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Apple stock falls after rumor of Steve Jobs' health
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article published on 17 February, 2011
Apple's shares have fallen five points today after the National Enquirer posted pictures of the ailing CEO Steve Jobs, claiming he may only have six weeks to live due to pancreatic cancer.
The pictures show Jobs leaving the Stanford Cancer Center looking very weak and frail, with his clothes hanging loosely from his body.
Jobs, at 6'2, is said to have fallen to 130 pounds.
Furthermore, ... [ read the full article ]
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18. February 2011 @ 12:36 |
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Over priced and closed, agree completely.
But as of this moment am running OS X on my PC and gettin to like it.
With Apple using Intel x86 architecture, its easier than ever to run it on PC.
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stuntman_
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18. February 2011 @ 14:33 |
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This is what he gets for edited by ddp over his sheep customers for years. I wish him a fast and painless death (even though that isn't going to be the case)
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18. February 2011 @ 22:50 |
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Originally posted by SomeBozo:
Originally posted by Prey521:
Originally posted by tatsh:
You are wrong.
First of all, are you not human?
Second, Apple is the reason Windows exists (too bad Windows sucks though). Jobs was there to do that, not Microsoft.
Agreed, that is a disgusting thing to say, whether you like the man or not. Also, while previous versions of Windows have stunk, Win7 is better than any MacOS.
I would disagree, go back and check the history for graphical user interfaces... Xerox was the first to pioneer them, and was one of the main arguments Microsoft used when Apple sued Microsoft for being too close... Gate's response was just because Apple stole the design from Xerox doesn't mean they have exclusive right to what they stole from Xerox...
I was about to mention the Xerox origins Bozo. It's all very well to point out Apple cleverly exploited the idea but no way did they have the inspiration that created GUI.
I have a grudging respect for Steve Jobs and Apple but I don't pretend their operating systems are totally original - i.e. not based on Unix. Machead fanboyz credit them with too much. e.g. graphical superiority, a bygone laurel.
There were precursors to the iPad. But there is a carry on like they were the first. How I wish that sometimes Amiga had kept going just to wipe the smugness from a few faces.
Just once I would like to see a truly knowledgeable Mac enthusiast describe why they like the machines and why they are prepared to pay so much for them and not resort to imaginary innovations, superiority and whatnot doing so.
It's sad when a company's shareprice is tied into the hero worship of it's CEO. Jobs should come clean and detail a succession process or whatever it's called. But because he hasn't maybe the reports of his impending doom are exaggerated and it really is just the effects of the chemo. Look at the way Michael Douglas has bounced back and he looked like death warmed up!
If he is on the way out I hope he passes as painlessly as possible - I don't like to see anyone in his position.
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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18. February 2011 @ 22:54 |
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Originally posted by Sudds:
Over priced and closed, agree completely.
But as of this moment am running OS X on my PC and gettin to like it.
With Apple using Intel x86 architecture, its easier than ever to run it on PC.
Hang on, don't Macs do x64 yet???
I have considered building some Machead friends Hackintoshes to save them a bit of cash but they are a bit too gutless to try it. :)
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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18. February 2011 @ 23:25 |
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Edit my comment? Seems free speech has no place in the world any more...
If I were to say the same thing I had said about Hitler, I wonder if you would have censored me as well...
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19. February 2011 @ 00:58 |
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Originally posted by Notcow:
Edit my comment? Seems free speech has no place in the world any more...
If I were to say the same thing I had said about Hitler, I wonder if you would have censored me as well...
Did you just compare Steve Jobs to Hitler? Really? Really?? You need to stop posting in this thread, simple.
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19. February 2011 @ 01:02 |
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Notcow, could have deleted your post but it would cause the other posts not to make sense.
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19. February 2011 @ 01:06 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
Notcow, could have deleted your post but it would cause the other posts not to make sense.
Can we simply delete Notcow :)
Thanks for moderating. Nice to have intelligent meaningful conversations.
