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'Anonymous' stops its assault on PSN
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article published on 8 April, 2011
After days of assaulting the PSN (more info here), the hacking group 'Anonymous' has decided to change up its plan of attack, to one that will not affect Sony customers as much.
Says the group:
During the last few days, Anonymous has been targeting Sony for their outrageous treatment of not only PS3 users and jailbreakers, but also of the general public. Their propaganda regarding ... [ read the full article ]
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18. April 2011 @ 11:59 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Oh stop using the argument "if I purchased it, I own it, end of discussions." It's valid 100%! There's nothing wrong with it at all. HOWEVER, time changed! So the rules of the game are changing too.
Remember, we're not far off from the period where we could purchase slaves and we could do whatever we want with them. Does it make sense at the time?
We're still battling on the grounds of pets. We purchase them, so we can do whatever we want with them, including eating them, yes?
We already established grounds on modifying cars/guns even though we purchased them but yet we know the consequences of modifying them. We already accepted the terms with that didn't we?
So, what makes you think digital devices can't be the next thing? Eventually all digital devices will be connected somehow. Modifying the device to perform functionality beyond the intended purpose can be harmful to the general public. You can outcry all you want, but the rules are made by people with money.
We are talking about 'inanimate' objects here. If I bought your old car and decided to modify it (into whatever, the choice is immaterial), your decision making rights over the vehicle are done.
Granted, I can't come to you about the motor or anything else either, but that's the agreement.
Unless I'm reading you wrong, so long as everyone buying consoles that performs these 'tricks' to their machines as well also gets the same ill effects. I.e., no service.
The Bulk of the complaints are the guys that build them don't want to let go. Then there's money to be made, egos to feed, shoes to be pissed on, old fat bastards to write narcissistic blogs, the list goes on.
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18. April 2011 @ 12:37 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Oh stop using the argument "if I purchased it, I own it, end of discussions." It's valid 100%! There's nothing wrong with it at all. HOWEVER, time changed! So the rules of the game are changing too.
Remember, we're not far off from the period where we could purchase slaves and we could do whatever we want with them. Does it make sense at the time?
We're still battling on the grounds of pets. We purchase them, so we can do whatever we want with them, including eating them, yes?
We already established grounds on modifying cars/guns even though we purchased them but yet we know the consequences of modifying them. We already accepted the terms with that didn't we?
So, what makes you think digital devices can't be the next thing? Eventually all digital devices will be connected somehow. Modifying the device to perform functionality beyond the intended purpose can be harmful to the general public. You can outcry all you want, but the rules are made by people with money.
i actually know a family that buys and eat there own sheep,lambs,chickens,cows.its legal.
as for cars the family has a 7yo child that drives around on his familys property in a unroad worthy ford with 15inch rims on the back and 14inch rims on the front.as long as its on private properly its legal.
as for PSN its owned and run by sony so its there choice if they want to ban you.eventually hopefully some group sets up a similar network to psn which doesnt ban people for homebrew/modding.
sony shouldn't able to change anything on the hardware as you own it not them
i hope all digital devices arnt connected.in theory It would be good to be able to connect all your digital devices together in reality it would be terrible if hackers could destroy/manipulate everything in a persons life.
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18. April 2011 @ 12:57 |
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well, the bottom line is, just buy what you like and enjoy it, duh, it's that simple. I don't have problems how the PS3 works, not until the Anonymous's attack that is. I'm enjoying the PS3 and PSN as it is, gaming and media. True, I can choose to modify the PS3 if I wanted to, but I also know that doing so violates the terms in the PSN agreement. So the question for me is, do I want to do that with my console? Is it in my best interest? My answer is no. Is Sony really evil? I'm enjoying my games and they make good games, so what's not to like? How does any of those rebellious talk benefit me as a gamer? I don't get it... If I join the crusade, will I get better gaming experience? Free games for rest of my life? I don't believe in free games or free movies, someone has to make them and no one makes them for free, not in socialist or in capitalist countries.
