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Bank of America to decline process payments to WikiLeaks
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article published on 18 December, 2010
Bank of America has said this weekend that it too will decline process payments to WikiLeaks, which has angered countries around the world by releasing thousands of previously confidential U.S. diplomatic cables.
Says the bank: "Bank of America joins in the actions previously announced by MasterCard, PayPal, Visa Europe and others and will not process transactions of any type that we ... [ read the full article ]
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18. December 2010 @ 19:30 |
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It's a Bank, what else to expect?
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18. December 2010 @ 21:07 |
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We all know banks are crooked and crooks. whatever information wiki leaks has wont be much of a shocker.
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"This decision is based upon our reasonable belief that WikiLeaks may be engaged in activities that are, among other things, inconsistent with our internal policies for processing payments."
that's your keyword guilt admission right there
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18. December 2010 @ 21:52 |
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go Bank of America
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18. December 2010 @ 23:52 |
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19. December 2010 @ 02:04 |
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Maybe next they could stop processing payments to the red cross and NORML...those also go against their internal policy of trying to make this works a terrible place.
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19. December 2010 @ 11:42 |
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Assange is currently out on bail in the UK, and faces extradition on charges of sexual misconduct in Sweden.
Seems a bit random to the article but okay.
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19. December 2010 @ 15:20 |
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Incredible.
They had the same sort of organised witch-hunting after the Pentagon Papers (Nixon is on record as saying "try him in the press" about Daniel Ellsberg, the man behind that leak).
The fact is the US 'cables' leaked in wikileaks have a restricted readership of between 2 and 3 million.
Some secrets.
Not one life has been put at risk, though several reputations have been (and that for some of these goons is the absolute line crossed).
The leaks' value is not in telling us anything we didnt already know or suspect but in their confirming the cynicism of the lies & cynicism of the liars and hypocrites behind US policy - and in fairness not just US policy, plainly the liars and hypocrites of the diplomatic world are not just confined to the US.
Those liars and hypocrites can no longer use or claim the cover their lies & knowing hypocrisy previously once gave them......and they absolutely hate him for (Assange) this.
Even though they know he leaked not one thing himself.
Being the liars & hypocrites that they are , who spread all of those lies, they also know there is a lot more to come.
The barbaric & revolting rush of supposed democrats and people who purport to uphold the rule of law calling for Assange's assassination on the basis of this leaking (when he in fact leaked nothing himself) is a sickening sight to behold.
I see Palin is the latest to jump on this especially stupid bandwagon.
Ron Paul, for once, had it right -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDp1izlMQT0
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19. December 2010 @ 22:37 |
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+1
"I see Palin is the latest to jump on this especially stupid bandwagon."
LoL...what other kind of bandwagon would she jump onto?
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20. December 2010 @ 06:46 |
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Not really suprised.
What do you expect when you play with the system, it will destroy you, this just shows at how easy you can be destroyed in every single way you could never expect.
My question is what's the real point in releasing documents from a bank?
Is it going to be stuff about how it's been hacked and had heaps of people's account's data stolen and probably sold off so crims can claim your identity so they can get all you cash?
The problem isn't exactly what is released but why, this stuff can be used by spys to gain access to stuff people wouldn't expect.
Just reminds me of how the pirate bay wouldn't delete people's personal data that's been given away in torrents.
Sure it might be great reading all the US inter-country documents but do you want say north korea trolling over all that data so they can work out how best to garner support from other countries that also don't like the US and would support any form of attack upon it.
Far example could get Vietnam piss off the USA so north Korea can easily send a nuke into pearl harbour or something to wipe it for good.
Would anyone actually be fussed about that? I guess not from reading the replies.
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21. December 2010 @ 13:02 |
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xtago
You'd think nobody ever changed or improved anything from your "system will destroy you" comments.
Quite how you imagine NK - or anyone else - can genuinely use anything in the wiki leaks to help it nuke anyone is simply incredible.
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this stuff can be used by spys to gain access to stuff people wouldn't expect.
That's just your own speculation (or the speculation of the media which are plainly being spoon-fed a wave of propaganda to damn wiki-leaks & Assange).
Not one instance of anything wiki-leaks has said on these cables to date has been shown to be in any way genuinely harmful to any individual.
You maybe missed the fact that the supposedly vital & incredibly secret stuff leaked has a readership of between 2 and 3 million?
Are you trying to say Ron Paul wouldn't be fussed about a nuclear attack on the US?!
That's also not forgetting the not-so-small point that NK has not yet had an actual fully successful nuclear test yet, they had one fizzle which didn't go off at all and one partial explosion.....and bear in mind these are tes devices, hardly even close to a deliverable weapon.
Sorry but the way some in the US are trying to equate this wiki-leaks stuff to something close to risking an all-out nuclear attack on the US is laughable stuff.
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21. December 2010 @ 15:24 |
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Originally posted by Interestx:
xtago
You'd think nobody ever changed or improved anything from your "system will destroy you" comments.
Quite how you imagine NK - or anyone else - can genuinely use anything in the wiki leaks to help it nuke anyone is simply incredible.
