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Mozilla Firefox 4 is here
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article published on 22 March, 2011
Mozilla has launched Firefox 4 today, after 12 betas, 2 RCs and a year of development.
The browser offers a streamlined, minimalist user interface, hardware acceleration, speed boost, and added support for WebM and HTML5.
Mozilla notes that the browser is available for Mac, Windows, Linux and soon for Android.
Most of the speed boosts come via JavaScript engine enhancements, and ... [ read the full article ]
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elitepunk
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25. March 2011 @ 15:56 |
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Cool story. maybe ill stick to new firefox portable versions and the installed version of 2.0.0.20 tho ;-) cuz 2 still rox my sox...know what i mean? ;-)
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25. March 2011 @ 15:58 |
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It's nice to see FF improve on the private browser and their speed other than that version 4 is no biggy to me but I'll use it.
I won't use IE9, Norton, or McAfee junk period. The new IE9 makes the Vista OS as a new release look great and it is very slow, horribly slow! Anyone who thinks different is a novice at best.
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25. March 2011 @ 16:02 |
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Originally posted by elitepunk:
Cool story. maybe ill stick to new firefox portable versions and the installed version of 2.0.0.20 tho ;-) cuz 2 still rox my sox...know what i mean? ;-)
No, I don't. :P
The new FF4 has blown me away.
I can always run it in Sandboxie if I want comlpete security..
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dbminter
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25. March 2011 @ 16:42 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
I have a pretty good poot if I say so myself
I did a double take when I first read this. Then, I realized the shorthand being used. Still, you have to expect someone might be a little surprised by it. :)
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25. March 2011 @ 16:45 |
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Tried it but had to return to Firefox 3.16 due to missing modules and missing information on some websites. Tried it last week. I'll wait a while for them to get the bugs out. Maybe a couple of months.
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25. March 2011 @ 16:53 |
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Originally posted by dbminter:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
I have a pretty good poot if I say so myself
I did a double take when I first read this. Then, I realized the shorthand being used. Still, you have to expect someone might be a little surprised by it. :)
You'r the first to ever comment..... Would you prefer "pooter"?
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25. March 2011 @ 18:21 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
Longtime user of 3.x. Have just installed 4.0, never tried any test versions of 4, i like it so far.
I recently dumped 3.xx whatever it was LOL! VERY slow, and lots of crashes. I tried multiple beta releases of version 4. I stopped using it though because Hotmail was acting up big time! Since they've released version 4 into the wild, I'll give it another shot. Or rather the first shot ;) I'm currently using chrome, and it is agreeable. But I prefer firefox. I like the way it is configured.
Computers I've worked on running Norton, ran very slow. It's obviously a resource pig. Just an observation. It's also expensive. Hope it's worth it...
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25. March 2011 @ 19:26 |
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Better start-up times?? i clocked it with the same annoying slow opening. I had to install Firefox Preloader and now start up in 3 secs max.
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25. March 2011 @ 19:49 |
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Originally posted by JGJD2001:
Originally posted by banzaigtv:
No thanks, I'm happy with my IE9. Firefox 4 has no Norton toolbar support (yet) and IE9 has both that and Google toolbar.
i also welcome this person to the world of computers ;)
P.S you may want to start using a safer and better browser, and also suggest you look into kaspersky.
LMAO. Oh snap. Funny.
Purchased the new computer with Norton on it... hmm let me guess, Compaq/HP/Acer/Lenovo?
Yep you have been using computers for years, yet you continue to buy off the shelf rubbish. Try Nod32 or BitDefender at with those two they ranked number 1 and 2.
I tried it. They can stick it for the following resons
1/ I use Ronoform, wih FF4 I have to buy the latest version of Roboform for it to work. I have payed for it once and should not have to just because FF4 does not support it.
2/ If I wanted to use Opera I would use it.
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25. March 2011 @ 20:27 |
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Nod32, BitDefender rated #1 & #2? What paid for poll did you get that from? I'm not saying that Nod32 isn't OK however BD is over rated I wouldn't touch it. More so my point would be with security software these days you can find 10 different sites each with totally different top rated programs. Most, if not all, are biased by advertising and/or partnership relations. When any of my friends or acquaintances talk about or ask me about antivirus software I tell them to ignore these misleading polls. Periodically I test drive 20 security packages and one of the better performers typically is Kaspersky IS, Nod is OK but I don't like their general practices. I use AVG since it has gotten better recently but allows me better control over false positives and they are not so rigid with the amount of PC's you install it on. My 3 user license is actually installed on about 7 PC's, I only use 3-4 of them most of the time but I'm protected on all of them all of the time at a much cheaper price than other programs.