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18. April 2011 @ 14:30 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
well, the bottom line is, just buy what you like and enjoy it, duh, it's that simple. I don't have problems how the PS3 works, not until the Anonymous's attack that is. I'm enjoying the PS3 and PSN as it is, gaming and media. True, I can choose to modify the PS3 if I wanted to, but I also know that doing so violates the terms in the PSN agreement. So the question for me is, do I want to do that with my console? Is it in my best interest? My answer is no. Is Sony really evil? I'm enjoying my games and they make good games, so what's not to like? How does any of those rebellious talk benefit me as a gamer? I don't get it... If I join the crusade, will I get better gaming experience? Free games for rest of my life? I don't believe in free games or free movies, someone has to make them and no one makes them for free, not in socialist or in capitalist countries.
Well, some guys do make small games for the bragging rights. Otherwise, newest fringe, top shelf games are always going to cost money. And despite what some people may imply, the purist of socialist countries are probably on the way out (yes, their still there) and technology is helping to make it that way. What "I" was trying to imply was that GREED is the driving force of a lot of folks hardships here. That debate could go onto another topic forum...
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19. April 2011 @ 02:38 |
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Did I not say that Sony own PSN?
Did I not say that if a contract or agreement, tacit or otherwise, contravenes the given laws of a country it is not worth the paper it is written on?
Did I not say that as possession gives you the right to do whatever with what you own? Again, it is your right and exceptions are what have to be enshrined in law, not the other way around.
And to make a comparison between human beings and a material object is plain ridiculous.
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19. April 2011 @ 10:14 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
And to make a comparison between human beings and a material object is plain ridiculous.
How's that ridiculous? Tell that to the people two hundred years ago. What's ridiculous is that at least with Sony's crap no one died. American civil war? Do you have any idea how many people died just to get rid of slavery? I find it ridiculous that people talked about greed and righteousness when they can't distinguish "material objects" and "human beings."
We came to the conclusion that human beings are not material objects because we have been there, we learned through mistakes.
In this case, it's about material objects doing harm to human beings. There's only so much you can do to things you own, at one point or other, some people with bad intention will use those ideas to cause general harms to society as a whole.
There's always two sides to everything. With knowledge/power comes responsibility, like driving a car, do we tolerate drinking and driving the same as 50 years ago?
Hacking the PS3 is great and all, but does it pose a risk to fair online gaming and achievements? If you take away the integrity in a community, what do you get? That's right, bunch of immature kids running around do whatever they please and at the end of the day, they wished someone tuck them to bed.
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19. April 2011 @ 15:36 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
Did I not say that Sony own PSN?
Did I not say that if a contract or agreement, tacit or otherwise, contravenes the given laws of a country it is not worth the paper it is written on?
Did I not say that as possession gives you the right to do whatever with what you own? Again, it is your right and exceptions are what have to be enshrined in law, not the other way around.
And to make a comparison between human beings and a material object is plain ridiculous.
How's that ridiculous? Tell that to the people two hundred years ago. What's ridiculous is that at least with Sony's crap no one died. American civil war? Do you have any idea how many people died just to get rid of slavery? I find it ridiculous that people talked about greed and righteousness when they can't distinguish "material objects" and "human beings."
We came to the conclusion that human beings are not material objects because we have been there, we learned through mistakes.
In this case, it's about material objects doing harm to human beings. There's only so much you can do to things you own, at one point or other, some people with bad intention will use those ideas to cause general harms to society as a whole.
There's always two sides to everything. With knowledge/power comes responsibility, like driving a car, do we tolerate drinking and driving the same as 50 years ago?
Hacking the PS3 is great and all, but does it pose a risk to fair online gaming and achievements? If you take away the integrity in a community, what do you get? That's right, bunch of immature kids running around do whatever they please and at the end of the day, they wished someone tuck them to bed.
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I stand corrected... a PlayStation3 IS human after all.
I'm just floored by your rapier insight. How could I be so blind to the obvious?
I see that completely discounts what I wrote before (especially the third sentence) and the laws of my country have to be overhauled in the light of that brilliance.
Question, what makes six times as much as the movie industry?
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Originally posted by LordRuss:
There is a fine line between greed and bussiness.
True, but in the last 20 years it is my opinion that greed has been that greed has been running the business.
there is also a differnece between company's who misuse thier authority concerning products.
No complaint there...
Not all Corporations are "evil" to make that assumptions is lacking forsight and understanding of the corporate system.
I'm not sure 'who's foresight you're in regards to, so I'll assume mine. That being the case, in my blogasphere (which this isn't the forum) I'm attacking only the 'evils' so 'lumping all of them' is a bit pre-disposed on your behalf. Be kind, don't assume. My assumption was on my person, not you.