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19. February 2011 @ 01:27 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by Sudds:
Over priced and closed, agree completely.
But as of this moment am running OS X on my PC and gettin to like it.
With Apple using Intel x86 architecture, its easier than ever to run it on PC.
Hang on, don't Macs do x64 yet???
I have considered building some Machead friends Hackintoshes to save them a bit of cash but they are a bit too gutless to try it. :)
If i read Apple's own comments for x64 support (http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/) it seems they say it is build with x64, and ready for the future.... So it reminds me of Microsoft's good old Win32s... If I read Apple's post correctly there stuff is now built to support running in x64 but the system itself only emulates it until they truly support it natively...
One of the biggest issue going from 32 to 64 bit, are the word/byte alignment issues... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_structure_alignment), it isn't as easy to simply switching from a 32bit compiler and recompiling in x64. Going through many program ports at work the errors would pop up in the strangest places, thank god for all the automated tests we had :)
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19. February 2011 @ 03:47 |
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@notcow- I rarely post on this site anymore and I forgot why until now. While I do not care for how Jobs has run Apple and I despise their tactics saying what you said IS STILL wrong. Then you proceed to throw in a hitler comment?!?
Now this is coming from someone who has had firsthand experience caring for someone who recently died from pancreatic cancer. The rest of what I want to post here would definitely get me banned so I'll hold my tongue except for this last line and if it gets me banned so be it...
Free speech or NOT you need to STFU and go away.
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19. February 2011 @ 06:26 |
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Freedom of speech is important...important enough that we have to tolerate it when people say things we don't like. If you want Steve Jobs dead, you should be able to say it. Telling someone to kill him is a whole other story...but saying that you hope his cancer is terminal is a constitutional right (one of the few bits that were not damaged when George W and Obama wiped their a**es with it).
I don't want Steve to die; I want him to suffer for a very long time in a very terrible way...I hope he never escapes the pain and misery, and I hope he comes to wish that he was simply being tortured...yet for some reason, this is considered nicer than wishing him a peaceful death.
...And he did not compare Steve with Hitler; he simply exposed the hole in the defective logic that a death is never a good thing, and that we should love everyone. Death can be good...and there is no reason to love a tyrant.
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19. February 2011 @ 08:20 |
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Jobs may be a tyrant but he's not a mass murderer. LOL
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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19. February 2011 @ 14:16 |
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Notcow, until you know what it is like to hold somebody's life in your hands, you might want to keep those comments to yourself. i personally know about holding a person's life in my hands as i had to give the hospital this past wednesday permission to amputate my mother's right leg above the knee because of flesh eating disease. then gave them permission to put her on dialysis so hopefully her kidneys recoverful as they have almost shutdown. all this without her knowledge as she is not awake yet. not looking forward to having to tell her when she wakes up that she is now missing part of her leg.
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19. February 2011 @ 14:30 |
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Hope you get well soon Mr Jobs!
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19. February 2011 @ 14:34 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
Notcow, until you know what it is like to hold somebody's life in your hands, you might want to keep those comments to yourself. i personally know about holding a person's life in my hands as i had to give the hospital this past wednesday permission to amputate my mother's right leg above the knee because of flesh eating disease. then gave them permission to put her on dialysis so hopefully her kidneys recoverful as they have almost shutdown. all this without her knowledge as she is not awake yet. not looking forward to having to tell her when she wakes up that she is now missing part of her leg.
Also about notcow's complain about freedom of speech, I'd be the first to defend one's rights for it, but it also doesn't mean people are without consequences for what they say. I can freely hell out "FIRE" in a crowded place, cause a panic and be responsible if anyone happens to get hurt.
Also freedom of speech doesn't allow people the right to freely insult or demean others with personal attacks. The spirit behind "The freedom of speech" is often taken out of context of it's real meaning. It was the one's political or ideological views should be free and with out governmental controls, should be for an idea that has merit, I personally love seeking out people from all political views and talk and exchange ideas. This is what "Freedom of speech" and it's intention was for. Not a means to justify one simply being rude and immature...
