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movie shows twice during encoding
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ms_twana
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11. June 2004 @ 13:44 |
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Okay, I noticed that when I am backing up a movie, I see (from the preview screen) that it shows the movie twice. Is this normal? Is there a way for me to cut the second showing of the movie out? That would cut down drastically on my backup time.
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11. June 2004 @ 16:36 |
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Are you sure the first preview is encoding or is it analyzing? If your using shrink, you can uncheck "perform deep analysis".
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11. June 2004 @ 16:45 |
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ms-twana, what are you using when this happens? In recode you want to use advanced analysis, in shrink uncheck deep analysis.
 GO VOLS !This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 11. June 2004 @ 16:54
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michigan
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11. June 2004 @ 16:50 |
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You are using "deep anyalis" just uncheck it
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ms_twana
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11. June 2004 @ 17:37 |
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No, I'm not doing deep analysis. That option is not even highlighted for me to check it. I have noticed it twice now. The movie will play, end, then go again. No wonder it's taking 2 hours.
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ms_twana
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11. June 2004 @ 17:38 |
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Oh, and I using shrink.
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11. June 2004 @ 17:42 |
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The movie will play, end, then go again
When I use shrink (and I do use "perform deep analysis") it will analyize, then encode. When it analyizes I will see a preview, and when it encodes I will see a preview. Also post your system specs... There is a big time diffence between my two computers. Dell ... around 45 min from start to finish, Gateway around 2-2 1/2 hours.
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Buik
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11. June 2004 @ 18:08 |
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Which version of "Shrink" is being used?
Use "analysis" whenever you have shrink a movie down to fit on a standard DVD. That is, whenever you get a reading of less than 100%.
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ms_twana
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11. June 2004 @ 18:21 |
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No, it's not the analysis that I see first, this is after I click backup and the movie is actually backing up on my hd. I have windows ME, 511 mb ram, um..what else do you need to know?? And I'm using shrink 3.1.
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11. June 2004 @ 18:30 |
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ms_twana,
I'm not sure what to tell you. Cause the normal process is analize, encode, burn.
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11. June 2004 @ 18:56 |
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What are you using shrink with?
GO VOLS !
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ms_twana
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12. June 2004 @ 12:46 |
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nero, but I haven't made it that far. I'm just copying to my hard drive.
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12. June 2004 @ 13:34 |
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OK, you got nero, can't get shrink to work, I think I saw where you've got FAT and don't want to convert which limits you to file types, how about doing it on the fly? I do it %50 of the time(tho some don't like to in case there is a problem, so use a rw til you get the hang of it) and I've yet to burn a coaster, knock on wood. Install DVD43(it's free)that's it. Insert your movie and go directly into recode. Do there what you do in shrink(don't mess with menu, it doesn't take up that much space anyway and you'll end up with a fully working menu for your movie-something shrink can't do), compress, reauthor, whatever and go directly to burn. If you only have one dvd drive, put it in a folder and then from there burn. PS-be sure and check advanced analysis and burn at once.
GO VOLS !
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12. June 2004 @ 15:02 |
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ms_twana,
Your running Windows ME, 512MB RAM..
Is it ddr ram or sd ram? What is your processor? And also fast isn't always better. If it takes two hours it takes two hours... just as long as its successful. Most of the time its your system that will determine how fast the process.
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ms_twana
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12. June 2004 @ 15:03 |
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No, shrink is working fine. I'm sorry if I didn't explain right. When encoding a movie, the movie plays twice. And I just wanted to know if that was normal. Shrink will backup just fine.
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12. June 2004 @ 16:53 |
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sorry if I didn't explain right. When encoding a movie, the movie plays twice
ms_twana,
No you did explain correctly. But I still don't see how its encoding twice. I just backed up "Paycheck" and my process is Shrink to rip, create ISO file, burn with Decrytper. I enabled video preview...
Analyzing took 20 min
Encoding took 20 min
Burning took 9
And it only showed Analyzing once and Encoding once. What is your process? Again are you sure the first preview isn't analyzing? Do you see it analyzing before it encodes?
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ms_twana
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12. June 2004 @ 17:02 |
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Yeah, I'm sure. When I click open disc,it analyzes it first (which takes about 3 minutes), then I click backup and have it saved to the hd. And when it encodes, it shows the movie twice. After the second showing, it says backup successful completed, blah, blah, blah. And that takes about 2 hours. I have no idea why.
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12. June 2004 @ 17:17 |
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When I click open disc,it analyzes it first (which takes about 3 minutes)
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then I click backup and have it saved to the hd. And when it encodes, it shows the movie twice
Yes it will analyze when you first open the disc(2-3 min), then when you click backup it will analyze again(for me 20 min on my dell) then it will encode.
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ms_twana
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12. June 2004 @ 17:28 |
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OOOOH!!! So, how do I know the difference between analyzing and encoding? I guess that's why I see the movie twice.
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12. June 2004 @ 17:31 |
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ms_twana,
In the preview box, along the top it will say analyzing or encoding and the percentage. :)
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ms_twana
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13. June 2004 @ 08:33 |
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Once again, thanks Flip. I think you are my dvd burning guardian angel.
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hrdbawl
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14. June 2004 @ 11:42 |
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I seemed to have the same issue as ms_twana and you all seem to agree, "remove the tick from deep analysis" to stop what appears to be double work. However, I can't find this in Shrink 3.1.7.6 under the preferences. Can anyone tell me where it is? Thanks
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14. June 2004 @ 11:54 |
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you all seem to agree, "remove the tick from deep analysis" to stop what appears to be double work
Unchecking "perform deep analysis" will NOT stop the so called double work. Shrink will analize the disc or file upon opening, then it will analize again, then it will encode.
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I can't find this in Shrink 3.1.7.6 under the preferences
When you open Shrink, Click "backup!", I think its the third tab :)
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hrdbawl
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14. June 2004 @ 15:17 |
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Once again Flip218, thanks. But...I did go to preferences and I looked at least 3 times. I didn't see anything regarding "perform deep analysis". There are 5 tabs form Preferences to File I/O (I even looked again as I typed this out). No such thing. I don't even mind that it encodes it twice, but it takes 1-2 hours each time and my system isn't that slow. I have a PIII, 966 mhz, 25 gig free HDD, 512 memory etc. I am just trying to avoid the 3-4 hours of time it takes to get it on the HDD. The initial analyse takes 3-5 minutes. I choose what I want to keep, click on backup, then the analyse kicks in again for 1-2 hours, then the encoding for another 1-2 hours then the burn which takes about 15 minutes. Does this sound right? From all that I have read, it seems excessive. So...I went to look for the "perform deep analysis" which I thought was surely the problem, but here I am, can't find it. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Buik
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14. June 2004 @ 18:57 |
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I still use DVD Shrink 3.05 beta for alot of back-ups. It is less complicated for the beginner. It does give you the option of performing "deep analysis" when you go to "back-up". You do want to perform "Deep Analysis" whenever you are going to have to compress the movie down to where it will fit onto a DVD 5 disc.
Playing around, you can figure out the DVD Shrink options and what works for you and your computer. Keep in mind that shrink 3.1.7 also let's you run it at a lower priority so that you can multi task. In other words, use your computer for everything else while you are using it to back-up your DVD.
1-2 hours for analyisis and the same for encoding is way too long. Perhaps changing settings for the hardware are in order. Also, how the hardware is connected to the MB could be contributing to the slow speed.
Let's look at hardware configurations also.
What do you think Flip?
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