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Norway terrorist used video games to train
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article published on 26 July, 2011
Anders Behring Breivik, the 32-year-old psychopath behind this week's tragedy in Norway, has detailed how he used video games to train for the massacre.
On Monday, Breivik set off a bomb outside of a government building then shot up a labor party youth camp, killing 93 people (mainly teenagers) in his spree.
In a 1500 page manifesto, the terrorist explains his use of Modern Warfare 2:
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28. July 2011 @ 14:35 |
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I remember after 9/11 there were reports that the hijackers might have used Microsoft Flight Simulator, more or less based on the fact that you could actually fly a plane into the WTC using the simulator. Of course, in actual fact, several of the hijackers just took flying lessons....
There seems to be a double-standard with any kind of video game vs. the real world. As somebody said earlier, people would be better off getting angry with books in this case as his extremism was fuelled not by video games, but by reading works put out by others.
You can't learn how to build a fertilizer nitrate bomb from Call of Duty games, and you certainly can't rely on it as a simulator for marksmanship in the real world either. And no research conducted has yet shown that a video game could turn an otherwise normal (mentally sound) person into an insane killer, or even just a more violent or bad tempered person than before.
In the same way you can't blame Marilyn Manson for the Columbine High School shootings, and can't blame the Beatle's Helter Skelter for the Manson family's killings, you can't blame video games for any part of Anders Breivik's massacre either.
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29. July 2011 @ 15:19 |
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a major retailer banning 51 games in Norway now I new it would happen.
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29. July 2011 @ 16:08 |
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Originally posted by brockie:
a major retailer banning 51 games in Norway now I new it would happen.
Folks are always blaming something other than themselves. Not that it's the Norwegian folks fault that this travesty happened, just that they're real quick to ban the violent video games rather than the 1000 other pages of Christianity BS he touted as being the more deep rooted basis for his attack. Needless to say, there won't be a ban on religious practices till this mess gets cleared up will there.
If it's a mad dog & no amount of love or medication is going to cure its ailment, so what do you normally do before someone gets hurt? I know he's being dealt with "now", but where was everybody when he was off his rocker to begin with? News reports already precluded this notion, so where was the help?
Nowhere. 'It's not my problem', 'it'll go away' or 'it'll solve itself' is no longer an excuse. When Frankenturd was dancing around singing "I'm a cookie, eat me" they should have dealt with him then. But negligence & a blind eye like we've all been doing with our judicial system, governing bodies & corporate moguls have now all gotten us in a bind that we're just about to a point of starting a cleansing fire to get it all solved.
Sorry, but taking some plastic & cardboard off a shelf isn't going to stop the madness. Stop lying to ourselves, get out of the denial, grow a pair and make EVERYBODY take responsibility for their actions.
"I've got a bunch of money" or "the law didn't say that murdering someone 'that' specific way wasn't illegal" doesn't cut it either.
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brockie
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29. July 2011 @ 22:16 |
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100% agree LordRuss.
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30. July 2011 @ 05:23 |
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hang that bitch right in the open and let his corpse feed the birds
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2. August 2011 @ 06:23 |
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Originally posted by LordRuss:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
BTW...I don't think that right or left wing extremist are taking over the government. I think that the right and the left are virtually indistinguishable, and that they have had control since long before I was born.
If I might be so rude as to interject... I believe I was the jerk making the right/left wing comments. Or have I once again in a fit of narcissism thought the comment was indeed about me?
Yes, that reply was to you...the candidates in my country are all either Nazi wanna-be bastards or Soviet wanna-be bastards...and in the end it is all socialist crap. Should we raise taxes while cutting services, or should we cut services while raising taxes? That is the argument that they fight...and in the end they always cut services while increasing spending and raising taxes. Just look at the debt ceiling debate...a whole month of pandering and the only thing they cut were a handful of public assistance programs that are only needed because of the mess they made of the economy. As for the half-dozen pointless, unwinnable wars? There will be no cuts, and no one has any intention of doing anything about the fact that the latest war was not approved by congress and is technically an act of treason on the part of the president.
Originally posted by brockie:
a major retailer banning 51 games in Norway now I new it would happen.
There is also a movement in Australia now...I predicted it, but I never expected that the Christians would be the ones bringing it...not when the guy's whole reason for the attack was Christianity-based hate, and when it would make more sense to ban the bible because of this than to ban video games.
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2. August 2011 @ 07:14 |
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.....and in the end they always cut services while increasing spending and raising taxes.
Yeah but only for 'the little people'.
The ultra wealthy & the businesses & corps keep on getting the tax-breaks, grants, & all the rest that makes up their version of welfare.
