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Hackers have taken all your info from PSN

article published on 26 April, 2011

Following 5 days of downtime, Sony has finally confirmed the reason behind the PSN outage, sparking outrage from concerned gamers. Sony says hackers have stolen PSN account info, forcing the company to shut down PSN and Qriocity as it rebuilds its services. In an announcement, Sony says the attack took place between April 17th and 19th. The company notes that your "Name, address ... [ read the full article ]

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28. April 2011 @ 17:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Oner:
The fact remains if any information is used illegally that just proves whoever did this was/is out for themselves and didn't do this for "consumer rights" as some people would have others believe.
I totally agree.

However, as to the delay... you may but I don't believe Sony. US politicians are up in arms about it. Cyber Security experts in Oz are calling for legislation (as I wrote above, post #36)...



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28. April 2011 @ 19:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by cazer:
i love how some people blame the victims and not the criminal. why is it sonys fault that a crime was committed against them and their customers? heres one i blame Al Gore for the internet and the cybercriminals that came with it.
I love the way some people will go on making excuses for Sony when they know they were responsible for safeguarding their customers' personal details.

Even... The (Australian) Privacy Commissioner has begun an investigation to make sure Sony did everything it could to keep its customers safe.

From: http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2011/s3201906.htm

Do you honestly think that's illogical and unfair? I can't believe you're that naive.

Yes it's wrong what those cybercrimms did... obviously it's a given... but by your reasoning it's ok for a bank to abandon using armoured vehicles to transport cash because, hey, they're not responsible if anything gets stolen.

And how the hell do you justify Sony failing to alert their customers to the danger for so long?


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your comment really has nothing to do with mine. how do you know what sony did or didnt do to protect this data? an investigation does not mean they did anything wrong. all it means is they are looking to see if they did anything wrong. they don't know and neither do you. do you not think that armored vehicles have not been robbed? a lock of any type only keeps a honest person honest. anything can be hacked you need to start living in the real world! i guess you would blame the rape victim. i never tried to justify Sony failing to alert their customers. maybe they did not know what got out. maybe they did. i dont know. if sony did something wrong then yes they should pay for it. if they didnt then they shouldnt pay. this stuff happens all the time around the world but you dont see people bitching about it here. this only made news here because its sony and gaming and most here are sony haters.

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28. April 2011 @ 20:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cazer:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by cazer:
i love how some people blame the victims and not the criminal. why is it sonys fault that a crime was committed against them and their customers? heres one i blame Al Gore for the internet and the cybercriminals that came with it.
I love the way some people will go on making excuses for Sony when they know they were responsible for safeguarding their customers' personal details.

Even... The (Australian) Privacy Commissioner has begun an investigation to make sure Sony did everything it could to keep its customers safe.

From: http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2011/s3201906.htm

Do you honestly think that's illogical and unfair? I can't believe you're that naive.

Yes it's wrong what those cybercrimms did... obviously it's a given... but by your reasoning it's ok for a bank to abandon using armoured vehicles to transport cash because, hey, they're not responsible if anything gets stolen.

And how the hell do you justify Sony failing to alert their customers to the danger for so long?


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your comment really has nothing to do with mine. how do you know what sony did or didnt do to protect this data? an investigation does not mean they did anything wrong. all it means is they are looking to see if they did anything wrong. they don't know and neither do you. do you not think that armored vehicles have not been robbed? a lock of any type only keeps a honest person honest. anything can be hacked you need to start living in the real world! i guess you would blame the rape victim. i never tried to justify Sony failing to alert their customers. maybe they did not know what got out. maybe they did. i dont know. if sony did something wrong then yes they should pay for it. if they didnt then they shouldnt pay. this stuff happens all the time around the world but you dont see people bitching about it here. this only made news here because its sony and gaming and most here are sony haters.


Actually, there are 77 million reasons why you are minimising this incident. Implying I'm just a Sony hater is really f***ing immature.

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28. April 2011 @ 22:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Gamespot also reported that a few financial companies such as ~
Source Gamespot
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"MasterCard, WellsFargo and American Express, have witnessed "no unauthorized activity relating to Sony."
Sony's Patrick Seybold also had this to say ~

Source Arstechnica
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"The entire credit card table was encrypted and we have no evidence that credit card data was taken."

Edit 1:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by Oner:
The fact remains if any information is used illegally that just proves whoever did this was/is out for themselves and didn't do this for "consumer rights" as some people would have others believe.
I totally agree.
Holy Crap! Did I just see that you actually agreed with something I said!?!? ;P


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Originally posted by cazer:
...this only made news here because its sony and gaming and most here are sony haters.
This is absolutely untrue. This is world wide gaming IMPORTANT news/information and aD is doing this just for that. To inform our members and people who visit us for their tech fix. Nothing else. Hell if aD was about that, then most of the "Sony haters" would probably say or be wondering why would "Oner" allow this since I have been pegged a "Sony Employee/Insider/Whatever" numerous times. So please refrain from making unsupported/inaccurate statements like that about us. TY

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28. April 2011 @ 22:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Oner:
Gamespot also reported that a few financial companies such as ~
Source Gamestop
Quote:
"MasterCard, WellsFargo and American Express, have witnessed "no unauthorized activity relating to Sony."

