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Netflix separates DVD and Streaming services, will cost much more now if you want both
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article published on 12 July, 2011
Netflix has announced today that it has separated its DVD and streaming services, which means if you want both, the price just increased substantially.
1-DVD-at-time unlimited plans will cost $7.99 per month, the cheapest it has ever been, but if you want unlimited streaming you will need to pay an additional $7.99.
Currently, a 1-DVD plus unlimited streaming plan costs just $9.99.
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Jeffrey_P
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12. July 2011 @ 20:26 |
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That's why I said eventually. Can't really put a date stamp on it. With Sony and other movie distributors dictating when Netflix can set in stone a release date of current movies, the hand writing is on the wall.
I liked Netflix for what it was in 1996. I was a subscriber from that year until four months ago. It is my option to stay on board or kick Netflix to the curb.
Seems the new price structure has raised some questions from users if it is worth it or not.
With Netflix's huge users base they could give a crap about what people think. Fine, I exercised my right to cancel them.
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12. July 2011 @ 21:16 |
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i love Netflix... dont really know what next, but really unhappy with this change... Will wait and see, will be looking for other options, thought i wouldnt say this but maybe is time to go back to cable or satellite.
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12. July 2011 @ 21:48 |
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I just purchased a Roku XDS box about two weeks ago from Amazon.com Looks like I will be returning it tomorrow. It's OK, and works, but some video's stop and start again, some are blurry, others are excellent. The movie selection is limited so I can't see that paying extra for the service is justified. Maybe a buck or two, but certainly not twice what I pay now for one DVD out at a time.
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Jeffrey_P
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12. July 2011 @ 22:15 |
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I assume you are steaming?
In your case it maybe your internet ISP limiting or slow xfer rates..
When the buffer is empty and acquiring new data you will experience the symptoms you describe. Even more so when you go into hi-res mode. Too much information..
Jeff
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jookycola
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12. July 2011 @ 22:40 |
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The Sh*t has definitely hit the fan. i tried to call customer service to cancel my account and voice my dissatisfaction at being charged more for nothing.
Netflix isn't taking ANY calls anymore on their 24 hour customer support number 1-866-716-0414. They simply tell you in a recorded voice "they are too busy with higher than normal calls" and then tell you to "call another time"....then they hang up on you.
Now i'm really pissed off. What if i had a legitimate problem with my service? If they can't handle the wrath of the consumer...then they shouldn't have gone along with this totally stupid plot to begin with.
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Jeffrey_P
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12. July 2011 @ 22:49 |
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"The Sh*t has definitely hit the fan. i tried to call customer service to cancel my account and voice my dissatisfaction at being charged more for nothing."
You can cancel your subscription from the Netflix website.
https://www.netflix.com/
I would wait a while to verbally insult them :) Too many people are trying to do the same thing.
Jeff
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12. July 2011 @ 23:02 |
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Your right about streaming, although Netflix seems to crap out more than any other channel on my unit. Anyway, I might reconsider, as Roku has many other channels (More than any other streaming media player) that I like. I'll just probably dump the Netflix streaming subscription and just go back to one DVD out at a time. Thanks for the info though!
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jookycola
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12. July 2011 @ 23:16 |
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Nope, I kept calling back till I got through, the guy was hoarse probably from taking all the complaint calls. I didn't want to cancel from a computer...I wanted them to KNOW why I was leaving. It's all done now.
Why would I pay 60% more for the same service when BB blu-rays are .99 cents a night and $2.99 for new releases? And with Blockbuster I don't have to wait them to come in the mail, and I can get games, and i don't have to wait 30 days for new releases. Netflix is now at a financial disadvantage to Blockbuster. It's now cheaper to go to BB than to rent from Netflix or watch their crappy pixelated streaming service.
Facebook groups boycotting Netflix are exploding. I would imagine the guy that thought this up probably will be unemployed tomorrow.
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Jeffrey_P
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12. July 2011 @ 23:57 |
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Oops wrong thread :)
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llongtheD
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13. July 2011 @ 00:16 |
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Holy Sh*t!
Are we all so addicted to this "media" that we can't find something better to do?
Maybe we've all been sitting on our couches too long being "entertained."
The fact of the matter is that all the people b*tching here will pony up the extra money and get their media.
Netflix knows this... and your all f*cked.
Look at a group of young people sitting around hammering out text messages on their phones. They can't even carry on a conversation.
The majority, regular people, could control things again... but we are too busy being entertained.
If your fish seems sick, put it back in the water.