The folks at Apple welcome different ideas, they want the customers to improve thier products.
Yup, so long as those different ideas are for Apple's products strictest guidelines only and profits are an 80% margin to Apple.
Sony doesnt get that, and never will.
So you see not all Corporations are evil, what you talk of is nothing more than class warefare which is a tool of the Socalist.
Designed to cripple Capitalism.
Um, you lost me there. I speak on a class 'warfare' because that is where it is going to end up. That I am promoting a Socialist agenda is a juvenile conclusion. Corporations (the 'evil' ones) have indeed crippled the very idea/integrity of what capitalism was supposed to be. To go into further explanation of these truths & solutions would take a doctoral dissertation. Something simply not readable in a forum of blog.
Only a fool would encourage Socialism, asking the Gov for permission to live thier lives.
Yet, you make this comment and think that corporations aren't making you do just exactly that?
um the fact that you call yourself ahem "Lord" says it all.
and you obviously take things too personally also tells me you look for anyone who will give you a fight, pass.
I have better use of my time then fighting with a wannabe collegiate twit.
Lets just say you won the argument and I am in awe of you "Lord".
(You didn't)
But your fighting the wrong person(s).
lol "Lord", someone has a high opinion of themselves huh? (:>)
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20. April 2011 @ 10:31 |
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Originally posted by hk2:
Originally posted by LordRuss:
There is a fine line between greed and bussiness.
True, but in the last 20 years it is my opinion that greed has been that greed has been running the business.
there is also a differnece between company's who misuse thier authority concerning products.
No complaint there...
Not all Corporations are "evil" to make that assumptions is lacking forsight and understanding of the corporate system.
I'm not sure 'who's foresight you're in regards to, so I'll assume mine. That being the case, in my blogasphere (which this isn't the forum) I'm attacking only the 'evils' so 'lumping all of them' is a bit pre-disposed on your behalf. Be kind, don't assume. My assumption was on my person, not you.
The folks at Apple welcome different ideas, they want the customers to improve thier products.
Yup, so long as those different ideas are for Apple's products strictest guidelines only and profits are an 80% margin to Apple.
Sony doesnt get that, and never will.
So you see not all Corporations are evil, what you talk of is nothing more than class warefare which is a tool of the Socalist.
Designed to cripple Capitalism.
Um, you lost me there. I speak on a class 'warfare' because that is where it is going to end up. That I am promoting a Socialist agenda is a juvenile conclusion. Corporations (the 'evil' ones) have indeed crippled the very idea/integrity of what capitalism was supposed to be. To go into further explanation of these truths & solutions would take a doctoral dissertation. Something simply not readable in a forum of blog.
Only a fool would encourage Socialism, asking the Gov for permission to live thier lives.
Yet, you make this comment and think that corporations aren't making you do just exactly that?
um the fact that you call yourself ahem "Lord" says it all.
and you obviously take things too personally also tells me you look for anyone who will give you a fight, pass.
I have better use of my time then fighting with a wannabe collegiate twit.
Lets just say you won the argument and I am in awe of you "Lord".
(You didn't)
But your fighting the wrong person(s).
lol "Lord", someone has a high opinion of themselves huh? (:>)
Man, going for a purely ad hominem attack to score points... well done! :/
Truly pathetic. You have no justification to sink that low no matter how much you disagreed with the guy. He never got personal.
Your just another crazy ideologue as far as I'm concerned, with their head up their backside... here's something else to stick up there with it, something about your favourite corporation:
http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/stories/beastfile-apple
Sorry if you don't get to see the video, it will be available on YouTube soon I expect.
And before you accuse me of being a Communist, I'm not. But I certainly don't expect a reach-around either.
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20. April 2011 @ 13:11 |
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um the fact that you call yourself ahem "Lord" says it all.
and you obviously take things too personally also tells me you look for anyone who will give you a fight, pass.
I have better use of my time then fighting with a wannabe collegiate twit.
Lets just say you won the argument and I am in awe of you "Lord".
(You didn't)
But your fighting the wrong person(s).
lol "Lord", someone has a high opinion of themselves huh? (:>)
Man, going for a purely ad hominem attack to score points... well done! :/
Truly pathetic. You have no justification to sink that low no matter how much you disagreed with the guy. He never got personal.
