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Hackers have taken all your info from PSN
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article published on 26 April, 2011
Following 5 days of downtime, Sony has finally confirmed the reason behind the PSN outage, sparking outrage from concerned gamers.
Sony says hackers have stolen PSN account info, forcing the company to shut down PSN and Qriocity as it rebuilds its services.
In an announcement, Sony says the attack took place between April 17th and 19th.
The company notes that your "Name, address ... [ read the full article ]
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27. April 2011 @ 01:22 |
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Does it really come as a surprise that a company whose idea of a random number is a static constant is lacking in security features on other areas as well...
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27. April 2011 @ 04:46 |
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It is becoming hard to stay on the PS3 boat with this. I'm surprised that people actually went out and bought an xbox just to play black ops online. Good thing I switched to prepaid cards though.
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27. April 2011 @ 05:35 |
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I had to cancel my card. None the less, I am happy to see this. That might sound vengeful, but Sony never learns anything when they only loose a few million dollars...they need to get hit HARD; and they have been. Will it teach them a lesson? Maybe not...but at least there is a chance.
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27. April 2011 @ 05:36 |
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To be honest im starting to feel a little (note i said a little and i mean a very little) sorry for s0ny, however i think although this was not directly their doing its is pretty clear its been their actions that the wheels in motion so to speak... its going to be interesting, they have a choice now to do something fantastic to recapture customers support and confidence again... for many people its probably to late to say sorry, but that should mean they should alienate all customers or no try to strive to pull new customers... lets see you do something fantastic, because if you dont this is really going to hurt you so much more in the long term.........
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27. April 2011 @ 07:07 |
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The Australian Federal Police have come out and told everybody it's relevant to to cancel and get a re-issue of their CC & DC accounts... no ifs and or buts.
Too late for your personal info. You PSN users should be looking over your shoulder for many many years to come unfortunately.
Why does anybody think this is anything but simple cybertheft? There are no high and mighty ideals at stake here. Give up any notions that Sony will return OtherOS or backwards compatibility.
It's on a scale unlike anything that's happened to XBL (or Wii, or whomever), stop pretending it's at all comparable, it smacks of desperation. It may indeed still happen but let's hope that the relatively minor incidents that have occurred to them, e.g. Major Nelson's account being hacked, had alerted M$ et al to the dangers.
It's utterly reprehensible that Sony did not inform the public of the theft sooner. There is no excuse for it... they knew from early on and were playing damage control with peoples' info.
I feel sorry for the Sony employees and the people of Japan too. After everything that has happened now this debacle. The banks who have to wear any CC fraud arising from this may come after Sony... tsk.
This won't be the end of it. To be anything but furious with $ony, or to make excuses for them, is frankly idiotic.
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27. April 2011 @ 07:27 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
This won't be the end of it. To be anything but furious with $ony, or to make excuses for them, is frankly idiotic.
Head on over the the playstation.com forums if you want a laugh...it amazes me...I honestly don't know how these people got old enough to type without proving Darwin correct.
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27. April 2011 @ 08:45 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
This won't be the end of it. To be anything but furious with $ony, or to make excuses for them, is frankly idiotic.
Head on over the the playstation.com forums if you want a laugh...it amazes me...I honestly don't know how these people got old enough to type without proving Darwin correct.
Crikey you're right... ahahahaha.
The limited commentary that seems to have been allowed demonstrates many them are living in la-la land.
A lot seem to think because the PSN is free somehow it's ok... some even seem to be using this to have a go at XBL. RoFL.
This guy was the most sensible but seemed to be quite lonesome:
"I don't really see why so many people are saying it was inevitable that their personal information was stolen from a respected company's online database. The ONLY reason it was stolen was due to Sony's negligent failure to take proper measures to protect that data. While I'm still a Sony fan and will still use the PS3 as my primary gaming console this has certainly shaken my faith in the company."