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jookycola
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13. July 2011 @ 02:54 |
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Your actually very wrong about that. Netflix doesn't hold a monopoly on video rentals. That's their biggest mistake. If Blockbuster went totally out of business and Redbox never existed then, and only then would people "have" to "pony up the extra money" But what sucks for Netflix is people have options. So what Netflix really did is corporate suicide.
Nobody is so addicted to media that they would bend over and take in the arse from Netflix when there are tons of better/cheaper options available. I think they are "assuming" people will but putting your whole company at risk over an assumption is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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llongtheD
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13. July 2011 @ 03:50 |
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Originally posted by jookycola:
Your actually very wrong about that. Netflix doesn't hold a monopoly on video rentals. That's their biggest mistake. If Blockbuster went totally out of business and Redbox never existed then, and only then would people "have" to "pony up the extra money" But what sucks for Netflix is people have options. So what Netflix really did is corporate suicide.
Nobody is so addicted to media that they would bend over and take in the arse from Netflix when there are tons of better/cheaper options available. I think they are "assuming" people will but putting your whole company at risk over an assumption is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
I know it sounds completely stupid jooky, but lets see what happens. I'll bet the money they make from this outweighs the few subscribers who give them the finger. People in general are creatures of habit, and we've been taught well.
No where in my comment did I say netflix had a monopoly, I was making an observation about the convenience, and a persons reluctance to change. Its been happening to people for generations, once you get comfortable even if antagonized, you'll stay where your at.
If your fish seems sick, put it back in the water.
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llongtheD
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13. July 2011 @ 03:51 |
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double post.
If your fish seems sick, put it back in the water.
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jookycola
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13. July 2011 @ 04:20 |
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This was enough for me to cancel. And I did and went to BlockBuster and rented 2 Blu-rays and a game it cost me $9. One of the movies Netflix won't even have to rent till the middle of next month. They really screwed the pooch. Not sure if you are on Face book....but Cancel Netflix FB pages are filling up fast.
I totally get what you mean how people are total "Sheeple" and they get into something and stick with it because it's easy. But this is not something that is that easy. It's just as convenient and easy to drive to Blockbuster or hit up a Redbox as it is to do Netflix...and you get instant satisfaction. I think it will be more disastrous to Netflix than you think, but we'll see.
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molsen
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13. July 2011 @ 07:53 |
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I find this unacceptable. I have been a subscriber since 2003. What I do not like is not only is the streaming not that great at times, but movies that were HD are not always on streaming HD. Plus, I have to pay extra to get BR. Really?
I know for sure I will not continue with streaming and I will voice my opinion soon, after the first wave of pi$$ed people call.
I will not cancel my disc delivery though.
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13. July 2011 @ 09:26 |
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Well if you guys are so unsatisfied with netflix new pricing strategy I suggest you spend your money on a decent vpn service instead and then torrent all the movies and tv shows you could want. There are some decent vpn services out there for 10 bucks or less :)
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baxter00
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13. July 2011 @ 09:29 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Question for our readers...
How much would you pay for the streaming service if Netflix began streaming ALL new releases day-in-date with their physical DVD release? Would you cut your cable bill out?
Actually, I would be willing to pay, say $12 a month, for Netfux if they streamed new releases with roughly 5 minutes of commercials that you COULD NOT fast forward through, and 1 minute of commercials you COULD NOT fast forward through if you pause/stop, then resume the movie. To me this makes sense as they would be able to gain additional funding through advertisement, gain more content and be able to provide MORE original programming. A little bit of commercial is worth it to me. Honestly, would you actually sit there watching them, or would you just do something else for 5 minutes?
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13. July 2011 @ 11:58 |
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This doesn't seem fair to subscribers.
Hmm..Im surprised KillerBug hasn't voiced his opinion on all this, especially with all his boasting about nexflix is the best. Not that I'm saying it is or isn't but I thought I'd see a comment from him by now.
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Jeffrey_P
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13. July 2011 @ 12:19 |
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Originally posted by plutonash:
This doesn't seem fair to subscribers.
Hmm..Im surprised KillerBug hasn't voiced his opinion on all this, especially with all his boasting about nexflix is the best. Not that I'm saying it is or isn't but I thought I'd see a comment from him by now.
No doubt KB has been humbled by these last current events.
Even though I tried to warn people. It seems to have fallen on deaf ears.
Live and learn.
Jeff
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13. July 2011 @ 13:28 |
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With this stupid move made by Netflix, they might just become the next "Hollywood Video" that files for Chapter 11 in the next year or two.
I'm surprise they didn't creep up the price slowly like they did last year with the $1 increase for single DVD and just raise it up $1-$2 this year, but instead they raised it straight to $6 this year... wow they got balls.