Sony's Patrick Seybold also had this to say ~
Source Arstechnica
Quote:
"The entire credit card table was encrypted and we have no evidence that credit card data was taken."

Well, that genuinely is a relief. I must say. I want to be more positive Oner but it's still early days.

Identity theft is still a concern.

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

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28. April 2011 @ 22:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@jemborg
show me were i said "you were a sony hater".i said most here i never pointed you out directly. i also love how you love to name call like i child. and no i did not call you a child i said you act like one

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28. April 2011 @ 22:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Jemborg:
I want to be more positive Oner but it's still early days.
Well that's good to hear.


Originally posted by Jemborg:
Identity theft is still a concern.
And I too 100% agree, as it is still just too early to be that naive & ignorant.

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28. April 2011 @ 23:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@cazer

What-ever loser.

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@Oner

Only when you're being reasonable. :P

Actually, I've agreed with you a number of times recently. You just need to get out your magnifying glass. ;)

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29. April 2011 @ 01:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Jemborg:
@cazer

What-ever loser.

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@Oner

Only when you're being reasonable. :P

Actually, I've agreed with you a number of times recently. You just need to get out your magnifying glass. ;)
Yeah, that's what I thought!
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29. April 2011 @ 03:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh the flames.... down tiger.. !!
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29. April 2011 @ 05:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
4-29-11
Hackers claim to have stolen PSN credit card info...
Sony was supposedly offered a chance to buy the DB [database] back but didn'.....
http://cnet.co/ioz5b6

4-30-11
PSN Database Containing 2.2 Million Credit Cards , Now For Sale,
include the CCV security code that until now was believed to be safe.....

http://bit.ly/lj7CyA

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29. April 2011 @ 09:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mrguss:
4-29-11
Hackers claim to have stolen PSN credit card info...
Sony was supposedly offered a chance to buy the DB [database] back but didn'.....


http://cnet.co/ioz5b6
So what good does it do if Sony buy back the stolen DB? It's not like that's the only copy or something... Hmmm, the part about reports of unauthorized charges is disturbing.

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29. April 2011 @ 13:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Originally posted by Mrguss:
4-29-11
Hackers claim to have stolen PSN credit card info...
Sony was supposedly offered a chance to buy the DB [database] back but didn'.....


http://cnet.co/ioz5b6
So what good does it do if Sony buy back the stolen DB? It's not like that's the only copy or something... Hmmm, the part about reports of unauthorized charges is disturbing.
It's all unconfirmed rumor and media fear mongering BS until verified by reputable sources. There is far more information (at this point in time) that nothing has gotten out which wasn't encrypted along with banks, credit card companies and more showing/saying there is no suspected rise in fraud activity.

UK financial services industry

Visa

Online Bank on PSN Hack

Major US Banks on PSN Hack

Wells Fargo, American Express, and MasterCard say there's no unauthorized activity tied to leak

PSN credit card data was encrypted, 'no evidence' it was taken

It's mostly forum posts and websites/media garnering for hits by capitalizing on bold statements that have no confirmable sources in their articles (just like CNET above citing "forum posts"). And yet again (if it was/is true) that's just more confirmation about who ever did this, did not do it for "consumer rights", and does not have our backs...

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30. April 2011 @ 13:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by plazma247:
oh the flames.... down tiger.. !!
Haha, cheers Plaz.


@Oner,
yeah, there will be a lot of unsubstantiated media fear mongering going on. But the worst thing is that I doubt that we'll ever get to the bottom of it. The Banks like to keep mum on any infiltrations, for example. Sony pretended it was doing maintenance till it publicly went on for so long that they had to make some sort of statement. (Actually several it seems... some of them conflicting.) By that time the Wall Street Journal seemed to be breathing down their necks.

Maybe Four Corners will do a report someday...

With a bit of luck these hackers don't have a farm of jailbroken PS3s mining the codes yow! lol.

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

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30. April 2011 @ 13:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just a thunk...

what's Zippy been up to? He's been suspiciously quite of late...

:D

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30. April 2011 @ 21:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Jemborg:
Just a thunk...

what's Zippy been up to? He's been suspiciously quite of late...

:D
That's a good question. I dunno?

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30. April 2011 @ 23:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Oner:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
Just a thunk...

what's Zippy been up to? He's been suspiciously quite of late...

:D
That's a good question. I dunno?
Hmmm...

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

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