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Rumor: 2013 release date for 'Xbox Next'

article published on 20 October, 2011

According to Develop, there are already several projects underway for the upcoming "Xbox Next" console. Microsoft is looking to a 2013 release for the console, which has been dubbed by some as the "Xbox 720." Multiple sources, including processor chip manufacturers and middleware firms, say they expect the console to launch in 2013, but early 2014 is a possibility. Microsoft, of ... [ read the full article ]

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jookycola
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20. October 2011 @ 23:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No Blu-Ray, no interest. SD-DVD is pretty much a dead format.


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21. October 2011 @ 00:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by jookycola:
No Blu-Ray, no interest. SD-DVD is pretty much a dead format.
It will undoubtedly have Blu-ray. No one wants a game on 6 discs lol

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21. October 2011 @ 00:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i think you both might be wrong on this one if i had to guess it will a variant of hd dvd such as cbhd although blu-ray playback is a possibility .
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21. October 2011 @ 00:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
...So we basically don't know anything. It better have bluray support...Microsoft needs to stay at least a little ahead of Nintendo.


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21. October 2011 @ 05:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hd dvd is dead and never coming back ... that pic looks ugly and doesn't look like next gen console and it will not sell well.
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21. October 2011 @ 07:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wasn't "Xbox Next" one of the proposed names when the 360 was in development?

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21. October 2011 @ 07:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
We will hear more rumours in early 2012.I think for now M$ is going to change their minds a couple of times. Some how it needs to intergrate with Win 8. To M$ I can see them roll out a whole new Win8 line including xbox.
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21. October 2011 @ 08:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Some how it needs to intergrate with Win 8. To M$ I can see them roll out a whole new Win8 line including xbox.
It doesn't need to do that, but that's what they would be after. I for one dread that day as much as I dread the new 360 dash release next month. If they want to impress, make it so users can have their own custom dash board, that would blow away their competition.
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21. October 2011 @ 09:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Wasn't "Xbox Next" one of the proposed names when the 360 was in development?

xaznboitx - "(Picture is random mockup)"
I know at least they should make it look real just like some of those fake ones that was shown on youtube website hehe :)

and yes Xbox next was 360 and xbox Xeon but it turns out xeon is emulator created by someone else. I wish they kept that name rather than xbox 360.


I bet that this console will not allow xbox/xbox360 support. MS just wants people to buy their new console to make more money that's why they stopped XBOX support on 360.

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21. October 2011 @ 09:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xaznboitx:
hd dvd is dead and never coming back ... that pic looks ugly and doesn't look like next gen console and it will not sell well.
HD DVD may be dead for video standards but that doesn't mean Microsoft can't alter the medium for video games. This way they don't have to pay Sony licensing fees for Blu-Ray but move to a higher capacity medium.

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21. October 2011 @ 09:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Xplorer4:
Originally posted by xaznboitx:
hd dvd is dead and never coming back ... that pic looks ugly and doesn't look like next gen console and it will not sell well.
HD DVD may be dead for video standards but that doesn't mean Microsoft can't alter the medium for video games. This way they don't have to pay Sony licensing fees for Blu-Ray but move to a higher capacity medium.
i thought ms already using hd dvd for gaming isn't that why the game cost 60.00 same price as ps3 blu ray games?
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If it has BWC its a near instant buy if not when it gets around 200$ is when I will bother with it.

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Nope MS uses DVD9, HD DVD was an add on drive they made and it was movie only.

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21. October 2011 @ 10:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xaznboitx:
Originally posted by Xplorer4:
Originally posted by xaznboitx:
hd dvd is dead and never coming back ... that pic looks ugly and doesn't look like next gen console and it will not sell well.
HD DVD may be dead for video standards but that doesn't mean Microsoft can't alter the medium for video games. This way they don't have to pay Sony licensing fees for Blu-Ray but move to a higher capacity medium.
i thought ms already using hd dvd for gaming isn't that why the game cost 60.00 same price as ps3 blu ray games?
Nope up until this point in time they were still using the standard DVD format. They only offered an add-on for HD-DVD and once HD-DVD got phased out so did the add-on. I guess you can call it a safe move on microsofts behalf.

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21. October 2011 @ 10:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dalecore:
Originally posted by xaznboitx:
Originally posted by Xplorer4:
Originally posted by xaznboitx:
hd dvd is dead and never coming back ... that pic looks ugly and doesn't look like next gen console and it will not sell well.
HD DVD may be dead for video standards but that doesn't mean Microsoft can't alter the medium for video games. This way they don't have to pay Sony licensing fees for Blu-Ray but move to a higher capacity medium.
i thought ms already using hd dvd for gaming isn't that why the game cost 60.00 same price as ps3 blu ray games?
Nope up until this point in time they were still using the standard DVD format. They only offered an add-on for HD-DVD and once HD-DVD got phased out so did the add-on. I guess you can call it a safe move on microsofts behalf.
I dunno looking at how elusive HD DVD is/was it would have been better for them to have went with HDDVD from the start.

Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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Originally posted by Xplorer4:
Originally posted by xaznboitx:
hd dvd is dead and never coming back ... that pic looks ugly and doesn't look like next gen console and it will not sell well.
HD DVD may be dead for video standards but that doesn't mean Microsoft can't alter the medium for video games. This way they don't have to pay Sony licensing fees for Blu-Ray but move to a higher capacity medium.
It will be something along these lines. Don't I remember reading one of their spokesman say they will under no circumstances give in to the BluRay "craze?" Pretty sure they're all about getting paid royalties or whatever but aren't willing to do the same vice versa; they'll kill themselves off before they start giving Sony $10 a console or whatever licensing costs are.
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21. October 2011 @ 10:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
also there was an update for 360 that uses Dual layer disc unless update not out yet but I know there was a beta ver out for testing few months ago. PS3 uncharted 3 almost couldn't fit into blu ray disc format.
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21. October 2011 @ 11:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Xbox 360 has always had support for dual layer DVDs. The firmware I believe you are talking about is MS is doing something different with the way discs data is written to them and they get a few hundred MB of extra data on the disc. I can see MS using HDDVD if they don't want to pay Sony for blu use. They would be stupid to do that because not many people own HDDVD's any more. Almost all consoles to come out in the future will support the newest medium out and that is blu-ray.
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If it's SD DVD, make some space for those game collections
https://forums.playfire.com/_proxy/?[im...00dea73d2[/img]

How the hell do I get images in the forum?

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Originally posted by core2kid:
If it's SD DVD, make some space for those game collections
https://forums.playfire.com/_proxy/?url...bc576600dea73d2

How the hell do I get images in the forum?



Just hit the [IMG] button next to the </> and url buttons.

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n/m you fixed the post LOL

Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.

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21. October 2011 @ 13:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
We all may be dead by then so what's the big deal.

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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Originally posted by core2kid:
If it's SD DVD, make some space for those game collections
https://forums.playfire.com/_proxy/?url...bc576600dea73d2

How the hell do I get images in the forum?



Just hit the [IMG] button next to the </> and url buttons.
I think mines broken. I did that, now you can see the tags in the forum lol.
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Originally posted by xaznboitx:
i thought ms already using hd dvd for gaming isn't that why the game cost 60.00 same price as ps3 blu ray games?

Originally posted by xaznboitx:
also there was an update for 360 that uses Dual layer disc unless update not out yet but I know there was a beta ver out for testing few months ago. PS3 uncharted 3 almost couldn't fit into blu ray disc format.
Wow dude, have you been living under a rock? lol. 360 has used DL DVDs since day 1.

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Originally posted by xaznboitx:

i thought ms already using hd dvd for gaming isn't that why the game cost 60.00 same price as ps3 blu ray games?
No, they cost $60 because they know they can get it. The difference in production costs between a DVD and an HD media format is negligible. One important bit that Nintendo seems to be missing is that it is useful for a device to be able to do more than one thing. DVD support was enough of a side use when the 360 was launched...and now BluRay support has become that same minimum. Like it or not, BluRay won the war and it isn't even the future...it is the present.


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Originally posted by KillerBug:
One important bit that Nintendo seems to be missing is that it is useful for a device to be able to do more than one thing. DVD support was enough of a side use when the 360 was launched...and now BluRay support has become that same minimum. Like it or not, BluRay won the war and it isn't even the future...it is the present.

I have to respectfully disagree with you there. I really dont think the ability to play DVD(360) or BluRay(PS3) is a really all that vital. Look at the Wii, despite the inability to play DVDs, by default, it was dominating the console war this time around. Sony was able to capitalize on the fact the PS3 was the cheapest BluRay player on the market in the early days, but a new BluRay player can be had for under $90 now. Is DVD/BluRay playback convenient? Sure, I admit I use my PS3 and 360 for those uses in my living room entertainment center, but the fact Nintendo can sell the Wii as is I think Microsoft and Sony could leave out video playback and still make a killing. Actually, I hate to say it, but it would be smart of Sony to disable BluRay playback. Most people will buy a BluRay player in time(I believe DVD is still outselling BluRay at this time) and then Sony is in a win win situation. Not only do they make money from the console, they make a slight profit regardless of if the customer picks out a top of the line or bottom of the line BluRay player.

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