just kick a site when it gets a letter from government or a big company. Our hoster is giving home to many political sites like castor-schottern.org and should not be blocked just because they might have hosted some malware sites.

Fortunately, more responsible blacklists, like stopbadware.org (which protects the Firefox browser, for example), don't list us. We do hope that Spamhaus hasn't issued this statement due to political pressure.

Wikileaks.info will always be safe and clean. Promised:

Google Safe Browsing Check for wikileaks.info

Update (15-Dec-2010 17:00 PM GMT): Spamhaus has updated their statement to say that they don't blacklist us.

The wikileaks.info Team
Thanks for taking note.

wikileaks.info team
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17. December 2010 @ 11:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Definition: Corporatism -Political system in which power is exercised through large organizations (businesses, trade unions, etc) working in concert with each other, under the direction of the state


Definition: Fascism- A radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek to organize a nation on corporatist perspectives; values; and systems such as the political system and the economy.
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17. December 2010 @ 13:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why can't I find this host on Wikipedia? They seem pretty well known to not have a Wikipedia page...
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17. December 2010 @ 16:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by wikileaksinfo:
For fairness and balance, the article should also present the statements of the other side:

Wikileaks.info Press Release

Quote:
Spamhaus' False Allegations Against wikileaks.info

Published 15-Dec-2010, 8:00 AM GMT

On Tuesday, 14-Dec-2010 Spamhaus has issued a statement wherein it labels wikileaks.info as "unsafe", as they consider our hosting company as a malware facilitator:

http://www.spamhaus.org/news.lasso?article=665

We find it very disturbing that Spamhaus labels a site as dangerous without even checking if there is any malware on it. We monitor the wikileaks.info site and we can guarantee that there is no malware on it. We do not know who else is hosted with Heihachi Ltd and it is none of our business. They provide reliable hosting to us. That's it.

While we are in favour of "Blacklists", be it for mail servers or web sites, they have to be compiled with care. Just listing whole IP blocks as "bad" may be quick and easy for the blacklist editors, but will harm hosters and web site users.

Wikileaks has been pulled from big hosters like Amazon. That's why we are using a "bulletproof" hoster that does not just kick a site when it gets a letter from government or a big company. Our hoster is giving home to many political sites like castor-schottern.org and should not be blocked just because they might have hosted some malware sites.

Fortunately, more responsible blacklists, like stopbadware.org (which protects the Firefox browser, for example), don't list us. We do hope that Spamhaus hasn't issued this statement due to political pressure.

Wikileaks.info will always be safe and clean. Promised:

Google Safe Browsing Check for wikileaks.info

Update (15-Dec-2010 17:00 PM GMT): Spamhaus has updated their statement to say that they don't blacklist us.

The wikileaks.info Team
Thanks for taking note.

wikileaks.info team
Thanks. Added it to the end of the article.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Something tells me Trend is getting DDOS'd.
Trend is not an enemy of Wikileaks in any way so I'd doubt it and even if it was, security firms like Trend Micro are under constant attack from malware peddlers etc. anyway. The reason Trend blocks the entire ISP is because its a huge source for "real" criminal organizations online, unfortunately for Wikileaks it doesn't seem to have any other choice for hosting anymore. I guess there could be some kind of exclusion list for certain sites hosted by a particular ISP though.
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17. December 2010 @ 17:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wikileaks has been in the news a lot, i guess the government is trying to crack down on it from all them documents released. I say Go for Gold wikileaks, sharing is caring :P
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17. December 2010 @ 22:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Dela:
The reason Trend blocks the entire ISP is because its a huge source for "real" criminal organizations online, unfortunately for Wikileaks it doesn't seem to have any other choice for hosting anymore. I guess there could be some kind of exclusion list for certain sites hosted by a particular ISP though.
The only problem with that is that wikileaks has their own IP and their own dedicated fiber lines. They are completely disconnected from the rest of that vault as far as anyone outside the vault can tell. If trend is claiming that they are blocking Wikileaks because another site on another IP address contains malware, then they might as well block every site, including their own.


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