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this stuff can be used by spys to gain access to stuff people wouldn't expect.
That's just your own speculation (or the speculation of the media which are plainly being spoon-fed a wave of propaganda to damn wiki-leaks & Assange).
Not one instance of anything wiki-leaks has said on these cables to date has been shown to be in any way genuinely harmful to any individual.
You maybe missed the fact that the supposedly vital & incredibly secret stuff leaked has a readership of between 2 and 3 million?
Are you trying to say Ron Paul wouldn't be fussed about a nuclear attack on the US?!
That's also not forgetting the not-so-small point that NK has not yet had an actual fully successful nuclear test yet, they had one fizzle which didn't go off at all and one partial explosion.....and bear in mind these are tes devices, hardly even close to a deliverable weapon.
Sorry but the way some in the US are trying to equate this wiki-leaks stuff to something close to risking an all-out nuclear attack on the US is laughable stuff.
put on your tin foil hat and lock your doors. there coming for us.
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21. December 2010 @ 15:41 |
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Ah yes, the 'you're just being paranoid' gambit.
Yeah, cos if there's one thing stuff like the Pentagon Papers & Wiki-leaks proves beyond all doubt it's that the offial version of the truth is at all times reliable & anyone questioning it is nuts.
Jeez.
Some people really do deserve the Gov they get, huh?
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21. December 2010 @ 15:49 |
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Originally posted by Interestx:
DXR88
Ah yes, the 'you're just being paranoid' gambit.
Yeah, cos if there's one thing stuff like the Pentagon Papers & Wiki-leaks proves beyond all doubt it's that the offial version of the truth is at all times reliable & anyone questioning it is nuts.
Jeez.
Some people really do deserve the Gov they get, huh?
you do realize it wasn't directed at you right?
it was a joke directed at you, because of the comment you commented on.
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21. December 2010 @ 20:01 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
you do realize it wasn't directed at you right?
it was a joke directed at you, because of the comment you commented on.
Sorry DXR88.
The limitations of 2D text on a screen & all that.
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28. December 2010 @ 08:24 |
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Originally posted by xtago:
Not really suprised.
What do you expect when you play with the system, it will destroy you, this just shows at how easy you can be destroyed in every single way you could never expect.
My question is what's the real point in releasing documents from a bank?.......
There's a whole slew of reasons. Bank of America have the worst record on ripping off consumers in the US, even down to breaking into debtors' homes and stealing their possessions. They received well over a trillion dollars in bailout money and TARP guarantees, yet this year's bonuses will amount to $35 billion. And they are paying these bonuses at the expense of cutting off lending to small businesses.
These facts and many others are already known about BoA. If WikiLeaks does what I expect then many internal documents and memos between the Fed and the Bank will be released. It's hardly surprising that they expect these leaks to damage them further.
They are renowned for illegal and unnecessary foreclosures, yet have the country's largest housing stock standing idle.
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28. December 2010 @ 10:18 |
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So what happened to due process? i.e. Investigation, trial in a court of the land, a verdict by one's peers and then (and ONLY then) appropriate punishment if found guilty of carrying out an illegal act. Seems that all the organisations and banks that are refusing payments are taking the law into their own hands under the pretext of "inappropriate conduct". Coupled with the sex charges, it all smacks of a pretty large conspiracy with probably the USA government behind it all.
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28. December 2010 @ 10:22 |
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i think Mr.Assange just has an issue with the word America. Why not kick up the dirt on other Country's, Why didn't he release top secret Files From china or the UK or Russia.
From all the Crooked banks, Why did he choose BankofAmerica. Hell i got some stories About WaMu that would even turn Assange inside out and shake him for all he's worth.
i'm all for what wiki leaks does, but targeting America and thinking he could get away with. i think maybe some of his gears are missing some teeth.
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28. December 2010 @ 10:42 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
i think Mr.Assange just has an issue with the word America. Why not kick up the dirt on other Country's, Why didn't he release top secret Files From china or the UK or Russia.
From all the Crooked banks, Why did he choose BankofAmerica. Hell i got some stories About WaMu that would even turn Assange inside out and shake him for all he's worth.
i'm all for what wiki leaks does, but targeting America and thinking he could get away with. i think maybe some of his gears are missing some teeth.
He's not a researcher nor a reporter. Whistleblowing leaks are given to WikiLeaks and they are checked and published by the world's press. Besides, why not America? Most of the violence in the world in the last few years has come about as a result of American hubris and arrogance. How anyone can defend the actions of Uncle Sam defeats me, because it is a case of "my country right or wrong" which is crass and juvenile.
Same with BoA. Of course there is an equal amount of muckraking that could work against WaMu, Citi and Wells Fargo, to name just three, but presumably material from those organisations hasn't been so comprehensively leaked.
And why should he not target the US? Al Qaeda did, and for a comparatively tiny amount of money brought America to its knees. The country had its chance to be worthwhile when the Soviet Union collapsed. They spent it on weapons and useless wars (which they haven't been on the winning side of since 1945) when they could have earned the world's respect by not interfering with other sovereign nations.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
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28. December 2010 @ 11:09 |
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what really is the point of releasing confidential diplomatic messages ?
