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Spanish authorities arrest three 'Anonymous' numbers over PSN hack
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article published on 10 June, 2011
Authorities in Spain have arrested three members of the hacking group Anonymous, each of which was allegedly part of the attack on the PlayStation Network where a file was found on the server with Anonymous' calling card.
The arrests follow a plot by the group to attack Spain?s Central Electoral Board website, among other Spanish sites.
Police have posted pictures of IRC chatlogs in ... [ read the full article ]
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elflaco91
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11. June 2011 @ 18:11 |
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Do you really think that a group like Anon that they are professionals and know what they do, they will let a folder called "Anonymous" in SOny's server hahahaha Hell no! That wasn't Anonymous. Sony is just blaming them because they cant find the real hackers.
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11. June 2011 @ 21:31 |
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Originally posted by elflaco91:
Do you really think that a group like Anon that they are professionals and know what they do, they will let a folder called "Anonymous" in SOny's server hahahaha Hell no! That wasn't Anonymous. Sony is just blaming them because they cant find the real hackers.
What the hell are you talking about? If you're speaking in broad terms, then yeah, I suppose I get your joke... Otherwise, maybe you should; oh, I don't know, build up to your punchline instead of just dropping your audience with, "...and Bobby slipped in dog shit!"
You know, dinner and a movie dude...
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11. June 2011 @ 22:21 |
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It's a rant that has been going on for some time I didn't think it even deserved being addressed again Russ, but your right.
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Gnawnivek
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11. June 2011 @ 22:34 |
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Originally posted by Joshewah:
"Authorities in Spain have arrested three members of the hacking group Anonymous..."
That line really frustrates me. There is no hacking group named anonymous. Anyone who does anything anonymously online is technically part of the anonymous collective. There's no leader, there's no meeting place... If you are online anonymously you are anonymous.
It's like saying, "Authorities in Spain have arrested three humans who use the internet"
Three internet users suspected of PSN breach, does that sound better?
Peace!
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drhanaba
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12. June 2011 @ 00:23 |
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@Killer Bug
Man, get your head from out of your behind.You are talking about infiltrating and monkeying with someone else's property. As such, there in no non-maliscious hacking. Stop being cowards, hiding behind annonimity, and take your protest to the street. This so called protest is no protest at all; it's criminal activity! Sorry for the soap box but we need to stop playing around with these cry babies. Just saying!
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12. June 2011 @ 07:19 |
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Originally posted by brockie:
@xboxdvl2 if you think breaking into sites is not stealing then that is up to you to me it is stealing.
if information is taken it is stealing (as info was stolen).mr movies i agree with you on the breaking and entering.might even be considered criminal trespass.what i meant was if someone hacks something they own or in a non criminal way they are still considered a hacker even though they have not commited a crime.hackers are being labelled as criminals regardless of wether they have actually broken the law.
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12. June 2011 @ 07:54 |
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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by brockie:
@xboxdvl2 if you think breaking into sites is not stealing then that is up to you to me it is stealing.
if information is taken it is stealing (as info was stolen).mr movies i agree with you on the breaking and entering.might even be considered criminal trespass.what i meant was if someone hacks something they own or in a non criminal way they are still considered a hacker even though they have not commited a crime.hackers are being labelled as criminals regardless of wether they have actually broken the law.
Your right if you reverse engineer or modify something you own it should not be against the law in my mind but unfortunately big business disagrees and the courts seem to go with the money so what can you do.
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12. June 2011 @ 10:40 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
It's a rant that has been going on for some time I didn't think it even deserved being addressed again Russ, but your right.
Thanks for the heads up... I read him late in the evening... meds kicked in... nurse was pushing my wheelchair away at the last minute... then the flashbacks of a Floyd concert I supposedly worked kicked in again...
