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Mozilla Firefox 4 is here
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article published on 22 March, 2011
Mozilla has launched Firefox 4 today, after 12 betas, 2 RCs and a year of development.
The browser offers a streamlined, minimalist user interface, hardware acceleration, speed boost, and added support for WebM and HTML5.
Mozilla notes that the browser is available for Mac, Windows, Linux and soon for Android.
Most of the speed boosts come via JavaScript engine enhancements, and ... [ read the full article ]
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22. March 2011 @ 17:30 |
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No thanks, I'm happy with my IE9. Firefox 4 has no Norton toolbar support (yet) and IE9 has both that and Google toolbar.
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22. March 2011 @ 18:15 |
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Originally posted by banzaigtv:
No thanks, I'm happy with my IE9. Firefox 4 has no Norton toolbar support (yet) and IE9 has both that and Google toolbar.
>IE9
>Norton
>Google
>Toolbars
Hi, you must be new to computers.
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Originally posted by banzaigtv:
No thanks, I'm happy with my IE9. Firefox 4 has no Norton toolbar support (yet) and IE9 has both that and Google toolbar.
i also welcome this person to the world of computers ;)
P.S you may want to start using a safer and better browser, and also suggest you look into kaspersky.
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22. March 2011 @ 20:05 |
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Don't listen to these fools. IE9 is just fine and there's nothing wrong with toolbars if that's your cup of tea. Norton is an excellent product. Maybe we should introdce these commenters to the world of computers, because apparently they're living in about 2006.
Glad to see Firefox 4 finally at release stage. It'll be interesting to see if they can keep up that plan they have for releases this year. I still think there's some things that I don't like about this version, but it's definitely a step in the right direction. They still have some work to do, but old Firefox problems from the past are starting to get some attention and we're seeing improvements. I migrate back and forth between Firefox and IE, so any improvements in either is a plus and we've seen those improvements with both. I'm not a big Chrome fan, but for those who like it, enjoy! Personally, I don't get off by knocking others choices, but as we can see, some people have nothing better to do.
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22. March 2011 @ 21:18 |
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I like the lay out better than previous versions. I'm on XP, so IE9 is out for me.
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Originally posted by StuBeef:
Don't listen to these fools. IE9 is just fine and there's nothing wrong with toolbars if that's your cup of tea. Norton is an excellent product. Maybe we should introdce these commenters to the world of computers, because apparently they're living in about 2006.
Glad to see Firefox 4 finally at release stage. It'll be interesting to see if they can keep up that plan they have for releases this year. I still think there's some things that I don't like about this version, but it's definitely a step in the right direction. They still have some work to do, but old Firefox problems from the past are starting to get some attention and we're seeing improvements. I migrate back and forth between Firefox and IE, so any improvements in either is a plus and we've seen those improvements with both. I'm not a big Chrome fan, but for those who like it, enjoy! Personally, I don't get off by knocking others choices, but as we can see, some people have nothing better to do.
Welcome to the computer world as well.
I think your missing the point in "bashing" the user. Sure it could have been done in a more productive way, but he is partly choosing to use IE9 based on security(hints the reference to Norton). Problem is he is using vastly inferior products for security measures. The Norton toolbar is useless if you have a quality security solution. Comodo Internet Security is a constant top 3(most often #1) security software suite avaliable.
http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/results.php
Look at that. Norton is rated #12. I suppose theres "nothing wrong" with that considering the number of apps reviewed. However, if you are serious about security, and think "theres nothing wrong with Norton" then think again.
As for IE9 well this sums it up well:
http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Releases+Internet+Explorer+9+Makes+a+Strong+Case+for+Business+Users/article21130.htm
My biggest problem with IE9 in terms of usability is the slowness, and no I dont have an ancient PC as you see from my sig.
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22. March 2011 @ 23:31 |
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Originally posted by ROMaster2:
Originally posted by banzaigtv:
No thanks, I'm happy with my IE9. Firefox 4 has no Norton toolbar support (yet) and IE9 has both that and Google toolbar.
>IE9
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Hi, you must be new to computers.
Uh, idiot, I have you know that I've been using computers for years. This is my third PC I ever owned. I was using Firefox 3 on my previous one, but I purchased this current PC with Norton 360 and Windows 7. I switched back to IE because the latest version is not only leaps and bounds better than its predecessors, but it also takes full advantage of Windows 7 and Norton 360 while posting website links' security statuses with icons. I just recently upgraded from IE8 and Norton 360 version 4.0 and installed IE9 along with Norton 360 version 5.0 as well as installing SP1 for Windows 7. Both IE9 and Norton 360 version 5.0 are so much improved over the older versions. If Firefox 4 eventually gets Norton toolbar support, then I'll look into it.
