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PlayStation 3 'private key' unveiled, console permanently jailbroken?
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article published on 29 December, 2010
A hacking group called "fail0verflow" has presented at this week's Chaos Communication Conference 27C3, showing off the PlayStation 3 "private key" that Sony uses to authorize code on all retail consoles.
Knowing the private key means any hacker can gain full control of the PS3 system, without needing to jailbreak it using a USB dongle.
The team's site (here) is not available yet, ... [ read the full article ]
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biglo30
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30. December 2010 @ 01:01 |
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Best news to end the year with, now lets see what sony has up their sleeves besides mandatory updates that dont even add features. Sony brought this on themselves when they robbed users like me of one of the features we paid for. Yet another dumb move by Sony.....
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30. December 2010 @ 01:04 |
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Wow great watch, wish i went to this.
But outnumbered by PS3 Fans
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mrslicker
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30. December 2010 @ 01:11 |
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Originally posted by biglo30:
Best news to end the year with, now lets see what sony has up their sleeves besides mandatory updates that dont even add features.
maybe they will bring out the playstation 4 earlier, and begin a another 4-year hack cycle.
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evoguru
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30. December 2010 @ 01:33 |
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Cant wait!
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30. December 2010 @ 01:42 |
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Originally posted by mrslicker:
Originally posted by biglo30:
Best news to end the year with, now lets see what sony has up their sleeves besides mandatory updates that dont even add features.
maybe they will bring out the playstation 4 earlier, and begin a another 4-year hack cycle.
I'm sure it will be launched with linux (just like the PS2 and PS3), and it will later be removed (just like the PS2 and PS3), and that will lead to hacks (just like the PS2 and PS3), and that will lead to piracy (just like the PS2 and PS3).
If they do release the PS4 in 2011, it will cost so much that very few people will buy one, and the only games available will be PS3 games (assuming they include backwards compatibility). Plus, they don't really have a side gimmick. The blu-ray support on the PS3 really did help sales a lot...but blu-ray is still modern; they really don't have another step to take like when they went from CD to DVD or from DVD to blu-ray.
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snaketus
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30. December 2010 @ 03:39 |
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Who cares really? I don't really care that pirates have hacked it and I don't really care that Sony tries to keep it intact. Get over it.
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elbald90
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30. December 2010 @ 04:51 |
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gt5 coming to a jailbroken ps3 near you soon :)
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30. December 2010 @ 07:13 |
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Who cares really? I don't really care that pirates have hacked it and I don't really care that Sony tries to keep it intact. Get over it.
If you don't care then why comment? by the way, pirates didn't hack/crack the PS3 dummy.
I can't wait to still see he full potential of the PS3 now that the PS3 is unlocked. Good day's ahead my friends.
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dEwMe
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30. December 2010 @ 08:34 |
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Still $300 for a new box...I'll pass.
Just my $0.02,
dEwMe
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SDF_GR
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30. December 2010 @ 11:54 |
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In a tweet, the hackers note what many have been saying for months, that Sony made a terrible decision when the removed OtherOS, the built-in ability to run Linux. Says the group: "We only started looking at the ps3 after otheros was killed."
So if tomorrow sony announces that they will bring back the OtherOS the PS3 hack scene will cease to exist.
That's some major BS.
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Hopium
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30. December 2010 @ 18:31 |
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Originally posted by apiodjasdioda:
People, the price of PS3 is lower than the cost of making process.
Sony on PS3 makes living from selling of videogames - nothing else.
If you buy PS3 but you are not playing/buying games, Sony is throwing money into air.
For example, army built super computer from PS3 because it was cheaper than buying of PCs, even some people were buying it as home-theater or PC replacement for entertainment if it would go this direction the sony would lose too much.
Of course Sony can not rise the price of PS3 due to competition on market.
Best logical way out of this situation is to disable OS on PS3.
But well than some thieves will come, sorry did I say thieves? I meant haxors.
how is a hacker a thief? i didnt see anywhere in the article or video where they stole their PS3. these guys did whatever they want with their pc the same way a person can do whatever they want to their car. removing a throttle governor from a car so it goes faster is no different then exploiting the hypervisor so you can do more.
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30. December 2010 @ 19:12 |
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Originally posted by SDF_GR:
So if tomorrow sony announces that they will bring back the OtherOS the PS3 hack scene will cease to exist.
That's some major BS.
That's not what the group is saying. They are saying that because Sony removed OtherOS fail0verflow got involved in the scene. It's not saying the scene wouldn't exist if Sony didn't remove OtherOS.
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30. December 2010 @ 19:56 |
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Kinda sucks.
When a console is exploited, hacks and cheats will be seen in games.
Luckily, MW2 is now a dead game but there's modded lobbies everywhere thanks to the PS3 jailbreak.
I don't mind the exploitation of consoles, it just sucks ass that bastards will start modding games and ruining the fun for others.
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Hopium
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30. December 2010 @ 21:17 |
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actually thats not a bad thing either take halo2 modding for example you had your cheaters of course but remember they are cheating at video game lol dont take em to seriously cause in the end you win anyways cause your stats are real :D but i had modders who loved the game as much as me and modded gametypes that where insanely fun to play i still go on xbox connect and play some modded lobbies once in a blue moon. some modding can actually help games like in black ops the ante games are not re-creatable for play with your friends its only ranked now a modded console could alter the rules for that. its all about customization, piracy and cheaters come with that. same as knives sometimes come with a nice juicy steak or murdering an entire family :D the xbmc is still running a program originally needed a modded console to run and now is multi-platform with 10.0 just coming out.