Meanwhile Fox et al have enough of those at the bottom & in the middle convinced that this is great & a defense of their interests.
Teabaggers funded to defend the ultra wealthy likes of the Kochs and yet convinced it's the regular guy they are helping.
Much as I accept that this pantomime about supposedly left & right is in many ways a sham (the business & rich people's party always wins) the current right-wing in the US is stunningly shameless in their manipulation of those who have so little (and even those who imagine they are doing ok are usually onlky a few paychecks away from complete destitution).
It's incredible but on & on it goes.
It would be funny if it wasn't so tragically pathetic.
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2. August 2011 @ 11:53 |
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Originally posted by Interestx:
...the current right-wing in the US is stunningly shameless in their manipulation of those who have so little (and even those who imagine they are doing ok are usually onlky a few paychecks away from complete destitution).
It's incredible but on & on it goes.
It would be funny if it wasn't so tragically pathetic.
And then the left wing 'up & caves into the whims of right'.
Seems the presidency is a eunuch & money wins again. I hate to say it, but I really do wish something would happen that brings the whole economic classes back down to a level playing field again. Basically something completely out of these elitist snobs control that forces all of them back into some semblance of reality.
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2. August 2011 @ 12:04 |
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.....you don't seriously think they are in any way truly 'left-wing' do you?
Slightly less right-wing would be a much more accurate description if you ask me.
Certainly by European standards the Dem.s are pretty right-wing, just not so much as the average Rep.....and a lot less than the barking teabagger gang.
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2. August 2011 @ 13:29 |
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Originally posted by Interestx:
.....you don't seriously think they are in any way truly 'left-wing' do you?
Slightly less right-wing would be a much more accurate description if you ask me.
Certainly by European standards the Dem.s are pretty right-wing, just not so much as the average Rep.....and a lot less than the barking teabagger gang.
Everybody as a whole are MOR (middle of the road), which is why I stray away from political debates as a norm. people start to think they 'have' to take a side - debates get out of hand - mudslinging starts & nothing gets solved. So your interpretation is correct, with a bit of a snag...
Apparently a new psychic phenomenon in the US has caused the TeaBaggers to think they have more input than they should. If memory serves, they have almost less than 1% of anything in congress, but yet they seem to be making the biggest stink. They're the ones I believe to be full blown right wing (conservative to the point of stopping light).
Their scary, christian based, wealth oriented agenda is getting pushed & most of the American public is a bit a dumbfounded. The TBs are sounding just as radical as the religious zealots we we're supposedly going to war with, so why they haven't been dismissed as babbling idiots & chased with fire hoses is a complete mystery. We could speculate on their true agenda & who's pulling their strings for days, but then we just end right back in the same debate we left.
Voters 'could' change this cascade of insanity, but voting doesn't seem to matter when the election is preloaded with individuals left to fill a 'lesser evil' gap. This kind of observation ends up leaving folks throwing their hands up in defeat & figuring "why bother", which also plays into the hands of those seeking power & control.
My intention isn't to label anyone. Most of my comments are left with a "shoe fits" analogy. So if you conduct yourself (myself included, I'm not elitist) as a stereotype, don't come crying when you get labeled.
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6. August 2011 @ 00:48 |
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It doesn't take any kind of experiance to go and blow away a bunch of unarmed young people, Iv'e read some posts on different sites he had a beef with muslim extremists something or other, and than he took it out on these people that had nothing to do with any of it, don't know if these stories are true or not, even it it was, than join some armed forces somewhere if that's your beef, but to gun down the innocent, damn gutless pig.
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6. August 2011 @ 01:26 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
There will be no cuts, and no one has any intention of doing anything about the fact that the latest war was not approved by congress and is technically an act of treason on the part of the president.
There has not been a congressional declaration of war since WW2.
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6. August 2011 @ 11:05 |
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Originally posted by Azuran:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
There will be no cuts, and no one has any intention of doing anything about the fact that the latest war was not approved by congress and is technically an act of treason on the part of the president.
There has not been a congressional declaration of war since WW2.
I say screw it all. We will all end up being a part of China anyway by 2015, and there is nothing short of closing our borders, defaulting and going to war that could save us from it now. The government and it's practices over the last 4 decades have all but secured our failure. They are the sole reason we no longer export most of our usable goods, but instead import everything and consume all.
Russia and China got it right about the US being nothing more than a parasite that leaches from everyone else. Our economy is proof of that.
And to make matters worse, we have a socialist body of government...THAT WE ELECTED!!!!!
My family knows all too well the effects of socialism and it's policies. German born and raised, so you know. If I could, I would move back in heart beat!
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