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27. April 2011 @ 12:02 |
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Originally posted by POGK:
Companies that lose information such as this should be held accountable for the loss, whether anything becomes of it or not. Its BS that they require all this information for the service but, when they "lose" it, they just say "check yer shite". The same thing should go for banks, insurance companies, medical services, etc.
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27. April 2011 @ 12:07 |
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I agree 100% ! Sony has to do more than say check your credit report ! Anybody who uses their PSN has entrusted them to protect their personal and private information and they couldn't do that and now they want PSN users to somehow feel as if they are at fault for what clearly is a PR blunder by Sony !
Thanks Sony and just in case you're wondering, I've decided to sell my PS3 and go with another gaming machine from a company that at least takes all precautions to protect their users and subscribers !
The worst of this outside of the obvious breach of privacy is the fact that so many PS3 games are rendered useless because they require connecting to the PSN to play so no offline play for a myriad of PS3 games and that well just sucks !
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27. April 2011 @ 12:41 |
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Saw Lateline (ABC TV Oz) report... some guy in Adelaide has had $2000+ stolen from CC, it's considered to be related to the PSN infiltration. Thought to be originating from the States. The Privacy Commissioner has begun an investigation into Sony. Cyber security experts are calling for legislation to force companies to inform clients in one or two days of any breach.
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2011/s3201906.htm
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27. April 2011 @ 13:03 |
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Originally posted by phade3:
I agree 100% ! Sony has to do more than say check your credit report ! Anybody who uses their PSN has entrusted them to protect their personal and private information and they couldn't do that and now they want PSN users to somehow feel as if they are at fault for what clearly is a PR blunder by Sony !
Thanks Sony and just in case you're wondering, I've decided to sell my PS3 and go with another gaming machine from a company that at least takes all precautions to protect their users and subscribers !
The worst of this outside of the obvious breach of privacy is the fact that so many PS3 games are rendered useless because they require connecting to the PSN to play so no offline play for a myriad of PS3 games and that well just sucks !
Just get games for PC, then.
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27. April 2011 @ 13:14 |
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Originally posted by phade3:
I agree 100% ! Sony has to do more than say check your credit report ! Anybody who uses their PSN has entrusted them to protect their personal and private information and they couldn't do that and now they want PSN users to somehow feel as if they are at fault for what clearly is a PR blunder by Sony !
Thanks Sony and just in case you're wondering, I've decided to sell my PS3 and go with another gaming machine from a company that at least takes all precautions to protect their users and subscribers !
The worst of this outside of the obvious breach of privacy is the fact that so many PS3 games are rendered useless because they require connecting to the PSN to play so no offline play for a myriad of PS3 games and that well just sucks !
The Wiggle-woggle said,
When I'm standing on my head,
I can see the coast of China,
And it's very very red.
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27. April 2011 @ 13:33 |
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Well, I remove billing info from my PSN account after every purchase. Will the hackers still be able to get my info?
Kinda sucks that my password has been taken though :/
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27. April 2011 @ 13:51 |
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Originally posted by kikzm33z:
Well, I remove billing info from my PSN account after every purchase. Will the hackers still be able to get my info?
Kinda sucks that my password has been taken though :/
Maybe.
Anybody who doesn't keep a weather eye on their CC account is a knucklehead anyway... regardless of Sony's incompetence.
Change your password. Mind your emails.
S'why I always do ALL my financial transactions using Puppy. Which coincidently is the same advice of the N.S.W Poo-lice:
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/157767,nsw-police-dont-use-windows-for-internet-banking.aspx
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27. April 2011 @ 15:23 |
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Sony is at fault here. I like how after the fact they check there security they should have done this years ago not after the fact. This is going to hurt them more then they know, I know after this I will be cancelling my Sony plus and removing all credit card info. I prefer the Xbox 360 anyway.
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27. April 2011 @ 18:02 |
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Do I smell a class action lawsuit building? With 70+ million complainants, this could ruin Sony.
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28. April 2011 @ 01:00 |
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i love how some people blame the victims and not the criminal. why is it sonys fault that a crime was committed against them and their customers? heres one i blame Al Gore for the internet and the cybercriminals that came with it.