Ambassador X meets with Prime minster Y, and reports back on the meeting ... we got information z .. or I don't think we can really trust Y
leaking documents about a Government Program rife with corruption or General's A, B and C knowing Weapon System F has serious flaws that are going to get Soldiers Killed has a place I society ...
IMHO this is nothing more than some self important Nebbish trying to make a name for himself at the expense of an Entire nation ... if America is such a fucked up place to live, why are 1000's of Mexicans coming across the border everyday ?
yeah we have our problems ... but NO BODY is Perfect ...
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28. December 2010 @ 11:12 |
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this stuff can be used by spys to gain access to stuff people wouldn't expect.
Good old scare tactics the media and our government has been using against us for decades in order to control the masses. This is just lies much like the rape charges now surfacing against Julian. If the US had criminal charges, valid ones, they would have been put into place long ago. Instead they are trying to conjure up something they can impose on Julian. There is far too much being covered up and mistreated as Secret in our government and it needs to stop, so it is very good the leak is happening and I love to see Citi Corp getting theirs too. Information is power these days the ones who controls it control all of us.
Obama would like to block websites just like China and other scary countries because he wants to control what we read and where we go, plus it would get him in big with Hollywood and other big business. I wouldn?t doubt that FOX News (National) would get blocked eventually since they oppose him in so many ways.
Corruption is at its worst these days and it won?t be long until something bursts and Anarchy rains. It is sad that we can?t learn from the past and that we have to relive the cycle of history over and over again.
It?s great that Assange has leaked these documents and I hope he keeps going, but at the end of this the powers in place will bury him unfortunately, it?s very hard to beat the system.
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28. December 2010 @ 11:31 |
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Go Julian go boy,you've got the bastards on the run. They're too quick to point the finger at anyone else, but it's a different story when it's them on the receiving end. Of course the greedy bastard financial institutions are gonna back 'em. They've too much at stake to do any different!
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28. December 2010 @ 12:26 |
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Originally posted by cammobus:
what really is the point of releasing confidential diplomatic messages ?
Ambassador X meets with Prime minster Y, and reports back on the meeting ... we got information z .. or I don't think we can really trust Y
leaking documents about a Government Program rife with corruption or General's A, B and C knowing Weapon System F has serious flaws that are going to get Soldiers Killed has a place I society ...
IMHO this is nothing more than some self important Nebbish trying to make a name for himself at the expense of an Entire nation ... if America is such a fucked up place to live, why are 1000's of Mexicans coming across the border everyday ?
yeah we have our problems ... but NO BODY is Perfect ...
(DITTO)
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28. December 2010 @ 12:37 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
Originally posted by cammobus:
what really is the point of releasing confidential diplomatic messages ?
Ambassador X meets with Prime minster Y, and reports back on the meeting ... we got information z .. or I don't think we can really trust Y
leaking documents about a Government Program rife with corruption or General's A, B and C knowing Weapon System F has serious flaws that are going to get Soldiers Killed has a place I society ...
IMHO this is nothing more than some self important Nebbish trying to make a name for himself at the expense of an Entire nation ... if America is such a fucked up place to live, why are 1000's of Mexicans coming across the border everyday ?
yeah we have our problems ... but NO BODY is Perfect ...
(DITTO)
Because Mexico is more of a mess than the US, obviously. You don't see Canadians' fleeing to the US in hordes do you! If you can't comprehend that how is that you can comprehend well in other areas, you can't.
NO DITTO here!
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28. December 2010 @ 13:10 |
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Originally posted by cammobus:
....IMHO this is nothing more than some self important Nebbish trying to make a name for himself at the expense of an Entire nation ... if America is such a fucked up place to live, why are 1000's of Mexicans coming across the border everyday ?..
Try looking around yourself. 45 million people getting food stamps, 20%+ unemployment in real terms, 200 banks failed this year, a million people losing their homes, a third-world standard of healthcare, no increase in real standards of living for thirty years, a country that spends a trillion dollars a year it doesn't have on killing people while domestic disasters like Katrina go unaddressed. If you think that's desirable try visiting Western Europe and Scandinavia to see how it should be done. We have our own problems because of thieves and crooks like Goldman Sachs, but we're dealing with them.
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28. December 2010 @ 13:54 |
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If you're trying to say the EU is better, that is far from true. The US's biggest problem is trying to be like the EU. We were the best nation in the world until this slide to socialism and now we are just like the rest unfortunately.
Although Katrina was definitely mishandled by the Federal government but it really was Louisiana?s fault it was mishandled the way it was, and the fact that no dikes were built in the first place. The civil engineers instructed them on what needed to be done long before Katrina, some monies were provisioned to Louisiana but the local government didn't want to spend the money on what needed to be done, nothing new there. Then after it was mishandled by local government during the disaster and elections came around again they elected the same incompetent people they had in the first place. Dumb is dumb and deserves what they asked for.
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