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article published on 22 March, 2011
Mozilla has launched Firefox 4 today, after 12 betas, 2 RCs and a year of development.
The browser offers a streamlined, minimalist user interface, hardware acceleration, speed boost, and added support for WebM and HTML5.
Mozilla notes that the browser is available for Mac, Windows, Linux and soon for Android.
Most of the speed boosts come via JavaScript engine enhancements, and ... [ read the full article ]
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28. March 2011 @ 11:24 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Yes, Comodo has a vault.
Vipre, I've tested it several times and you couldn't pay me to use it, it is horrible! It does its own thing and makes it very difficult to control. I've lost good files due to it because of its know-it-all approach so even if it was free I wouldn't suggest it.
Once again polls are a joke and the average person out there would tell you McCrappy and Norton are good, so that is certainly not an endorsement. For customers I always suggest or push Kaspersky IS as it truly seems to be the best. If you are a power user and create tweak tools then I would suggest AVG IS as you can turn off the Resident Shield & IPS and won't have to be worried about nags and removal/blockage of good tools the program would think was dangerous.
Well, fair enough about Vipre.
I have one friend that just loves it, swears by it, he is usually a fairly good judge. And yeah on wifey's netbook (win7) I've tried it and it appears not bad...
But on another desktop it's locked the whole thing up when it starts a scan! Utter and total. Ok, there's a few problems with that XP OS.... it's just time for a clean OS reinstall, as I mentioned. I'll see how the new AVG goes on it in the meantime.
Unfortunately, Kaspersky is not free, though I know it's good.
Heh, ironically, as far as security goes we personally just hibernate the win7 netbook, boot up Puppy Distro from a SD card to do any financial stuff then reboot.
I'll keep an open mind for now and give the Vipre another chance on a fresh install, I may be able to get a handle on it... too many conflicting reports. Same as with motherboard manufacturers haha. I'll just have to suck it and see...
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28. March 2011 @ 12:19 |
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If Vipre works for you that's great and all that matters you are right it is a resource hog amongst other things. I still think you're better off with just one package and since Comodo is pretty decent I don't know why you would play with both but it is a good way to learn and see what you like better. Just don't have both anti-viruses working at the same time or two firewalls for that reason.
Speaking of that no matter what you use make sure Windows Firewall gets disabled as sometimes these security programs fail to shutdown Windows Firewall.
Good luck!
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28. March 2011 @ 13:54 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Just don't have both anti-viruses working at the same time or two firewalls for that reason.
I certainly didn't mean to give the impression I would. And I will double-check Win Firewall is disabled, I've been caught by that before.
I certainly hope I haven't sounded dismissive, it honestly has a good rep with, well, several people I know, who have not complained of missing deleted files and resource hogging and they are reasonably clued in too. Still, I may come a cropper, as they say, since I seem to get up to more "stuff" in general, I'll let you know if I do. I just want to give it a fair go.
I've heard it doesn't work with Comodo Firewall and Spybot anyway. Doesn't seem to complain about Clamwin and MBAM presence in their on-demand capacity.
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29. March 2011 @ 00:20 |
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I would also recommend Acronis if you were after an imaging app unfortunatly symatec have dropped the ball with ghost this time round & yeah you can save images anywhere you want even to dvd not that i'd recommend it, (saving to dvd that is)the thing is you will need two images of each on seperate hdd's,personally i create i think it's 6 one time images then create weekly throw way images as the first 5 i use as my base image set:
1-after install & no updates basicly a fresh install of windows (used as last resort or for major software changes)
2-add a few favourite apps that are light
3-Fully update
4-Add rest of software starting with most often used finishing with least used
5-final image after two weeks or so to make sure everything is stable & update any 3rd party sotware that requires it
If your wondering why i use the 5 images instead of just waiting till i've added all software & updates it's pretty much down to stability & if need be can start over without having to reinstall everything depending on which image i use
Edit: just for the record i have two of everything so i do practice what i preach well most of the time hehehe
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29. March 2011 @ 00:44 |
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I've already had lockups with Firefox 4. I believe Hotmail may have something to do with it to. This is really beginning to irritate me. I've been with hotmail since 2003...
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29. March 2011 @ 01:38 |
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I use TrueImage all the time and always backup to DVD-RW's or just DVD-R's and it works great, no scatches but again I'm not a putz I handle my discs with care just like hdd's or any other electrical device, in those cases I observe ESD. What I typically do is initially create my DVD size backup to the hdd and then burn them to disc afterwards but you don't have to do it that way.
I kind of figured there would be issues at first with FF4, not surprised...