Your just another crazy ideologue as far as I'm concerned, with their head up their backside... here's something else to stick up there with it, something about your favourite corporation:
http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/stories/beastfile-apple
Sorry if you don't get to see the video, it will be available on YouTube soon I expect.
And before you accuse me of being a Communist, I'm not. But I certainly don't expect a reach-around either.
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I'm not sure who's defending who here? Jemborb certainly isn't a Communist, nor at any time did "I" ever imply to anyone's patriotism. It is for that reason that I felt a line item justification was needed with hk2. Granted, he didn't know of my military past, but if you write as a supposed scholar, then behave as one (actions I was scolded on). However, gentlemen, "fool", "pathetic", who's doing the name calling here?
You want to write & 'act' like gentlemen and speak of hurt feelings then jump on a bandwagon and 'gang up'. It may say 'newbie' on my name header guys, but I am far from it in the 'game of life'. So let's not play 'pissing on the shoes' please?
As for my 'Lord-ship'.. it started out as a cross between both conceit & pride in my Scottish heritage; now I use it as a metaphor for bowing to no one.
I didn't come to the forum to 'fight' with anyone. Whining in a crowd of the appeased does nothing. Like Anonymous, they're hitting the wrong nail. Unless you hit Greed itself you do little or no good at all. My supposition was that my rantings would reverberate through your forum and possibly make a difference instead of the typical banter that always dilutes into nothing. I want to make folks think deeper than just the face value of the situation at hand.
Once again, it appears to be wishful thinking from an old man.
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20. April 2011 @ 13:58 |
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Okay LordRuss back to your question:
Question, what makes six times as much as the movie industry?
Video game industry? Music?
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20. April 2011 @ 16:03 |
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Being old and obstinate as I am, I would have said any organized taxing governing body, but current trends say the video gaming industry has taken over as entertainment's mogul.
Like everything else in entertainment though, I refuse to believe that the folks that put all the blood, sweat and tears into the product we enjoy actually reap the most (and proper) benefits. The reason I know this is from having worked in both the movie and music industries (lower ends mind you) about 15 years ago. Being the total whore I am, I would still jump back into back into the fray.
Long live the independent artist... which is another Pandora's box...
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20. April 2011 @ 17:56 |
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Wish I could help. Sony needs to learn to mind their own business and leave peoples business and rights alone.
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sony shouldn't able to change anything on the hardware as you own it not them
As far as I know Sony can't change anything on the hardware you own. I thought changes were made when you agree to them like a firmware update.
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Originally posted by Smacks:
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sony shouldn't able to change anything on the hardware as you own it not them
As far as I know Sony can't change anything on the hardware you own. I thought changes were made when you agree to them like a firmware update.
That's correct and I think a lot of people just unhappy with the fact that they need to accept the terms to continue to use PSN. See, that's something I don't get. You know you can't continue to use PSN w/o accepting the terms, so why mad at something you don't own? I know some people have legitimate reasons like don't want to upgrade the new update because it detects a copy righted watermark on AVI/DIVX files. Without upgrading the firmware, people can still watch the copy righted movie files, but the thing is they can't get the Netflix app to work w/o the update. So yeah, at the end, it's Sony's fault, lol.
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Originally posted by LordRuss:
I'm not sure who's defending who here?
I was defending you Russ. rofl. Whether you needed it or not. An uncalled for ad hominem attack riles me. Your opinion is as welcome as anyone else's here mate. In fact, it's probably a good place for it.
Likewise, I have no problem with your moniker. You may even be a "Laird" for real. It seems pretty popular to call oneself LordSomethingorother on the net anyway so I personally did not bat an eyelid. But it was just a cheap shot on his part anyway.
Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Okay LordRuss back to your question:
Question, what makes six times as much as the movie industry?
Video game industry? Music?
Actually, I asked the question mate... of you, but I should not be surprised as you seem to fail to pay attention to what is actually written in posts. You failed to note it was essentially rhetorical as well... duh.
You obstinately equate the PS3 with the PSN (as well as a human being, heh). Most of the people who want to mod THEIR consoles don't give a toss about PSN. Anonymous' issue is about $ony interfering in peoples' personal property rights.
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by LordRuss:
I'm not sure who's defending who here?
I was defending you Russ. rofl. Whether you needed it or not. An uncalled for ad hominem attack riles me. Your opinion is as welcome as anyone else's here mate. In fact, it's probably a good place for it.
