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Toiletman
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8. June 2004 @ 17:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was just wondering whether it would be possible to apply any type of CD Protection to my backups. Don't mind if it's really old but as long as there is some sort of protection that prevents just using the "Start Nero, click burn" method.

I'm lending a backup to a friend and I don't want him to burn a copy of it and claim it for himself. I bought the game legally for around $70 and I suspect he also has my cd-key for the game, therefore that's why he asked me to borrow the backup. Not a very good friend is he =P...

Thankyou for your time,
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8. June 2004 @ 18:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It might be easier to apply a cricket bat to your friend :)



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9. June 2004 @ 06:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think there is some kind of 'protection' cant remember to exact name, but it creates a bogus file on there larger then wat the CD can hold. eg Say your CD was 600mb worth, it could create say a 400mb Bogus file on there, to do with letting it add to TOC and removing it or something, therefor if they just go into Nero and go copy, it will say there isnt enough room on the CD. :-)

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9. June 2004 @ 09:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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therefor if they just go into Nero and go copy, it will say there isnt enough room on the CD. :-)
Now if they just goto say... here... their problems would be solved.

Toiletman: norhing you can really do to keep him from taking it ...short of not giving it to him of course :P

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Toiletman
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9. June 2004 @ 18:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Argh... not even the really old SecuROM protections etc? There must be a way.... I don't want my friend to burn my precious legally bought game... *sniff*

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9. June 2004 @ 20:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can 'modify the backup' file to make it larger than say.... 700MB but that wont be much of a deterrence ... believe me, damn near short of putting the cd image on the cd (which will be bigger than 700MB) and making him use Daemon or something will stop him. :)

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10. June 2004 @ 08:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Correct me if im wrong but didn't i read in another forum that you could apply a simple code or password to it ?
Or it that just for copied cd's ?

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10. June 2004 @ 09:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You are correct in saying that however for that to work, the other party cannot know the password -- but if he wants his friend to be able to have test run of the game, password protecting the cd image file will be worthless because in order to have a test drive, he needs to know the password .... and ya... you see where this is going hehe :)

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10. June 2004 @ 15:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
O.k not much good then !
So in fact the password stops you using the cd alltogether ?!
How would you do that anyway ?
Toiletman
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10. June 2004 @ 17:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is there anyway to make it so the password is only for copying the cd and not reading the cd?

P.S. I still haven't given it to him yet. He's getting suspicious...

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10. June 2004 @ 17:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Simple Solution: Not Give Him The Disc :-)

Another Solution: Read this page http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_protect_cd.shtml

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10. June 2004 @ 19:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL even with that stuff.... it's not invincible :P

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10. June 2004 @ 19:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well even these large companys eg Microsoft cant have it so you cant copy it :-)

But.. For the 'Average' User that will just go into Nero and say Copy Disc.... it will work.

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12. June 2004 @ 05:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
After extensive research and testing for the most part of 2 hours, I have concluded that the TZProtection there works like a dream, and it's still up to date. The others were mostly shit and too out dated.

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12. June 2004 @ 08:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just make sure it doesnt interfere with the copy protection that is already on the cd.

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30. June 2004 @ 17:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi, everybody, I need help, i need some guide to protect my backup of my dvds, I mean I need to find a way that make impossible to copy my vcds, my fiends need to watch my movies, but I dont want that they just copy my vcds. Thanks in advance
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30. June 2004 @ 18:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I mean I need to find a way that make impossible to copy my vcds
Wont be impossible im afraid but you can try to make it more difficult by introducing some overburning.... thats usually enough to deal with amateurs

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gelvatron
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1. July 2004 @ 05:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks, man, I understand that I need to put a lot of information in my VCD (in a diferent folder) that overzise the cd capacity in order it need be overburned, or I need only to make some changes in configuration in Nero burning.
In that case, I need a guide of the correct process.
I only dont want my vcds copied by others.
Thanks man.
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1. July 2004 @ 08:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As far as enabling overburn and stuff, make sure you use high quality media (and if you've got a good burner that helps too). To enable overburning in Nero:

Select Preferences from the File menu and the proceed to the Expert Features tab. Now check the box that says Enable Overburn ... and for the three boxes, enter in the numbers 99, 0, 0 respectively. While you're here, check the next two checkboxes as well. Click Ok to close this dialog box.

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gelvatron
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15. July 2004 @ 03:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've heard about a metod to make artificially big a file in a cd, in order to not fit in another cd when soemone is trying to copi it. But I need a guide about it.
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15. July 2004 @ 04:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why don't you simply ZIP (RAR, ACE) your files with a password before burning them on a CD? This is an easy method!! And.. we are just here to teach how to defeat protectiond for safe backups!!! If there were a method (which I don't know) we wouldn't say it!
You can do it with zero compression to make in maximum speed.

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lewis44
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15. July 2004 @ 06:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How do you ZIP files with a password protection ?
P.s how do you password protect a cd so that you can't use the cd without a password ?
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17. July 2004 @ 00:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hello everybody,
I am also looking up for applying CD protection to backup CDs. But I am using Linux as OS and not Windows. Is their any solution so that I can prevent another user from writting my CDs?
Plzzzz reply as soon as possible.
thanks.
regards,
pragati

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gelvatron
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17. July 2004 @ 02:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I realized that if you had a method, you wouldn¨t say it, but I dont understand why, I need a running VCD that anyone can copy, I dont need a movie compressed in rar or zip.
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17. July 2004 @ 08:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What we're all trying to say is thet there isn't really any feasible method to protect as disc that would allow it to be played by anyone yet be uncopyable. You can password protect a disc but that would mean that you'd have to give the password to whoever is going to play the disc therefore defeating the purpose of protecting it in the first place.

Think of it this way, the big software companies pay lots of money to cutting-edge copy protection companies to protect their software but has that stopped any of us? There's not much a home user can do to protect a disc any better than the biggies can.



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