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bluedogs
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25. March 2011 @ 20:44 |
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I would love to use Kaspersky but everytime I go to use it crashes my computer. Even after a building a new computer it still crashed it, so I gave up on it.
You can install NOD32 and BD on many systems as well. I brought a copy NOD32 SS and installed it on all 5 computers here and 4 others belonging to friends. Same goes with BD but used on less systems. The only issue I have with BD is sometimes after a series of updates it slows down the computer. That's why I use NOD32. Norton on the other locks people out of their computer, the amount of friends that has happened to is amazing.
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25. March 2011 @ 20:56 |
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There's a Win 7 x64 bit version of the free Microsoft Security Essentials too. LOL
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25. March 2011 @ 21:55 |
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Jemborg, replace the "t" of poot with a "p" as that is what i thought at 1st.
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25. March 2011 @ 22:29 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
Jemborg, replace the "t" of poot with a "p" as that is what i thought at 1st.
Good thing you didn't replace it with an "f".
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25. March 2011 @ 23:27 |
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Pay for security ware ever again no thanks as for ff4 it better support in "all in one sidebar"
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25. March 2011 @ 23:28 |
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Re: Norton - While the Norton security suite isn't quite as bad as it used to be, it's still rather bloated, plus it indulges in rather questionable practices. Specifically, it'll quite often silently delete files it determines to be "viral", simply because no one in the cloud is using that software yet ("global whitelisting"). On the Norton forums, you can read page after page after... ad nauseam of software devs and business IT guys screaming bloody murder as Norton deletes half their company-specific code, especially if it (*gasp!*) uses any kind of encryption. It also will NOT respect user exclusions in these cases -.-' . That's simply inexcusable.
Re: Comodo - Yes, Comodo has spyware protection, both standalone and as part of its security suite. It's also built into the standalone AV.
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25. March 2011 @ 23:52 |
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Originally posted by Bozobub:
Re: Norton - While the Norton security suite isn't quite as bad as it used to be, it's still rather bloated, plus it indulges in rather questionable practices. Specifically, it'll quite often silently delete files it determines to be "viral", simply because no one in the cloud is using that software yet ("global whitelisting"). On the Norton forums, you can read page after page after... ad nauseam of software devs and business IT guys screaming bloody murder as Norton deletes half their company-specific code, especially if it (*gasp!*) uses any kind of encryption. It also will NOT respect user exclusions in these cases -.-' . That's simply inexcusable.
Re: Comodo - Yes, Comodo has spyware protection, both standalone and as part of its security suite. It's also built into the standalone AV.
Your right about Norton but they are not the only ones that do that, many do these days.
Comodo a year or so ago was horrible but their new interface is pretty good. I just installed the internet suite on a friends computer and save him $70 after cleaning out all of the spyware on his notebook and restoring his Desktop and personal folders which one of the malware programs hid. I use it on some of my PC's as well and at one time was using AVG free with the firewall from Comodo's suite but now Comodo is so good for a free package that I just use it and not AVG free with it anymore.
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26. March 2011 @ 03:38 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by Bozobub:
Re: Norton - While the Norton security suite isn't quite as bad as it used to be, it's still rather bloated, plus it indulges in rather questionable practices. Specifically, it'll quite often silently delete files it determines to be "viral", simply because no one in the cloud is using that software yet ("global whitelisting"). On the Norton forums, you can read page after page after... ad nauseam of software devs and business IT guys screaming bloody murder as Norton deletes half their company-specific code, especially if it (*gasp!*) uses any kind of encryption. It also will NOT respect user exclusions in these cases -.-' . That's simply inexcusable.
Re: Comodo - Yes, Comodo has spyware protection, both standalone and as part of its security suite. It's also built into the standalone AV.
Your right about Norton but they are not the only ones that do that, many do these days.
Comodo a year or so ago was horrible but their new interface is pretty good. I just installed the internet suite on a friends computer and save him $70 after cleaning out all of the spyware on his notebook and restoring his Desktop and personal folders which one of the malware programs hid. I use it on some of my PC's as well and at one time was using AVG free with the firewall from Comodo's suite but now Comodo is so good for a free package that I just use it and not AVG free with it anymore.
Cheers, I went back and rechecked, I only had a hurried look b4 at the promo pages not the download ones.
You know Xplorer4, Bozobub, Mr-Movies, I'm really intrigued. I'd like to give Comodo a go... I assume it's fast and single engine?
But which one.... AV or Internet security? Are they the same resource-wise? The former seems to have a quarantine and the latter Malicious website filtering. I've had, for instance, had some game mod apps that have upset a couple of AVs in the past (till they were whitelisted).
I'm tempted to give the AV version a go as I already use WOT for Malicious website filtering and Sandboxie FF if I think it's appropriate (plus EasyPrivacy etc.). I'm not keen on having a file deleted without me having a look at it first. But I'd love to hear from you chaps as to your opinion.