Likewise, I have no problem with your moniker. You may even be a "Laird" for real. It seems pretty popular to call oneself LordSomethingorother on the net anyway so I personally did not bat an eyelid. But it was just a cheap shot on his part anyway.
Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Okay LordRuss back to your question:
Question, what makes six times as much as the movie industry?
Video game industry? Music?
Actually, I asked the question mate... of you, but I should not be surprised as you seem to fail to pay attention to what is actually written in posts. You failed to note it was essentially rhetorical as well... duh.
You obstinately equate the PS3 with the PSN (as well as a human being, heh). Most of the people who want to mod THEIR consoles don't give a toss about PSN. Anonymous' issue is about $ony interfering in peoples' personal property rights.
Here we go again... Battle station!
So what now? One cannot answer rhetorical questions now? FYI, rhetorical questions and sarcasms play both ways. Just because you think your lordship is above everyone else it doesn't mean crap. All I see is the hole full of crap :D
Most people mod their PS3 don't give a crap about PSN, AGREE. So why are the rest of PSN users have to suffer the casualty? In a war or uprising, you don't make your point spraying the blood of innocents. I don't care how noble the clause Anonymous is trying to convince the world, it's a cowardly act for those of us don't mod the PS3 for enjoyment. Spin it all you want, I just don't like their tactic. Just because they don't like something, it doesn't mean they have to throw tantrums. Yes, they agreed to stop the attack because they realized they're hurting the customers, not the evil doer, Sony. However, who the hell knows? After they pull a stun like this, do you honestly think that's the whole story? Oh right, Anonymous is preparing phase two assault.
As for your comment PSN = Human Being, your words, not mines. Your lordship think of yourself too high, get your butt down and find me evidence that I came up with that statement. My comments may have made you came to that implication, but who's fault is that?
Also, if an user ID is so trivial, an object not be concerned (definitely not human), why you're so defensive of LordRuss id? Who gives a rat butt about your heritage explanation? You defended your id because it linked to you, duh.
PSN is linked to gamers like me. I have friends on PSN, I'm part of a small community bounded by honor and integrity. My trophies are my war stories. My PSN name is something I would like to protect and if Sony is doing it on my behalf then that's all I need to hear.
I don't give a damn about modding PS3, just don't tarnish the online community like it's nothing. Think of war stories for this analogy. We are not killing villagers here, but the casualty is real. If a small PSN gaming community can't function due to attacks, values are lost. Not tragic as lost lives, but whole essence of online integrity is lost.
PS3 is not human I grant you that, but that's not the point. The point being, it's the passion human beings transfer to that defines what's to be treasured or loved. This has been in all of us since the beginning of time, animate or inanimate, it doesn't matter.
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Also, if an user ID is so trivial, an object not be concerned (definitely not human), why you're so defensive of LordRuss id? Who gives a rat butt about your heritage explanation? You defended your id because it linked to you, duh.
PSN is linked to gamers like me. I have friends on PSN, I'm part of a small community bounded by honor and integrity. My trophies are my war stories. My PSN name is something I would like to protect and if Sony is doing it on my behalf then that's all I need to hear.
I don't give a damn about modding PS3, just don't tarnish the online community like it's nothing. Think of war stories for this analogy. We are not killing villagers here, but the casualty is real. If a small PSN gaming community can't function due to attacks, values are lost. Not tragic as lost lives, but whole essence of online integrity is lost.
PS3 is not human I grant you that, but that's not the point. The point being, it's the passion human beings transfer to that defines what's to be treasured or loved. This has been in all of us since the beginning of time, animate or inanimate, it doesn't matter.
Uuuh... did we not get the memo on the capitalization etiquette? I gave an id explanation because 'you' brought it up, not me (sorry Jemborg, here I go again...), My ID is my ID, I didn't bring that up at all, so that's just petty. I gave more insight of my monicker because deduction (which you don't have, but hinted at having a hobby for)said your reasoning alluded to my having a "high opinion of myself"... I'm just filling in the blanks dear boy.
Then my ranting about greed and its abomination on capitalism elicited your anecdotal history lesson & inferences of socialism.
I line item veto-ed your objections which Jemborg found to be a social faux paux (I might debate, but not here).
Yet, you defend your ID with such id & on the Sony PSN on your PS3 with such fervor, but belittle my label & character. Quite contradictory behavior.