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xtago
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30. December 2010 @ 22:58 |
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In a tweet, the hackers note what many have been saying for months, that Sony made a terrible decision when the removed OtherOS, the built-in ability to run Linux. Says the group: "We only started looking at the ps3 after otheros was killed."
load BS, everyone and their dog says this, all the while have never used any home brew and at the end of the day really what home brew is there? that's been released so far nothing pretty much but a DVP software, Sony came out with their own DVR with PlayTV.
It's a bit like everyone on PC saying they only grab games off the pirate bay because they desperately need to test out all the newest Linux ISOs.
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Amak
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30. December 2010 @ 23:28 |
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Removing OtherOS wasn't THE cause of the scene picking up... but it was a damn good catalyst.
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plazma247
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31. December 2010 @ 05:55 |
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As far as sony go, i wouldn't worry, ok this will mean piracy becomes rife on the ps3.
What happens as a result:
Developers get less money
Sony sell a cr4p load more consoles
XBOX sells less console.
Maybe not the best result for sony, but ultimately it was piracy that made the ps one as popular as it was for so long.
This does also mean that cell based distributed processing clusters can continue to be built.
And in all honestly when most games are online games and due to modern server auth systems you cant load a pirated game and get online with it to play your mates... its not going to be as painful as people might think to the developers, in fact it will probably just sell more games.
In the long run this will probably hurt microsoft more.
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jamesthejb
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31. December 2010 @ 09:26 |
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but isnt this still the same master key that these lot have been using... http://ps3custom.host.sk ?? i thought that had been revoked
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plazma247
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31. December 2010 @ 09:31 |
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Originally posted by jamesthejb:
but isnt this still the same master key that these lot have been using... http://ps3custom.host.sk ?? i thought that had been revoked
Nope Cheif, basically the original crack/hack was the developers key and only allowed a small fraction of what this allows.
This basically means anything is now potentially possible :) and no retractions its like the hdmi master key the other week.
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jerred121
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31. December 2010 @ 09:58 |
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Originally posted by dEwMe:
Still $300 for a new box...I'll pass.
yeah, you could buy 1 and a 1/2 360s for that price, pay for xbox live and eventually need to replace it because it red ringed on you...
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dEwMe
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31. December 2010 @ 10:28 |
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Originally posted by jerred121:
Originally posted by dEwMe:
Still $300 for a new box...I'll pass.
yeah, you could buy 1 and a 1/2 360s for that price, pay for xbox live and eventually need to replace it because it red ringed on you...
First I didn't say anything durogatory towards the PS3 other than it's pricey...If you can drop $300 right now I'm happy your doing well!
Second the XBox did have RROD issues with older versions of the console but for the most part I think that's history now. PS3 had it's issues too move on already...lol
Just my $0.02,
dEwMe
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plazma247
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31. December 2010 @ 11:32 |
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Awww go on i wanted to see a brand new RROD VS YLOD flame war, cus no ones heard it before and its not got old yet......honest!
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SDF_GR
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31. December 2010 @ 13:32 |
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Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
Originally posted by SDF_GR:
So if tomorrow sony announces that they will bring back the OtherOS the PS3 hack scene will cease to exist.
That's some major BS.
That's not what the group is saying. They are saying that because Sony removed OtherOS fail0verflow got involved in the scene. It's not saying the scene wouldn't exist if Sony didn't remove OtherOS.
well Ok, let me rephrase it.
So if tomorrow sony announces that they will bring back the OtherOS the fail0verflow group will stop messing with the PS3?
I dont think so...the BS is still there.
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In a tweet, the hackers note what many have been saying for months, that Sony made a terrible decision when the removed OtherOS
This thing is all around the net "that the otheros removal made the hackers hack the ps3". Thats a mountain of BS!
Who is believing that sh!??
So if PS3 never supported linux or wasnt able to run linux the ps3 wouldn't be hacked? give me a f break...
The Dongles brought anything useful except piracy? no
Will this bring something new/useful except piracy? no
Every one has 1-2-3 pc's able to run linux way way faster than the ps3, with tons of applications and for some reason all the sudden everyone wants to install linux on their PS3...plus that everyone wants homebrew app's for the PS3.... like what? to do what? that you cant do on your desktop pc?
All the consoles was and will be hacked for free games. Fact.
PS3 because was the most hack-proof console so far, was working like a hackers magnet, everyone was trying to hack it from day 1 for the "fame and glory" ... and btw a "hacker" gave sony the best excuse to remove the otheros from the fat PS3's in first place... the otheros was there when geohot was trying to hack it.
I really hope that sony will find a way around this.
Just cause i dont like all this super-fake BS excuses.
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danixdefcon5
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31. December 2010 @ 13:32 |
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Originally posted by snaketus:
Who cares really? I don't really care that pirates have hacked it and I don't really care that Sony tries to keep it intact. Get over it.
This jailbreak does not allow pirated games to run. It basically re-enables the Linux route that Sony took away back in April 1, 2010; the one thing that does add functionality over the pre-3.21 FW is that this instance of linux wouldn't run under the HyperVisor, it would have full access to the hardware. Whoops!
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