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28. April 2011 @ 01:41 |
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Originally posted by cazer:
i love how some people blame the victims and not the criminal. why is it sonys fault that a crime was committed against them and their customers? heres one i blame Al Gore for the internet and the cybercriminals that came with it.
sony is in charge of security on the psn network thats why they are getting blamed.
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28. April 2011 @ 04:06 |
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28. April 2011 @ 08:53 |
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Originally posted by cazer:
i love how some people blame the victims and not the criminal. why is it sonys fault that a crime was committed against them and their customers? heres one i blame Al Gore for the internet and the cybercriminals that came with it.
I love the way some people will go on making excuses for Sony when they know they were responsible for safeguarding their customers' personal details.
Even... The (Australian) Privacy Commissioner has begun an investigation to make sure Sony did everything it could to keep its customers safe.
From: http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2011/s3201906.htm
Do you honestly think that's illogical and unfair? I can't believe you're that naive.
Yes it's wrong what those cybercrimms did... obviously it's a given... but by your reasoning it's ok for a bank to abandon using armoured vehicles to transport cash because, hey, they're not responsible if anything gets stolen.
And how the hell do you justify Sony failing to alert their customers to the danger for so long?
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28. April 2011 @ 13:28 |
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Meh and who actually believes Al Snore had anything to do with creating the internet? I hope you were joking cazer! ROFL otherwise...
Just my $0.02,
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28. April 2011 @ 14:04 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
Yes it's wrong what those cybercrimms did... obviously it's a given... but by your reasoning it's ok for a bank to abandon using armoured vehicles to transport cash because, hey, they're not responsible if anything gets stolen.
And how the hell do you justify Sony failing to alert their customers to the danger for so long?
Banks are crooks anyway with or without armored trucks :) Of course banks get blamed for lost/stolen cash. The point here, the banks are not in the spot light, the criminals are. Sony is responsible for the security of PSN no matter how they spin it. If Sony had released the news one or two days after PSN was taken down, they may save some face, but ultimately they still need to address PSN's security issue. Perhaps Sony delayed the response to buy more time? Perhaps Sony trying to appear "tough?" Perhaps Sony don't want to cause massive panic to the PSN users? Perhaps Sony don't want to upset the investors? Whatever the reason is, as a PSN user, I only care about when will the issue be resolved and how do I know my info is safe with them?
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28. April 2011 @ 14:54 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
If Sony had released the news one or two days after PSN was taken down, they may save some face, but ultimately they still need to address PSN's security issue. Perhaps Sony delayed the response to buy more time? Perhaps Sony trying to appear "tough?" Perhaps Sony don't want to cause massive panic to the PSN users? Perhaps Sony don't want to upset the investors? Whatever the reason is, as a PSN user, I only care about when will the issue be resolved and how do I know my info is safe with them?
This was released later the same day Sony posted the warnings about the breach ~
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"I wanted to take this opportunity to clarify a point and answer one of the most frequently asked questions today.
There?s a difference in timing between when we identified there was an intrusion and when we learned of consumers? data being compromised. We learned there was an intrusion April 19th and subsequently shut the services down. We then brought in outside experts to help us learn how the intrusion occurred and to conduct an investigation to determine the nature and scope of the incident. It was necessary to conduct several days of forensic analysis, and it took our experts until yesterday to understand the scope of the breach. We then shared that information with our consumers and announced it publicly this afternoon."
And there has been info stating the data was/is encrypted and that it is still not entirely confirmed anything got out. This is however still to be taken as rumor. So as a precaution be diligent in protecting yourself as best as possible under the circumstances.
The fact remains if any information is used illegally that just proves whoever did this was/is out for themselves and didn't do this for "consumer rights" as some people would have others believe.
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28. April 2011 @ 17:10 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
The point here, the banks are not in the spot light, the criminals are.
Is there something about the concept of analogy you don't understand?
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