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PayPal - We have not been hacked
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article published on 19 June, 2011
Web payments firm setting the story straight.
There were some media reports in the latter part of the last week that PayPal had been hacked, and that PayPal account information had been made public by attackers. The company has responded to the claims, asserting with authority that, "the PayPal site has not been breached or hacked in any way."
In reality, a group of hackers claimed ... [ read the full article ]
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Jeffrey_P
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19. June 2011 @ 12:55 |
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BS PayPal has been hacked before to access personal information.
Jeff
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19. June 2011 @ 13:01 |
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Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
BS PayPal has been hacked before to access personal information.
Jeff
Proof? And what does that have to do with the article at hand anyways?
The point of the article is you should different passwords for financial sites (banks, paypal, etc) than you do for gmail, facebook and other less important sites.
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Jeffrey_P
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19. June 2011 @ 13:14 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
BS PayPal has been hacked before to access personal information.
Jeff
Proof? And what does that have to do with the article at hand anyways?
The point of the article is you should different passwords for financial sites (banks, paypal, etc) than you do for gmail, facebook and other less important sites.
Or use your amimal, kids name(s)and/or a simple passwords.
That doesn't change the fact PayPal has been hacked before.
The way it reads is PayPay is invulnerable which is not the case.
I don't need to give you proof, it is well documented.
Jeff
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Mysttic
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19. June 2011 @ 13:45 |
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I don't think Paypal itself has been hacked, or if it has, not in quite some time. But no system is fool proof, and I do not believe Paypal is saying theirs are. I believe what paypal is stating is that they try to stay on top of accounts to make sure each client is safe regardless of a hack. That's honestly as best as you can do it actually, the rest is up to each client to make sure they check regularly for any activity. Hell, I'd honestly buy an email getting hacked before paypal, and that's not because I stating paypal can't be hacked, it can. But it's not quite going with the trend of what hacker groups or individuals who respect freedom of information are doing. Sure eventually you'll get a bad apple out of the hacker group that would use hacking to steal $, credit, accounts and so forth; but not as a common as just being hacked to get info. Basically if you are so concerned, the minute its verified, change your passwords on anything that ties to your name, and investigate fraud if any charges look questionable. Anyone who doesn't do those things are lazy and deserve to be stolen from.
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Jeffrey_P
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19. June 2011 @ 14:28 |
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Originally posted by Mysttic:
I don't think Paypal itself has been hacked, or if it has, not in quite some time. But no system is fool proof, and I do not believe Paypal is saying theirs are. I believe what paypal is stating is that they try to stay on top of accounts to make sure each client is safe regardless of a hack. That's honestly as best as you can do it actually, the rest is up to each client to make sure they check regularly for any activity. Hell, I'd honestly buy an email getting hacked before paypal, and that's not because I stating paypal can't be hacked, it can. But it's not quite going with the trend of what hacker groups or individuals who respect freedom of information are doing. Sure eventually you'll get a bad apple out of the hacker group that would use hacking to steal $, credit, accounts and so forth; but not as a common as just being hacked to get info. Basically if you are so concerned, the minute its verified, change your passwords on anything that ties to your name, and investigate fraud if any charges look questionable. Anyone who doesn't do those things are lazy and deserve to be stolen from.
It doesn't matter if it's Paypal or NoPal, the point is PayPal should not post misleading information.
Jeff
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19. June 2011 @ 14:38 |
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Seeing as PayPal is global and makes it's money like a bank without loans or other means like that of a 'brick & mortar' establishment; they're well aware of the attacks that come & go. They probably do spend more money on security than the average bear than what we have been seeing and thus the reason why we haven't seen them in the news.
I would almost go so far as to say they are one of the few companies that actually broke from the typical corporate models (somewhat) and decided to use the money earned and actually use it to build their business properly. This day in age it really is a wild guess, but one well founded I'm sure.
As I have mentioned in the past, proactive is the best means. All the corporate idiots of today seem to think their desperate millions will be made free & clear so that their get away will leave the next guy holding the blame for the failure. "That" is supposedly their safety feature. Frankly I'm tired of it.
Money = entitlement, or desperate poverty = entitlement. Yet virtually 85% of the US (sorry everybody else, I haven't lived where you are, but I can feel for you too) is literally 2 car repairs or one bad utility bill away from being impoverished.