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Gnawnivek
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12. June 2011 @ 11:46 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by brockie:
@xboxdvl2 if you think breaking into sites is not stealing then that is up to you to me it is stealing.
if information is taken it is stealing (as info was stolen).mr movies i agree with you on the breaking and entering.might even be considered criminal trespass.what i meant was if someone hacks something they own or in a non criminal way they are still considered a hacker even though they have not commited a crime.hackers are being labelled as criminals regardless of wether they have actually broken the law.
Your right if you reverse engineer or modify something you own it should not be against the law in my mind but unfortunately big business disagrees and the courts seem to go with the money so what can you do.
As I have mentioned a number of time. There's nothing wrong with modifying things you own, but if the things you're working eventually replicated by a lot of other people and there's a potential threat to the society, then there will be laws to stop such modifications (guns, cars etc.)
Gaming consoles are not that serious, granted, but as the online usage/functionality expands, there will be laws. It's not saying you can't modify, just that the line is drawn (it's already been discussed everywhere). You can do whatever you want with the console, the knowledge to modify can be used both ways and I hate to say it, most people use such knowledge for their personal gains (let it be pirating games or stealing other users' account info).
Peace!
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12. June 2011 @ 16:26 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by brockie:
@xboxdvl2 if you think breaking into sites is not stealing then that is up to you to me it is stealing.
if information is taken it is stealing (as info was stolen).mr movies i agree with you on the breaking and entering.might even be considered criminal trespass.what i meant was if someone hacks something they own or in a non criminal way they are still considered a hacker even though they have not commited a crime.hackers are being labelled as criminals regardless of wether they have actually broken the law.
Your right if you reverse engineer or modify something you own it should not be against the law in my mind but unfortunately big business disagrees and the courts seem to go with the money so what can you do.
As I have mentioned a number of time. There's nothing wrong with modifying things you own, but if the things you're working eventually replicated by a lot of other people and there's a potential threat to the society, then there will be laws to stop such modifications (guns, cars etc.)
Gaming consoles are not that serious, granted, but as the online usage/functionality expands, there will be laws. It's not saying you can't modify, just that the line is drawn (it's already been discussed everywhere). You can do whatever you want with the console, the knowledge to modify can be used both ways and I hate to say it, most people use such knowledge for their personal gains (let it be pirating games or stealing other users' account info).
I don't know about that I like the fact that you can take a Ruger and mil a part or two to make it fully automatic without going through all of the red tape nonsense to get one legally. But then I don't think I should have to register my guns either, this new P.C. world kind of sucks! :)
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12. June 2011 @ 19:51 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by brockie:
@xboxdvl2 if you think breaking into sites is not stealing then that is up to you to me it is stealing.
if information is taken it is stealing (as info was stolen).mr movies i agree with you on the breaking and entering.might even be considered criminal trespass.what i meant was if someone hacks something they own or in a non criminal way they are still considered a hacker even though they have not commited a crime.hackers are being labelled as criminals regardless of wether they have actually broken the law.
Your right if you reverse engineer or modify something you own it should not be against the law in my mind but unfortunately big business disagrees and the courts seem to go with the money so what can you do.
As I have mentioned a number of time. There's nothing wrong with modifying things you own, but if the things you're working eventually replicated by a lot of other people and there's a potential threat to the society, then there will be laws to stop such modifications (guns, cars etc.)
Gaming consoles are not that serious, granted, but as the online usage/functionality expands, there will be laws. It's not saying you can't modify, just that the line is drawn (it's already been discussed everywhere). You can do whatever you want with the console, the knowledge to modify can be used both ways and I hate to say it, most people use such knowledge for their personal gains (let it be pirating games or stealing other users' account info).
I don't know about that I like the fact that you can take a Ruger and mil a part or two to make it fully automatic without going through all of the red tape nonsense to get one legally. But then I don't think I should have to register my guns either, this new P.C. world kind of sucks! :)
It's also not very difficult to make a Glock fully auto...the only problem is, if you get caught with a firearm that does not have the proper Class 3 attached to it, well ~ that would be an instant prison sentence.