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22. March 2011 @ 23:48 |
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Originally posted by JGJD2001:
Originally posted by banzaigtv:
No thanks, I'm happy with my IE9. Firefox 4 has no Norton toolbar support (yet) and IE9 has both that and Google toolbar.
i also welcome this person to the world of computers ;)
P.S you may want to start using a safer and better browser, and also suggest you look into kaspersky.
I welcome you to the world of idiocy.
P.S. you may want to start using a browser that is safer, faster, and more resource-friendly than Firefox. IE9 has abilities exclusive to Windows 7, including pinning favorite sites, such as YouTube, to the taskbar. Not all corporate websites are compatible on third-party browsers. I also suggest you look into Norton 360, the world's most improved antivirus program with weblink security notifications and its own toolbar for Internet Explorer. You may think Norton slows down PCs. Not mine, especially when it has a quad-core processor and a truckload of RAM.
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22. March 2011 @ 23:53 |
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banzaigtv, maybe you should also read the forum rules about multi-posting before posting.
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Originally posted by ddp:
banzaigtv, maybe you should also read the forum rules about multi-posting before posting.
They are replies.
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I'm not sure what slowness you're referring to. I've used it extensively over the development phases and my personal experience far outweighs any, "supposed" review that may be posted on here. I could easily point out reviews that say the opposite of those saying it's slow, but really what's the point? Reviews are only as good as those doing the reviewing and everyone has their own bias toward any product/products. When my personal experience tells me that a review is a bad one (such as the one cited) than that review becomes worthless in my mind. The same holds true for Norton. There are plenty of reviews out there that state completely different results. Once again, I let my personal experience speak far more than anyone's review. Don't get me wrong, I like seeing reviews of products, but I take them all with a grain of salt and there's always an opposing one.
Considering the things that I stated in the first paragraph, I think you are the one missing the point. I've used the products that they've criticized and my experience tells me that neither IE9 nor Norton are inferior products. Were they perhaps inferior at one time? Sure, I'd agree that past products needed some work and I've used many others over these last couple of decades. Of course, that holds true of every other browser out there and every other piece of security software/hardware. They've all had successes and failures, but yet, only a few, "Big named" companies seem to get the hate and bias thrown their way, even when their products have been good and the competitor's have not been so good. I think that says a little something about what motivates people to make the comments that they make and that's why I don't take reviews/opinions all that seriously. I let my own experience do the talking and my experience is that IE9 is a fine product and Norton is an excellent product. They both still have work and improving to do, but so do their competitors.
I like to keep things unbiased and share my hands on experience. Unfortunately, I see very little of that from the majority of commenters on this or any other forum. I also see very little of this from those people we call professional reviewers/journalists. In fact, I tend to find more truth in personal reviews than I do these people who pretend to be pros who are unbiased.
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banzaigtv, doesn't matter as can be done in 1 post not 2 as per forum rules.
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I see people here knocking the new FF4 on it's release day most probably without having tried it. All the tub-thumping righteousness, lol. Everyone has some good points... but all that anger, haha. One can't expect members to not carry strong opinions on AD heh.
banzaigtv ~ the very video above states that FF4 has pinning for favourite sites in the first few seconds, rofl.
It's true some sites do not work with FF, but that is extremely rare nowadays. However, it's not a very good reason not to use FF. FF has a sizable percentage of the browser "market" so it's sensible for a site to cater for it. If you're a FF user IE is always there in Windows anyway in case you unluckily hit one.
Note that IBM have moved to a customised version of FF for in-company use. They consider it more secure.
It might have been stated earlier that Norton has improved before getting on the soapbox. But considering how bad it was it's perfectly reasonable to expect people to be dubious don't you think?. It would have to have come a very long way to catch up with other products out there and still that would not justify it's price in comparison.
Considering that every second application wants to add a bloody browser toolbar when it installs I find it incredible to believe that Norton has not catered for FF. It would totally be the exception and rather slack of them.
I totally agree that AV review sites are often dubious ~ going over them does my head in sometimes. Xplorer4, Comodo is probably a good AV. Having checked out it's site I could not clearly ascertain whether that included all malware or just viruses (a la Avira). I personally prefer to stick to a super fast single engine solution like Vipre. And it didn't even make your list! $50 (write to them for a $10 discount on top) and you have an unlimited multiple computers site installs for a year. How can Norton compete with that?
OR- and this is a huge "or" you can just download MS Security Essentials. Free... Ms is not allowed to advertise it or bundle it with Windows because of anti-trust considerations. But it does all viruses + malware and has a good rep. It did not make that list either!
I have a pretty good poot if I say so myself, still, I do consider it pretty silly to use that as an excuse to run (arguably) bloatware services. I do actually think it's reasonable to use IE because it integrates with Norton in a way that you like. But next year why not try MSSE above? It probably does an even better job of integrating with IE considering it's an MS product too.