Money people still won't see it. The rest will. I'm glad PayPal has my back at the moment because my VA pension would be at risk otherwise, but I can fix that pretty quick. Most of you other folks, I'm guessing might be f$^%#ed in two twists of a salted peter?
Man... there needs to be an overhaul, but where to start?
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Jeffrey_P
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19. June 2011 @ 14:58 |
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Originally posted by LordRuss:
Seeing as PayPal is global and makes it's money like a bank without loans or other means like that of a 'brick & mortar' establishment; they're well aware of the attacks that come & go. They probably do spend more money on security than the average bear than what we have been seeing and thus the reason why we haven't seen them in the news.
I would almost go so far as to say they are one of the few companies that actually broke from the typical corporate models (somewhat) and decided to use the money earned and actually use it to build their business properly. This day in age it really is a wild guess, but one well founded I'm sure.
As I have mentioned in the past, proactive is the best means. All the corporate idiots of today seem to think their desperate millions will be made free & clear so that their get away will leave the next guy holding the blame for the failure. "That" is supposedly their safety feature. Frankly I'm tired of it.
Money = entitlement, or desperate poverty = entitlement. Yet virtually 85% of the US (sorry everybody else, I haven't lived where you are, but I can feel for you too) is literally 2 car repairs or one bad utility bill away from being impoverished.
Money people still won't see it. The rest will. I'm glad PayPal has my back at the moment because my VA pension would be at risk otherwise, but I can fix that pretty quick. Most of you other folks, I'm guessing might be f$^%#ed in two twists of a salted peter?
Man... there needs to be an overhaul, but where to start?
I agree. I also have a PayPal account. I never leave money in my account and leave minimal personal information. I just make transactions with it, which is more secure then making transaction unknown with a HTTPS server(s).
Far as overhauls go.. there will always be a way to circumvent whatever means are used for protection.
The best way to stop being hacked, avoid viruses, malware and the like is to disconnect your internet connection. We both know that will ever happen.
Jeff
Yes Papal is better than many far as security goes. Still it does not stop being hacked. PayPal is not immune from some 12 year old hacker.
Happy fathers day.
Jeff
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19. June 2011 @ 16:02 |
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Thanks for the Father's Day... My manners seem to have left me...
And to the rest of the rest of the forum members who have bore offspring, deserving or undeserving...
Happy Father's Day
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plissken13x
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19. June 2011 @ 21:45 |
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Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Originally posted by LordRuss:
Seeing as PayPal is global and makes it's money like a bank without loans or other means like that of a 'brick & mortar' establishment; they're well aware of the attacks that come & go. They probably do spend more money on security than the average bear than what we have been seeing and thus the reason why we haven't seen them in the news.
I would almost go so far as to say they are one of the few companies that actually broke from the typical corporate models (somewhat) and decided to use the money earned and actually use it to build their business properly. This day in age it really is a wild guess, but one well founded I'm sure.
As I have mentioned in the past, proactive is the best means. All the corporate idiots of today seem to think their desperate millions will be made free & clear so that their get away will leave the next guy holding the blame for the failure. "That" is supposedly their safety feature. Frankly I'm tired of it.
Money = entitlement, or desperate poverty = entitlement. Yet virtually 85% of the US (sorry everybody else, I haven't lived where you are, but I can feel for you too) is literally 2 car repairs or one bad utility bill away from being impoverished.
Money people still won't see it. The rest will. I'm glad PayPal has my back at the moment because my VA pension would be at risk otherwise, but I can fix that pretty quick. Most of you other folks, I'm guessing might be f$^%#ed in two twists of a salted peter?
Man... there needs to be an overhaul, but where to start?
I agree. I also have a PayPal account. I never leave money in my account and leave minimal personal information. I just make transactions with it, which is more secure then making transaction unknown with a HTTPS server(s).
Far as overhauls go.. there will always be a way to circumvent whatever means are used for protection.
The best way to stop being hacked, avoid viruses, malware and the like is to disconnect your internet connection. We both know that will ever happen.
Jeff
Yes Papal is better than many far as security goes. Still it does not stop being hacked. PayPal is not immune from some 12 year old hacker.