Too bad more people don't live by the golden rule, "Do to others as you wish done to you.", on the other hand if you wish a slow painful death for Mr. Jobs, assuming that is what you want done to you, i hope you enjoy your experience.
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19. February 2011 @ 15:02 |
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"Freedom of Speech" has absolutely nothing to do with this. It boils down to just one little thing...and that's aD's Forum Rules ~
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Messages that break any of the rules above can be removed or edited by the moderators and administrators of these forums. Even if something isn't specifically mentioned in the rules, it doesn't mean that it would be permitted. It is up to the moderators and administrators to determine what is appropriate and what is not.
Is it that you have forgotten them? Or maybe you don't care to follow/be mindful of them? Either way I am sure any one of us can quite easily help you with that or hasten you on your way if you so desire.
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19. February 2011 @ 15:21 |
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hello oner.
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19. February 2011 @ 15:39 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
hello oner.
LoL ~ Hey ddp.
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19. February 2011 @ 17:21 |
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Originally posted by SomeBozo:
Originally posted by ddp:
Notcow, until you know what it is like to hold somebody's life in your hands, you might want to keep those comments to yourself. i personally know about holding a person's life in my hands as i had to give the hospital this past wednesday permission to amputate my mother's right leg above the knee because of flesh eating disease. then gave them permission to put her on dialysis so hopefully her kidneys recoverful as they have almost shutdown. all this without her knowledge as she is not awake yet. not looking forward to having to tell her when she wakes up that she is now missing part of her leg.
Also about notcow's complain about freedom of speech, I'd be the first to defend one's rights for it, but it also doesn't mean people are without consequences for what they say. I can freely hell out "FIRE" in a crowded place, cause a panic and be responsible if anyone happens to get hurt.
Also freedom of speech doesn't allow people the right to freely insult or demean others with personal attacks. The spirit behind "The freedom of speech" is often taken out of context of it's real meaning. It was the one's political or ideological views should be free and with out governmental controls, should be for an idea that has merit, I personally love seeking out people from all political views and talk and exchange ideas. This is what "Freedom of speech" and it's intention was for. Not a means to justify one simply being rude and immature...
Too bad more people don't live by the golden rule, "Do to others as you wish done to you.", on the other hand if you wish a slow painful death for Mr. Jobs, assuming that is what you want done to you, i hope you enjoy your experience.
Wow, I certainly wasn't demeaning him in any way, and you're right. You're not allowed to yell FIRE in a movie theater because it would cause a public panic. I'm not causing a public panic, or demeaning him. Simply expressing an opinion that you all obviously disagree with.
Thank you KillerBug for being rational and defending free speech.
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Freedom of speech is important...important enough that we have to tolerate it when people say things we don't like. If you want Steve Jobs dead, you should be able to say it. Telling someone to kill him is a whole other story...but saying that you hope his cancer is terminal is a constitutional right (one of the few bits that were not damaged when George W and Obama wiped their a**es with it).
I don't want Steve to die; I want him to suffer for a very long time in a very terrible way...I hope he never escapes the pain and misery, and I hope he comes to wish that he was simply being tortured...yet for some reason, this is considered nicer than wishing him a peaceful death.
...And he did not compare Steve with Hitler; he simply exposed the hole in the defective logic that a death is never a good thing, and that we should love everyone. Death can be good...and there is no reason to love a tyrant.
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19. February 2011 @ 18:48 |
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Originally posted by Oner:
"Freedom of Speech" has absolutely nothing to do with this. It boils down to just one little thing...and that's aD's Forum Rules ~
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Messages that break any of the rules above can be removed or edited by the moderators and administrators of these forums. Even if something isn't specifically mentioned in the rules, it doesn't mean that it would be permitted. It is up to the moderators and administrators to determine what is appropriate and what is not.
