Originally posted by justsayin':

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Says Wildeboer: "One thing is extremely obvious. Microsoft wants to keep its platform clear of Free Software. Period."

Extremely obvious? Clear of Free Software? Period? the agreement says "Excluded" licenses, it doesn't say freeware or open source. Wileboer is so far from the truth it's ridiculous.

Hey the King has no clothes, oh my!!

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C. Distribution Restrictions. You may not

· alter any copyright, trademark or patent notice in the Distributable Code;

· use Microsoft?s trademarks in your programs? names or in a way that suggests your programs come from or are endorsed by Microsoft;

· distribute Distributable Code to run on a platform other than the Windows platform;

· include Distributable Code in malicious, deceptive or unlawful programs; or
· modify or distribute the source code of any Distributable Code so that any part of it becomes subject to an Excluded License. An Excluded License is one that requires, as a condition of use, modification or distribution, that
the code be disclosed or distributed in source code form; or others have the right to modify it.

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i imagine in the future they will also take piracy as a pretext....

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Originally posted by elbald90:

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take gun , aim ,shoot foot

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Originally posted by justsayin:

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...There are tons of open source licenses (and I'm talking about OSI approved license) that don't require you to disclose or distribute in source code form; or provide others the right to modify it.

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Originally posted by "http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd":

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Open source doesn't just mean access to the source code. The distribution terms of open-source software must comply with the following criteria:
1. Free Redistribution

The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale.
2. Source Code

The program must include source code, and must allow distribution in source code as well as compiled form. Where some form of a product is not distributed with source code, there must be a well-publicized means of obtaining the source code for no more than a reasonable reproduction cost preferably, downloading via the Internet without charge. The source code must be the preferred form in which a programmer would modify the program. Deliberately obfuscated source code is not allowed. Intermediate forms such as the output of a preprocessor or translator are not allowed.
3. Derived Works

The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software.
4. Integrity of The Author's Source Code

The license may restrict source-code from being distributed in modified form only if the license allows the distribution of "patch files" with the source code for the purpose of modifying the program at build time. The license must explicitly permit distribution of software built from modified source code. The license may require derived works to carry a different name or version number from the original software.
5. No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups

The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons.
6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor

The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.
7. Distribution of License

The rights attached to the program must apply to all to whom the program is redistributed without the need for execution of an additional license by those parties.
8. License Must Not Be Specific to a Product

The rights attached to the program must not depend on the program's being part of a particular software distribution. If the program is extracted from that distribution and used or distributed within the terms of the program's license, all parties to whom the program is redistributed should have the same rights as those that are granted in conjunction with the original software distribution.
9. License Must Not Restrict Other Software

The license must not place restrictions on other software that is distributed along with the licensed software. For example, the license must not insist that all other programs distributed on the same medium must be open-source software.
10. License Must Be Technology-Neutral

No provision of the license may be predicated on any individual technology or style of interface.

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Originally posted by Bozobub:

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The Apple store has the exact same restriction on open-source licenses. The real nitty-gritty is that, by many open-source licenses' provisions (as seen above), MS & Apple canNOT directly make any money, ever, on the open-source contentand *gasp* users could make their own software after examining the included code. Even the GNU General Public License, which allows sale of modified code and/or incorporation into other commercial projects - with certain provisions - unlike the "open source" version, would force the big guys to admit they were using someone else's code, and THAT really pains 'em too.

Oh noes!

In what way is this attitude from these behemoths surprising..?

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Originally posted by DougAdams:

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free is the evil, to all corporations that care only for profits not their customers.

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