I would have liked to have seen a proper 64 bit version of FF4 myself. But considering the enormous addon support for FF it may not have been practicable. It's moot, a well written program is a well written program regardless, whether it's in 32 or 64 bit. I look forward to trying it as soon as I can sort out the bookmarks side of things.
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
IE 9, Firefox 4, Chrome, and Opera go head to head in our latest Browser Speed Tests:
http://lifehac.kr/gRzFEh
Ya gotta love LifeHacker.
I see LastPass acquired Xmarks. Well, I guess that solves any bookmarks issues... full steam ahead!
I also have an opinion here that later versions of FF4 may get faster.
A note about Chrome in the above comparison... bah! I don't care if it was instantaneous. Every time I used it it would load up DoubleClick, something Spybot considers spyware. Yes Google own Doubleclick:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DoubleClick
Cost them US $3.1 billion!!!!
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Originally posted by Xplorer4:
Originally posted by StuBeef:
Don't listen to these fools. IE9 is just fine and there's nothing wrong with toolbars if that's your cup of tea. Norton is an excellent product. Maybe we should introdce these commenters to the world of computers, because apparently they're living in about 2006.
Glad to see Firefox 4 finally at release stage. It'll be interesting to see if they can keep up that plan they have for releases this year. I still think there's some things that I don't like about this version, but it's definitely a step in the right direction. They still have some work to do, but old Firefox problems from the past are starting to get some attention and we're seeing improvements. I migrate back and forth between Firefox and IE, so any improvements in either is a plus and we've seen those improvements with both. I'm not a big Chrome fan, but for those who like it, enjoy! Personally, I don't get off by knocking others choices, but as we can see, some people have nothing better to do.
Welcome to the computer world as well.
I think your missing the point in "bashing" the user. Sure it could have been done in a more productive way, but he is partly choosing to use IE9 based on security(hints the reference to Norton). Problem is he is using vastly inferior products for security measures. The Norton toolbar is useless if you have a quality security solution. Comodo Internet Security is a constant top 3(most often #1) security software suite avaliable.
http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/results.php
Look at that. Norton is rated #12. I suppose theres "nothing wrong" with that considering the number of apps reviewed. However, if you are serious about security, and think "theres nothing wrong with Norton" then think again.
As for IE9 well this sums it up well:
http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Releases+Internet+Explorer+9+Makes+a+Strong+Case+for+Business+Users/article21130.htm
My biggest problem with IE9 in terms of usability is the slowness, and no I dont have an ancient PC as you see from my sig.
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
Comodo News: 3-23-2011
Iranian hackers obtain fraudulent HTTPS certificates:
http://goo.gl/fb/0EQYc
Crikey, that seems really bloody serious... definitely worth a news report on AD on its own. Iran! And I thought the Chinese gov was bad in this regard... we dodged a bullet there.
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
Comodo News: 3-23-2011
Iranian hackers obtain fraudulent HTTPS certificates:
http://goo.gl/fb/0EQYc
Interesting news, but keep in mind, as scarey as this is, it actually has nothing to do with there security software suite by Comodo reviewed in the link I posted. I know Comodo certificates are used by many government officials, but the problem is, where there is a will there is a way. Just like DRM methods, nothing is hack proof.
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Originally posted by Xplorer4:
Originally posted by Mrguss:
Comodo News: 3-23-2011
Iranian hackers obtain fraudulent HTTPS certificates:
http://goo.gl/fb/0EQYc
Interesting news, but keep in mind, as scarey as this is, it actually has nothing to do with there security software suite by Comodo reviewed in the link I posted. I know Comodo certificates are used by many government officials, but the problem is, where there is a will there is a way. Just like DRM methods, nothing is hack proof.
"The Obvious thing"
Visualized: Preconceived Notions about PC Security.
http://engt.co/fkLObA
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
Originally posted by Xplorer4:
Originally posted by Mrguss:
Comodo News: 3-23-2011
Iranian hackers obtain fraudulent HTTPS certificates:
http://goo.gl/fb/0EQYc
Interesting news, but keep in mind, as scarey as this is, it actually has nothing to do with there security software suite by Comodo reviewed in the link I posted. I know Comodo certificates are used by many government officials, but the problem is, where there is a will there is a way. Just like DRM methods, nothing is hack proof.
"The Obvious thing"
Visualized: Preconceived Notions about PC Security.
http://engt.co/fkLObA
I liked your previous post but I'm sorry mate but I found that link to be not very useful, as an illustration or a "visualization". Would you mind explaining its relevance? It's all very well to point to a relatively cryptic chart and say "see that proves most people don't care, aren't very well protected or savvy" as it says in the text.
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