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30. March 2011 @ 00:36 |
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Originally posted by scorpNZ:
I would also recommend Acronis if you were after an imaging app unfortunatly symatec have dropped the ball with ghost this time round & yeah you can save images anywhere you want even to dvd not that i'd recommend it, (saving to dvd that is)the thing is you will need two images of each on seperate hdd's,personally i create i think it's 6 one time images then create weekly throw way images as the first 5 i use as my base image set:
1-after install & no updates basicly a fresh install of windows (used as last resort or for major software changes)
2-add a few favourite apps that are light
3-Fully update
4-Add rest of software starting with most often used finishing with least used
5-final image after two weeks or so to make sure everything is stable & update any 3rd party sotware that requires it
If your wondering why i use the 5 images instead of just waiting till i've added all software & updates it's pretty much down to stability & if need be can start over without having to reinstall everything depending on which image i use
Edit: just for the record i have two of everything so i do practice what i preach well most of the time hehehe
Well, that is rather a lot, I would have thought starting at the third stage would be sufficient since the SP1 update.
Significantly, one thing I've had problems with is the optional updates (most notably wireless adapter drivers) they are often outdated or just bugger up. I'll check out what they suggest but I'd rather get those drivers etc. from the maker's sites. One guy I know thought his new eMachine netbook was "g" wireless only lol.
I personally have not had any significant problems with the new FF4 yet. I've completely configured it's interface to a new lean mean look which is especially nice for the netbook. Shame about your hotmail woes Omegaman7. Is it possible to try a new service and pop your Hotmail through?
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30. March 2011 @ 00:46 |
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I suppose I could have my emails forwarded from hotmail to a new address. I'll give them a little more time :p I wonder about the problem being M$'s. See...it seems to refresh on it's own at regular intervals. That way I don't have to click inbox to see if I have new mail. It updates itself in real time. Obviously they have bugs to work out. I wonder if an SSD would help with this problem. Given the Latency of Solid State Disks, it'd be an interesting experiment. But it may simply be effecting firefox for all I know. I know it's not as bad as 3.6 was. So maybe they're well on their way :)
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30. March 2011 @ 00:54 |
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It's not a good idea to use Microsofts recomended drivers for your hardware, they have screwed me many times over and the few times they are the correct driver, so it doesn't warrant taking the chance.
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30. March 2011 @ 01:02 |
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I don't see how Micro$ofts drivers relate to this? I logon to hotmail via Firefox. I've also had Chrome lockup as well. I really wonder what they did to hotmail. It started a few months ago.
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30. March 2011 @ 01:20 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I don't see how Micro$ofts drivers relate to this? I logon to hotmail via Firefox. I've also had Chrome lockup as well. I really wonder what they did to hotmail. It started a few months ago.
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Significantly, one thing I've had problems with is the optional updates (most notably wireless adapter drivers) they are often outdated or just bugger up. I'll check out what they suggest but I'd rather get those drivers etc. from the maker's sites. One guy I know thought his new eMachine netbook was "g" wireless only lol.
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30. March 2011 @ 02:33 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I don't see how Micro$ofts drivers relate to this? I logon to hotmail via Firefox. I've also had Chrome lockup as well. I really wonder what they did to hotmail. It started a few months ago.
Sorry for the confusion Omega. The first part of my post #57 was a reply to ScorpNZ concerning his backup practices (see its included quote). The part about the updating and drivers was in reference to that.
The last paragraph was addressed to you primarily... I know it's contentious (re: privacy) but I use Gmail. No lockups with FF4 yet. With Adblock Plus I don't get bothered their ads. It's a pretty functional real-time updating online mail service with many handy features and you could easily pop your Hotmail through.
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30. March 2011 @ 02:36 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
I don't see how Micro$ofts drivers relate to this? I logon to hotmail via Firefox. I've also had Chrome lockup as well. I really wonder what they did to hotmail. It started a few months ago.
Sorry for the confusion Omega. The first part of my post #57 was a reply to ScorpNZ concerning his backup practices (see its included quote). The part about the updating and drivers was in reference to that.
The last paragraph was addressed to you primarily... I know it's contentious (re: privacy) but I use Gmail. No lockups with FF4 yet. With Adblock Plus I don't get bothered their ads. It's a pretty functional real-time updating online mail service with many handy features and you could easily pop your Hotmail through.
Thanks man. I could be tempted here real soon.
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30. March 2011 @ 06:59 |
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No problems here with Hotmail nor Gmail thru FF4.0, across my various machines. Am glad that AdBlock Plus is working, can't tolerate surfing anywhere without it, i simply cannot abide adverts distracting me or trying to sneak malware my way.
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30. March 2011 @ 08:30 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
No problems here with Hotmail nor Gmail thru FF4.0, across my various machines. Am glad that AdBlock Plus is working, can't tolerate surfing anywhere without it, i simply cannot abide adverts distracting me or trying to sneak malware my way.
Likewise. You know about the subscription (Rick's) EasyPrivacy as well as the EasyList one? It's at it's home page here.
How ever many lists you add (e.g.Fanboy), it's easy to head into AB+'s preferences hit the "!" on the table and look for doubling up... look for the snails. Interesting to hit "hits" too. Love the way it just blocks them from downloading not just prevents them from being displayed.