Happy fathers day.
Jeff
Paypal has never got hacked. If you think so then post some proof.
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Jeffrey_P
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19. June 2011 @ 21:59 |
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solamf30
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19. June 2011 @ 22:45 |
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Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
One instance.
You look up the rest for yourself
Jeff
http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-87647.html
That had to do with someone's info getting stolen probably thru a phishing scam. It was not a database hack. And you are reading what you want in the original article. They are responding to reports out this week that PayPal had been hacked and they said they weren't. Nowhere does it read PayPal has never ever been hacked and never will.
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Jeffrey_P
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19. June 2011 @ 23:29 |
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Originally posted by solamf30:
Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
One instance.
You look up the rest for yourself
Jeff
http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-87647.html
That had to do with someone's info getting stolen probably thru a phishing scam. It was not a database hack. And you are reading what you want in the original article. They are responding to reports out this week that PayPal had been hacked and they said they weren't. Nowhere does it read PayPal has never ever been hacked and never will.
You must be a PayPal employee.
No sever is invulnerable to hacking at least not yet..
I'm not trying to dog you but facts are facts.
Happy fathers day.
Jeff
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solamf30
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20. June 2011 @ 00:14 |
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Didn't say it was invulnerable. The article just stated that it wasn't hacked this week as reported. It could change tomorrow. Who knows. Just think you are overreaching about what this article is about.
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20. June 2011 @ 01:31 |
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Quote:
"the PayPal site has not been breached or hacked in any way.
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20. June 2011 @ 02:34 |
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Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Originally posted by solamf30:
Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
One instance.
You look up the rest for yourself
Jeff
http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-87647.html
That had to do with someone's info getting stolen probably thru a phishing scam. It was not a database hack. And you are reading what you want in the original article. They are responding to reports out this week that PayPal had been hacked and they said they weren't. Nowhere does it read PayPal has never ever been hacked and never will.
You must be a PayPal employee.
No sever is invulnerable to hacking at least not yet..
I'm not trying to dog you but facts are facts.
Happy fathers day.
Jeff
You must be an AlertPay employee.
I've been looking and looking and can't seem to find any of these well-documented hacking cases. I've seen people complain on Yahoo! Answers saying "my account was hacked", probably the victim of a phishing scam...and tons of other phishing victims...but not anything related to Paypal being hacked. The closest I could find was "Gmail was hacked, therefore Paypal and Ebay have been hacked by association."
Seems to me that's it's never before been hacked...seems pretty invulnerable to me so far. You should provide some of that proof that you don't want to provide so badly.
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20. June 2011 @ 03:31 |
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If anyone is industrious enough to hack paypal they are welcome to the 23p in my account.
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20. June 2011 @ 13:53 |
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Originally posted by smiler123:
If anyone is industrious enough to hack paypal they are welcome to the 23p in my account.
Happy shopping
NOW That's what I'm talking about!
I'm just worried about back tracking into my original bank account that probably "isn't" better protected. Frankly, nothing is left dormant in my PayPal account at all. It's nothing but a portal. Although I'm not daft... I know several online businesses use it as their source for maintaining their finances.
Crap has to stop though...
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plissken13x
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20. June 2011 @ 17:41 |
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Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
One instance.
You look up the rest for yourself
Jeff
http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-87647.html
If you can't tell the difference between a hack and a phishing attempt on an user then you should stop now.
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Jeffrey_P
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21. June 2011 @ 05:43 |
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"Unverified new user"
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21. June 2011 @ 10:02 |
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Ok, now I'm lost... in translation... I mean, I couldn't use my original username that I wanted anyway, much less a url. But, what was http's comment in relation to?
The phishing thing I got... plissken contradicted himself, but I got it... But the "come on"... Did my browser miss a few blocks of 'replies'? The numbering seems right?
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21. June 2011 @ 23:53 |
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@robbed
Are you sure it wasn't in tandem with ebay linked to paypal? It's usually someone outside paypal that ends up getting into your account, not actually the criminal getting into paypal by brute force. I.e., they got your information through ebay or another source, got into your paypal account & then accessed your banking information from there.
Just a thought and a redundant question... not trying to pry into your personal business.
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