I'm not worried about the SSL Certificate breach and I'm not surprised they were attacked. Comodo was pretty fast spotting it, to their credit, and once bitten...
For the record I suspect MS Security Essentials to be a bit bloaty and it certainly does not have those unique features of Comodo.
Mr-Movies... your friend's problem above reminded me of the times I've had to use Combofix in similar situations for clients. When all else fails it's worth a go. It's a DOS based solution for when you get something really nasty (probably a new mal) that cripples regular security apps. You still have to run an AV after. Have you heard of it? In case you haven't... always get the latest one, run it from your desktop, don't touch the mouse or keyboard unless it tells you to and always get it from BleepingComputer ~ http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/combofix/how-to-use-combofix.
Its saved those client's butts. And the times I used it, it did not delete any personal files ~ I believe that some people that have had that happen do not realise that they were hopelessly corrupted anyway; even if they appeared to be there before ComboFix was run.
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26. March 2011 @ 04:31 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by Bozobub:
Re: Norton - While the Norton security suite isn't quite as bad as it used to be, it's still rather bloated, plus it indulges in rather questionable practices. Specifically, it'll quite often silently delete files it determines to be "viral", simply because no one in the cloud is using that software yet ("global whitelisting"). On the Norton forums, you can read page after page after... ad nauseam of software devs and business IT guys screaming bloody murder as Norton deletes half their company-specific code, especially if it (*gasp!*) uses any kind of encryption. It also will NOT respect user exclusions in these cases -.-' . That's simply inexcusable.
Re: Comodo - Yes, Comodo has spyware protection, both standalone and as part of its security suite. It's also built into the standalone AV.
Your right about Norton but they are not the only ones that do that, many do these days.
Comodo a year or so ago was horrible but their new interface is pretty good. I just installed the internet suite on a friends computer and save him $70 after cleaning out all of the spyware on his notebook and restoring his Desktop and personal folders which one of the malware programs hid. I use it on some of my PC's as well and at one time was using AVG free with the firewall from Comodo's suite but now Comodo is so good for a free package that I just use it and not AVG free with it anymore.
Cheers, I went back and rechecked, I only had a hurried look b4 at the promo pages not the download ones.
You know Xplorer4, Bozobub, Mr-Movies, I'm really intrigued. I'd like to give Comodo a go... I assume it's fast and single engine?
But which one.... AV or Internet security? Are they the same resource-wise? The former seems to have a quarantine and the latter Malicious website filtering. I've had, for instance, had some game mod apps that have upset a couple of AVs in the past (till they were whitelisted).
I'm tempted to give the AV version a go as I already use WOT for Malicious website filtering and Sandboxie FF if I think it's appropriate (plus EasyPrivacy etc.). I'm not keen on having a file deleted without me having a look at it first. But I'd love to hear from you chaps as to your opinion.
I'm not worried about the SSL Certificate breach and I'm not surprised they were attacked. Comodo was pretty fast spotting it, to their credit, and once bitten...
For the record I suspect MS Security Essentials to be a bit bloaty and it certainly does not have those unique features of Comodo.
Mr-Movies... your friend's problem above reminded me of the times I've had to use Combofix in similar situations for clients. When all else fails it's worth a go. It's a DOS based solution for when you get something really nasty (probably a new mal) that cripples regular security apps. You still have to run an AV after. Have you heard of it? In case you haven't... always get the latest one, run it from your desktop, don't touch the mouse or keyboard unless it tells you to and always get it from BleepingComputer ~ http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/combofix/how-to-use-combofix.
Its saved those client's butts. And the times I used it, it did not delete any personal files ~ I believe that some people that have had that happen do not realise that they were hopelessly corrupted anyway; even if they appeared to be there before ComboFix was run.
Regards.
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If you think ms security is bloated your gonna love comodo *italics*,i've still got comodo firewall installed however it's antivirus is a joke & needs major work unless in the last 4 months they've fixed all the false positives,i gave it two days then got pissed off & uninstalled it even the firewall it's self can be a bugger,mind you i don't have a multi core comp so when cfp.exe uses 90% it's make a cuppa time..lol..
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26. March 2011 @ 06:33 |
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Ignor scorpNZ as Comodo has gotten much better, it's not perfect but it is free and for the free packages out there i.e., AVG/Avast it is the better in my opinion. Like I said before I wasn't a fan until recently and I've been playing with it for many years now.
Jemborg, Use the Internet Suite (Firewall/Antivirus) you can always choose to use either or both once installed and these days it is better to use both even if you are using sandbox tools or not. Don't install the community bs. I've heard of Combofix but have never used it but will check it out. Normally I just boot into safe mode or use the bootup command console if I need to take care of a real nasty but of course that doesn't always do the trick so it is nice to have other tools as well. The configuration tools can take a little to get use to and most stuff you'll find on the others tab if I recall correctly.