If you are one of the lucky ones like me who actually got hold of a Netflix representative on the phone, I asked them why do they increase the price year after year. Her response was, "We really see the Streaming and actual DVD copy being a separate thing, so that is why we charge it separately."
I then asked her, "Are you serious, you guys just woke up and realize this now, why didn't you do something like this years back, why should I pay extra for something I already have... I'll tell you why, because you are just doing a Marketing scam and think people won't go back to BlockBuster or Redbox."
I'm going to make a prediction what Netflix will do next after the wave of phone calls they are receiving from all of us piss off users and message board forums that are blowing up. They will send an email stating that we have increase our library selection for Streaming by adding more New Releases to our catalogs. We all know they are just going to add New Release movies that no one cares about or that goes straight to rental. In other words it's going to be another Marketing gimmick they are going to pitch and some people will fall for it, but I'm tired of the games they are playing.
If you are going to increase your prices every year, then offer a more incentive for us to stay with you... don't increase the price and nothing for us to benefit out of it other than filling your pockets with our money.
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dEwMe
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13. July 2011 @ 13:33 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Question for our readers...
How much would you pay for the streaming service if Netflix began streaming ALL new releases day-in-date with their physical DVD release? Would you cut your cable bill out?
Hmmm...hard to say because I am not one to rewatch old movies much so would be buying only for the new releases. Prob cheaper to just buy the DVDs as they come out...
Far as cutting cable? Hell no! Not by a long shot! My family watches tons of stuff on TV and new stuff comes out all the time. Movies are a small percentage of what I watch. Unless you meant cut out movie channels like HBO,,,I could see someone doing that. I don't think they are worth the $10 a month either though...
Just my $0.02,
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13. July 2011 @ 13:46 |
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When Netnuts upped their subscription on me $6 and tapped my bank account without my permission; which is how they glean their funds I know, I immediately put a halt to the whole thing. They didn't give me more than a weeks notice. Just plopped it in my lap & had me grab my ankles.
Sure, it was only $6 bucks, but look where they have taken it now. Not that I'm any kind of soothsayer either, but I too saw this coming. Looks to me like the 'mom & pop' video shops might be having a comeback after all.
As for video streaming? That service can place its lips firmly upon upon my bulbous keister & make with the artificial flatulence.
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pirkster
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13. July 2011 @ 14:08 |
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Costs "much" more?
Only if you're on a current cheapskate plan.
I currently have the primo plan (3 + streaming) and am only seeing a $4-5 change. Not happy, but it's not as big a deal to me as those on the bottom plan.
Smart to separately price the mailer and streaming plans. That way, they can be priced according to the market for two very different services and manage costs for each operation separately.
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g_slide
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13. July 2011 @ 14:32 |
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Originally posted by pirkster:
Costs "much" more?
Only if you're on a current cheapskate plan.
I currently have the primo plan (3 + streaming) and am only seeing a $4-5 change. Not happy, but it's not as big a deal to me as those on the bottom plan.
Smart to separately price the mailer and streaming plans. That way, they can be priced according to the market for two very different services and manage costs for each operation separately.
How can you say that's smart to separate it when we have had it this way for years. If it was so smart they would have done this a long time ago.
The only solely purpose for this is to gain profit and probably to get people off of hard copy of DVD's. I'm sure they would rather eliminate their employees stuffing DVD's for us users, which means more profit for them because they could just focus on Streaming. To keep their cost down, they have to keep increasing extra charges onto us consumers.
Sure some people can afford Netflix to keep raising their prices, but I'm tired of prices going up and the economy is still down. If they see that people are just willing to go with their new price increase, then the jacka** that sits around the office will just increase again the next 2-3 fiscal quarters.
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Jeffrey_P
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13. July 2011 @ 14:37 |
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Originally posted by LordRuss:
When Netnuts upped their subscription on me $6 and tapped my bank account without my permission; which is how they glean their funds I know, I immediately put a halt to the whole thing. They didn't give me more than a weeks notice. Just plopped it in my lap & had me grab my ankles.
Sure, it was only $6 bucks, but look where they have taken it now. Not that I'm any kind of soothsayer either, but I too saw this coming. Looks to me like the 'mom & pop' video shops might be having a comeback after all.
As for video streaming? That service can place its lips firmly upon upon my bulbous keister & make with the artificial flatulence.
How does it feel to have the Eiffel Tower shoved up your ass?
I for one saw it coming. That's why I cancelled my Netfux account four months ago.
Quiet is kept, this latest increase is just the beginning. Now that Netfux has such a huge user data base, the powers at be can just blow people off.
Like I said I was a member since 1996.. Not anymore............
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