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30. March 2011 @ 09:46 |
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Thanks, i was only using the default subscription, didn't realise there were other lists. I'll 'set and forget' the extra list subscriptions
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30. March 2011 @ 09:55 |
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Me too, that's great thanks twice...
I just upgraded and it is much faster, sweet!
So far I like it better I'll have to play with FF today more...
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30. March 2011 @ 11:55 |
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Poor old Rick. He is an unsung saint of the interwebz, may he rest in peace. Tearing down the billboards and exposing the scenery on the great information superhighway. Hoisting the sails of understanding and riding the pirate ship of truth. May he get a condo on the beer volcano and unlimited credit at the stripper factory. Ramen.
At least his good work carries on.
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30. March 2011 @ 13:01 |
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FF4 crashes way too easy. Videos I can play in IE, Avant, Chrome, and Iron with no ploblem at all but crash FF4. Great programming as usual Mozilla. Looks like if I want to use FF I need to go back to 3.6x.
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30. March 2011 @ 13:36 |
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Crap, I am going to have to remove AVG before it compromises my XP setup further. Great, another few hours wasted while I try to piece it all back together. What a mess. :/
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30. March 2011 @ 13:43 |
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I use AVG because it's not intrusive, do you have Resident Shield enabled? I always disable that and sometimes IPS as well.
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30. March 2011 @ 18:02 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
I use AVG because it's not intrusive, do you have Resident Shield enabled? I always disable that and sometimes IPS as well.
Yes, that's disabled now. Wish it was a bit easier to create exceptions i.e. just asks me if I want it to be whitelisted. It's a lean mean false-positive machine. If I ditch it I may be able to recover what's not been vaulted. I suppose I will have to run FF Sanboxied. What's IPS?
I just don't have the time for this malarky, I'm so flat out nowadays.
Is it Flash playing you're having problems with, like YouTube etc.? On my old "needs a clean reinstall" XP I have heaps of probs with it. But none with Win7.
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30. March 2011 @ 18:20 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
I use AVG because it's not intrusive, do you have Resident Shield enabled? I always disable that and sometimes IPS as well.
Yes, that's disabled now. Wish it was a bit easier to create exceptions i.e. just asks me if I want it to be whitelisted. It's a lean mean false-positive machine. If I ditch it I may be able to recover what's not been vaulted. I suppose I will have to run FF Sanboxied. What's IPS?
I just don't have the time for this malarky, I'm so flat out nowadays.
Is it Flash playing you're having problems with, like YouTube etc.? On my old "needs a clean reinstall" XP I have heaps of probs with it. But none with Win7.
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IPS is Identification Protect but the key one is RS as it scans active folders your in or things you open realtime. If you disable these features you should go into Tools/Advanced Settings/Ignore Faulty Conditions and turn off notifications for those.
In Advanced Settings you can setup exceptions as well, AVG is confusing in that area and like you I think they should ask you what you want to do at the time however there are those that prefer the way AVG handles it now, people that don't know better that is.
Yes it is Flash that is crashing FF!
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30. March 2011 @ 18:49 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
I use AVG because it's not intrusive, do you have Resident Shield enabled? I always disable that and sometimes IPS as well.
Yes, that's disabled now. Wish it was a bit easier to create exceptions i.e. just asks me if I want it to be whitelisted. It's a lean mean false-positive machine. If I ditch it I may be able to recover what's not been vaulted. I suppose I will have to run FF Sanboxied. What's IPS?
I just don't have the time for this malarky, I'm so flat out nowadays.
Is it Flash playing you're having problems with, like YouTube etc.? On my old "needs a clean reinstall" XP I have heaps of probs with it. But none with Win7.
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IPS is Identification Protect but the key one is RS as it scans active folders your in or things you open realtime. If you disable these features you should go into Tools/Advanced Settings/Ignore Faulty Conditions and turn off notifications for those.
In Advanced Settings you can setup exceptions as well, AVG is confusing in that area and like you I think they should ask you what you want to do at the time however there are those that prefer the way AVG handles it now, people that don't know better that is.
Yes it is Flash that is crashing FF!
"Well thar's ya problem!". Bloody Flash. Primary reason I'm doing a clean install, just can't seem to fix it. I just can't seem to find any actual helpful info on it either... anywhere! You're the only other person I've found with the problem it seems.
Re AVG: Crikey, it's even listed Drive_Vaccine_PC_Restore_Plus and an Avira installer as suspect/vaulted. DVPC+ was paid for (for a community centre PC setup). I can understand why but isn't that a "I'm not sure so I'll vault/knobble it then". I'd hate to know less (and I don't claim to be an expert) and be wondering why programs I'd paid for are disappearing. What if I'd actually had it installed?
Think I opted out of IPS in the AVG install.
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