Is it that you have forgotten them? Or maybe you don't care to follow/be mindful of them? Either way I am sure any one of us can quite easily help you with that or hasten you on your way if you so desire.
Power trippin' at the gates of hell!
You're seriously in danger of reducing yourself to his level.
People have expressed their opinion of his view...
ddp, sorry to hear about your mum. I had to look after mine when she had bowel cancer. I hope she survives... mine didn't.
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by Oner:
"Freedom of Speech" has absolutely nothing to do with this. It boils down to just one little thing...and that's aD's Forum Rules ~
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Administrative actions
Messages that break any of the rules above can be removed or edited by the moderators and administrators of these forums. Even if something isn't specifically mentioned in the rules, it doesn't mean that it would be permitted. It is up to the moderators and administrators to determine what is appropriate and what is not.
Is it that you have forgotten them? Or maybe you don't care to follow/be mindful of them? Either way I am sure any one of us can quite easily help you with that or hasten you on your way if you so desire.
Power trippin' at the gates of hell!
You're seriously in danger of reducing yourself to his level.
People have expressed their opinion of his view...
ddp, sorry to hear about your mum. I had to look after mine when she had bowel cancer. I hope she survives... mine didn't.
And there is the expected comment singling Oner out (by the usual one(s) to do so) for something other people have said or feel as well...Odd isn't it? So let me make this clear ~ it's not a power trip, just the job of a moderator. But I guess I can't be human and make my view/emotions be known as to how ghastly inappropriate and of low character to point out what was said. Seriously? FFS he wishes the man to die and you want to somehow compare me to him! .. .... ........
Time to bite my tongue as I do REALLY have 3 words I would like to say but again, as a moderator I can't really say what I would like to in this situation, but I am sure most people have an idea or have said exactly what I feel already.
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20. February 2011 @ 11:41 |
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Originally posted by Sudds:
Originally posted by Notcow:
Good riddance.
Your a fuckin prick...
Well said. I despise Job's business ethics, and the way he treats his partners and vendors. And I absolutely hate Apple and their DRM-laden shit, but cancer is a living death. This man is a human being and nobody deserves to be taken by cancer. NotCow, was your heart and humanity removed when you were born?
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Originally posted by LiveChaos:
Originally posted by Sudds:
Originally posted by Notcow:
Good riddance.
Your a fuckin prick...
Well said. I despise Job's business ethics, and the way he treats his partners and vendors. And I absolutely hate Apple and their DRM-laden shit, but cancer is a living death. This man is a human being and nobody deserves to be taken by cancer. NotCow, was your heart and humanity removed when you were born?
Thank You LiveChaos. I rest my case.
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20. February 2011 @ 13:30 |
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Originally posted by SomeBozo:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by Sudds:
Over priced and closed, agree completely.
But as of this moment am running OS X on my PC and gettin to like it.
With Apple using Intel x86 architecture, its easier than ever to run it on PC.
Hang on, don't Macs do x64 yet???
I have considered building some Machead friends Hackintoshes to save them a bit of cash but they are a bit too gutless to try it. :)
If i read Apple's own comments for x64 support (http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/) it seems they say it is build with x64, and ready for the future.... So it reminds me of Microsoft's good old Win32s... If I read Apple's post correctly there stuff is now built to support running in x64 but the system itself only emulates it until they truly support it natively...
One of the biggest issue going from 32 to 64 bit, are the word/byte alignment issues... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_structure_alignment), it isn't as easy to simply switching from a 32bit compiler and recompiling in x64. Going through many program ports at work the errors would pop up in the strangest places, thank god for all the automated tests we had :)
It automatically runs the programs in 64bit if they support it on my machine.
I can boot the 64bit kernal, but i dont really need to, a only have 4gigs of ram in my system.
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20. February 2011 @ 22:15 |
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apple and steve jobs needs to go away. Stop selling junk and useless products.
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