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hearme0
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13. June 2011 @ 09:25 |
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Could be just a scapegoat too. Authorities would rather blame an innocent man than not get credit for finding any culprit.
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Gnawnivek
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13. June 2011 @ 13:21 |
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Do people even care about scapegoats? The tactic is nothing new (they catch the right people or not). What's new is that cyber attacks are now center of attention, there will be consequences other than empty talk.
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13. June 2011 @ 14:41 |
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Good Lord I mentioned meds & a Ruger popped Up!!!
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13. June 2011 @ 18:28 |
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Originally posted by LordRuss:
Good Lord I mentioned meds & a Ruger popped Up!!!
Maybe you need more meds? LOL
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13. June 2011 @ 19:42 |
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Always wanted to fill the gun cabinet...
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13. June 2011 @ 20:29 |
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It's a new age when you and I were kids be brought knifes to school, ran around the neighborhood with sling-shots, wrist-rockets, bows & arrows, we made firecrackers and carried matches. In today?s world we would be considered terrorists and insane criminals especially if we didn't wear our bicycle helmet. What a joke huh!
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13. June 2011 @ 20:41 |
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I don't know about your area but when hunting season came around my high school allowed us to bring our rifles in with us so we could go right to the stands after class.
People would freak these days. I had a rifle in the rack in the back and 2 pistols in the glove. thought nothing of it for the longest time. Still wouldn't. Still didn't while I was in the military.
Man did things change. Kinda sucky now... ish.
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13. June 2011 @ 20:56 |
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Originally posted by LordRuss:
I don't know about your area but when hunting season came around my high school allowed us to bring our rifles in with us so we could go right to the stands after class.
People would freak these days. I had a rifle in the rack in the back and 2 pistols in the glove. thought nothing of it for the longest time. Still wouldn't. Still didn't while I was in the military.
Man did things change. Kinda sucky now... ish.
Yes we could do that too plus we had a fire arms class as well which was big time fun. I get a kick out of some of my relatives, you even mention guns and they disappear like you?re going to go on some rampage.
It is sucky these days, actually I'd say I'm around a bunch of chicken shits. I've walked through streets all over the world in very nasty places without many problems and people here are afraid to walk through their neighborhood, again what a joke!
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tarzan322
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14. June 2011 @ 23:29 |
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These guys just don't seem to understand that pissing people off is a surefire way to get gain the wrong kind of attention. NATO has already marked them as being considered cyber terrorist. That means ever one of them that is caught, bypasses the hacker issue altogether in court, and goes straight to international terrorist, which carries far heftier penalties than simple hacking does. Anonymous isn't too bright, probably why they are called Anonymous. They couldn't come up with a better name.
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tarzan322
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14. June 2011 @ 23:29 |
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These guys just don't seem to understand that pissing people off is a surefire way to get gain the wrong kind of attention. NATO has already marked them as being considered cyber terrorist. That means ever one of them that is caught, bypasses the hacker issue altogether in court, and goes straight to international terrorist, which carries far heftier penalties than simple hacking does. Anonymous isn't too bright, probably why they are called Anonymous. They couldn't come up with a better name.
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Gnawnivek
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15. June 2011 @ 09:05 |
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I don't understand those people keep on telling others what Anonymous is/are either. I kept bumping into those comments like "there's no Anonymous, the authorities just don't get it, you can't server the snake's head when there's none." etc... Hmmm, okay?
Peace!
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16. June 2011 @ 03:16 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
It's a new age when you and I were kids be brought knifes to school, ran around the neighborhood with sling-shots, wrist-rockets, bows & arrows, we made firecrackers and carried matches. In today?s world we would be considered terrorists and insane criminals especially if we didn't wear our bicycle helmet. What a joke huh!
i was in high school from 1998 until 2001.if we got caught with fire crackers they take the student in the office have the cops come in and question the student.eventually the local fireworks shop got shut down cause the cops fined the owners for selling fireworks to teenagers.
back on topic.people like scape goats.it makes the authorities look like they are actually doing something.
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