These days ALL protection suites are plagued with false positives "ALL" so that is hardly an arguement as I don't see Comodo being any worst than the rest of the pack. But that is why I use AVG IS, it's far from perfect but if I turn off Resident Shield and sometimes Identity Protection I avoid all of that nosense.
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Only other thing i'll mention is get a imaging software there's no substitute for a backup when the proverbial hits the fan & in no particular order & the 3 that i can remember,there's two more freebies but their names escape me for now, however you need to create image files (image files are basicly shall we say an iso of our installed software only including partition layout & mbr) on different drives & whatever you do don't drop n drag an image as that's a sure fire way to get a corrupted transfer,nothing worse than a backup that fails to restore & yep that's from personal experience.
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I tried avast over a year ago man that thing would scan anything that loaded even web pages it was annoying waiting for it to finish,can't recall why i removed avg as for the false positives i mentioned that comodo antivirus threw up it wasn't normal pretty much every few seconds or so it even flagged IE amongst other normal xp files which others never did it made xp hard to work with & when cfp.exe would run at the same time the comp was un-responsive,changing the settings didn't do anything to help however once the antivirus was removed all was fine so it's good to hear they have curbed it's rigorousness..lmao
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26. March 2011 @ 22:14 |
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I agree about Avast every time I've played with it I remember why I don't use it. Comodo use to be a real resource hog they have streamlined it and in doing so there is less annoying alerts. There is something else I turn off that I haven't mentioned but I do it automatically when I see it and forget how they term it, which doesn't help here of course but if someone mentioned it the bell would ring.
I typically use TrueImage for my backup tool but you can also use Windows 7 image tool if you wanted a free tool. It definitely is nothing great and very limiting to how you backup or what you backup. Paragon also makes a backup tool as well as some others, I haven't played with Paragon's tool yet.
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26. March 2011 @ 22:34 |
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Yeah! Firefox 4 doesn't have the hotmail issue! Thank you very much for correcting this nasty issue developers ;)
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28. March 2011 @ 05:54 |
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Cheers Mr-Movies and ScorpNZ,
To be honest about MS Security Essentials 2, one old computer I put it on seemed to work fine but a couple of others not so good but they had been behaving strangely anyway, one was a netbook where it wouldn't install properly and the other , well, it was an old crappy Dell... nuff' said. Also there may be different versions of MSSE for XP and Win7 x64. The concensus is that it's not bad but not great, some think it's in it's early days ~ you can opt out of sending personal info now.
I'm primarily looking for a decent single virus and malware solution that I can install on client's pooters. One free and self-updating so I can set it and forget it. I headed over to cnet to check out a few reviews.
AVG was a real hog in the past... but that seems to have changed, it's pretty popular. Avast claims to have changed too, it's popular too but I read some pretty nasty comments. I could not get any info on Avira's currant anti-malware capacity so I assume that's unchanged, i.e. almost non-existant. Comodo still seems to be the go overall. Mr-Movies, does it's Internet Suite have a quarantine feature as well?
Everything I've read so far indicates that Vipre is still the best pay-for solution and the cheapest. AU$39.74 for a 1 year Unlimited Home Site License ~ if you enter the coupon code VIPRECHAT or PCANTIVIRUSREVIEWS. You could do all your mates' pooters as well. :)
It's ok with Spybot. Which I would still like to use for immunising FF (I think the last time I picked up spyware was when I tried Google's DoubleClick Installer, oops, I mean Chrome). Just don't use TeaTimer or scan at the same time. I don't think that I can automate the immunise process in Spybot- browsers have to be off- so it's not the solution for clients.
It's the solution for me though. I'll combine Vipre with Commodo Firewall as you spoke of it so highly Mr-M. Commodo Internet Suite or AVG I think for the clients.
I am in the process of backing up all my stuff anyway, getting set for a fresh OS install. I'll get onto an Partition Image app ~ I assume they can use a USB HDD?
Regards, all the best.
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Yes, Comodo has a vault.
Vipre, I've tested it several times and you couldn't pay me to use it, it is horrible! It does its own thing and makes it very difficult to control. I've lost good files due to it because of its know-it-all approach so even if it was free I wouldn't suggest it.
Once again polls are a joke and the average person out there would tell you McCrappy and Norton are good, so that is certainly not an endorsement. For customers I always suggest or push Kaspersky IS as it truly seems to be the best. If you are a power user and create tweak tools then I would suggest AVG IS as you can turn off the Resident Shield & IPS and won't have to be worried about nags and removal/blockage of good tools the program would think was dangerous.
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