Although your appellation bears no characteristics to your persona whatsoever, your typing skills & tone are a smorgasbord for thought. Let's just say I take it your an extremely hard-core left wing conservative, yes? This is not a bad thing... it'll just clear up several misconceptions.
And although you have asked no questions here, don't take the piss when you get answers that you need as apposed to the answers that you want. I've had a lifetime full of them and they don't get any easier.
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I'm sorry man, LordRuss just struck me as a snobby, think highly of himself/herself sort of person, without going any further... And now your ramblings confirmed so, this comes from a person without deductions too :P
Dude, you do think highly of yourself, stop denying that.
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You call a baffing rambling rant "Battle stations" roflmao... I'm sure it made sense to you though. :D
Are you confusing me with LordRuss or something? The first half of post #66 was directed to him concerning his confusion (post #60) over post #59 which was written in response to hk2's post #58.
The hyperbole about the PSN (yet again *yawn*) is rendered mute as they obviously seem to agree with you on some level. See the main article. Did they bugger up your user ID?
Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
As for your comment PSN = Human Being, your words, not mines. Your lordship think of yourself too high, get your butt down and find me evidence that I came up with that statement. My comments may have made you came to that implication, but who's fault is that?
I'm afraid it's yours...
Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
And to make a comparison between human beings and a material object is plain ridiculous.
How's that ridiculous?... blah blah...American civil war... blah blah...slavery...blah blah... I find it ridiculous that people talked about greed and righteousness when they can't distinguish "material objects" and "human beings."
...and judging from the rest of your last tirade it's pretty plain you can't make that distinction either...
Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
The point being, it's the passion human beings transfer to that defines what's to be treasured or loved. This has been in all of us since the beginning of time, animate or inanimate, it doesn't matter.
You're not one of those dudes that do it with furniture are you?
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/10/i-had-sex-with-furniture-the-nsfw-fleshlight-motion-review/
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EDIT:Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Dude, you do think highly of yourself, stop denying that.
Now you're just being a hypocrite.
@ LordRuss Not sure what faux pas you're referring to. Just to be certain, let me make this clear.. I have no issue with you.
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
I'm sorry man, LordRuss just struck me as a snobby, think highly of himself/herself sort of person, without going any further... And now your ramblings confirmed so, this comes from a person without deductions too :P
Dude, you do think highly of yourself, stop denying that.
For the love of whatever deity you profess... Your eye for the obvious has been duly noted and recorded for historians and children to chant thru the ages.
What is this, four, five times now? Russ is masculine, unless you want to start another childish brouhaha there...
My ego and it's legendary ends (or lack there of) has not been established (tee-hee, f-ing giggle)
Make your statement clean... stop while you're ahead. I have already claimed whatever egocentricity I need & no longer need to serve as your #$*&% home entertainment center.
It's obvious you're still an adolescent if you can't simple make a statement and then break free. You still have to make a comment demanding a follow up retort. It's just like my kids... A perpetual, incessant "need" to be right.
Wasn't this a forum about a bunch of guys screwing consumers wrongly instead of targeting Sony?
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No, I don't need to be right, I need to unsubscribe :) No new info I can learn here and LordRuss, stop throwing "intellectual" words like running water.
Oh Jemborg, good day to you too (coming from a hypocrite without deduction)
Peace!
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No, I don't need to be right, I need to unsubscribe :) No new info I can learn here and LordRuss, stop throwing "intellectual" words like running water.
Oh Jemborg, good day to you too (coming from a hypocrite without deduction)
Peace!
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Originally posted by LordRuss:
My ego and it's legendary ends (or lack there of) has not been established (tee-hee, f-ing giggle)
That's right!
Besides, a healthy ego never hurt anyone's success... on the contrary.
Laughable that that lame insult should come from someone with the attention span of a goldfish.
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
No, I don't need to be right, I need to unsubscribe :) No new info I can learn here and LordRuss, stop throwing "intellectual" words like running water.
Oh Jemborg, good day to you too (coming from a hypocrite without deduction)
OK, so we'll all just throw out random made-up facts and conjuncture (oh sorry, too many syllables?), place false blame and jail innocents. I'll just go ahead & dumb down my forum scripts just for 'you' cause 'you' said so...
and still the school yard jibes... please, go to the pub and open a good debate. It's healthy. Anonymous will be back in the news next week I'm sure...
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