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Rumor: 2013 release date for 'Xbox Next'
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article published on 20 October, 2011
According to Develop, there are already several projects underway for the upcoming "Xbox Next" console.
Microsoft is looking to a 2013 release for the console, which has been dubbed by some as the "Xbox 720."
Multiple sources, including processor chip manufacturers and middleware firms, say they expect the console to launch in 2013, but early 2014 is a possibility.
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xaznboitx
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22. October 2011 @ 10:31 |
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Originally posted by Xplorer4:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
One important bit that Nintendo seems to be missing is that it is useful for a device to be able to do more than one thing. DVD support was enough of a side use when the 360 was launched...and now BluRay support has become that same minimum. Like it or not, BluRay won the war and it isn't even the future...it is the present.
I have to respectfully disagree with you there. I really dont think the ability to play DVD(360) or BluRay(PS3) is a really all that vital. Look at the Wii, despite the inability to play DVDs, by default, it was dominating the console war this time around. Sony was able to capitalize on the fact the PS3 was the cheapest BluRay player on the market in the early days, but a new BluRay player can be had for under $90 now. Is DVD/BluRay playback convenient? Sure, I admit I use my PS3 and 360 for those uses in my living room entertainment center, but the fact Nintendo can sell the Wii as is I think Microsoft and Sony could leave out video playback and still make a killing. Actually, I hate to say it, but it would be smart of Sony to disable BluRay playback. Most people will buy a BluRay player in time(I believe DVD is still outselling BluRay at this time) and then Sony is in a win win situation. Not only do they make money from the console, they make a slight profit regardless of if the customer picks out a top of the line or bottom of the line BluRay player.
PS3 would cost 200.00 if they get rid of blu ray movies playback unless they have update where it kills it which still makes the console cost 250.00
wiiu will have blu ray for gaming but not for movies.
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22. October 2011 @ 10:55 |
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Originally posted by xaznboitx:
Originally posted by Xplorer4:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
One important bit that Nintendo seems to be missing is that it is useful for a device to be able to do more than one thing. DVD support was enough of a side use when the 360 was launched...and now BluRay support has become that same minimum. Like it or not, BluRay won the war and it isn't even the future...it is the present.
I have to respectfully disagree with you there. I really dont think the ability to play DVD(360) or BluRay(PS3) is a really all that vital. Look at the Wii, despite the inability to play DVDs, by default, it was dominating the console war this time around. Sony was able to capitalize on the fact the PS3 was the cheapest BluRay player on the market in the early days, but a new BluRay player can be had for under $90 now. Is DVD/BluRay playback convenient? Sure, I admit I use my PS3 and 360 for those uses in my living room entertainment center, but the fact Nintendo can sell the Wii as is I think Microsoft and Sony could leave out video playback and still make a killing. Actually, I hate to say it, but it would be smart of Sony to disable BluRay playback. Most people will buy a BluRay player in time(I believe DVD is still outselling BluRay at this time) and then Sony is in a win win situation. Not only do they make money from the console, they make a slight profit regardless of if the customer picks out a top of the line or bottom of the line BluRay player.
PS3 would cost 200.00 if they get rid of blu ray movies playback unless they have update where it kills it which still makes the console cost 250.00
wiiu will have blu ray for gaming but not for movies.
Umm no.....its the same lazer unit either way thus the price is the same, this is mostly a firmware deal with maybe 10-20$ in hardware and frankly I can't think of anything hardware wise a game has thats not used in film playback.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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Interestx
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23. October 2011 @ 21:57 |
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Simply for the downloading side of things I expect them to make it with a big hard drive (1tb, minimum).
So if they have that & work like a PC then nobody will care about multiple discs if they stick with DVD.
'Only' having DVD certainly isn't stopping great games appearing on PC.
Although I doubt it - even though I expect DVD movie playback will certainly be in there whatever they do.
Personally I suspect the HD DVD triple layer (51gb) tech will get an outing.
It'll be for games only.
Nobody will be able to get hold of blank TL discs or TL HD DVD burners which means a huge leap in security for MS (and we all know how they all covet that).
As for Blu-ray playback?
Who cares when standalone players are now so cheap?
(and they use a hell of a lot less power than a game console, something we are going to have to start thinking about as energy costs keep going up and up)
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24. October 2011 @ 08:42 |
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Originally posted by Xplorer4:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
One important bit that Nintendo seems to be missing is that it is useful for a device to be able to do more than one thing. DVD support was enough of a side use when the 360 was launched...and now BluRay support has become that same minimum. Like it or not, BluRay won the war and it isn't even the future...it is the present.
I have to respectfully disagree with you there. I really dont think the ability to play DVD(360) or BluRay(PS3) is a really all that vital. Look at the Wii, despite the inability to play DVDs, by default, it was dominating the console war this time around. Sony was able to capitalize on the fact the PS3 was the cheapest BluRay player on the market in the early days, but a new BluRay player can be had for under $90 now. Is DVD/BluRay playback convenient? Sure, I admit I use my PS3 and 360 for those uses in my living room entertainment center, but the fact Nintendo can sell the Wii as is I think Microsoft and Sony could leave out video playback and still make a killing. Actually, I hate to say it, but it would be smart of Sony to disable BluRay playback. Most people will buy a BluRay player in time(I believe DVD is still outselling BluRay at this time) and then Sony is in a win win situation. Not only do they make money from the console, they make a slight profit regardless of if the customer picks out a top of the line or bottom of the line BluRay player.
I don't think so. They're not that expensive, and Blu Ray is Sony technology; they're trying to have all the edge over the other consoles. Get rid of BR movie playback, which just wouldn't make since considering the hardware is required for the games as well, and people (me at least) would just opt for another console. Then you don't get HD movies along with the subtraction of OtherOS and inability to do normal voice chat outside a game or play music during a game. It's a good selling point that almost makes up for a lot of bad choices and inefficient utilization of the system's resources.
And so you want them to remove features and screw consumers even harder? I don't get it, I love the fact that I have my one, single device that can cover all my movie needs including streaming my own content as well as others'; it's like saying DVD players also don't need to play CD's and that neither should have the original Playstation so that people would have to buy CD players specifically for their home entertainment system. F*ck that, space needs to be saved, power consumed slowly, and heat put out in as small amounts as possible. I don't need 5 devices stacked around thanks.
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24. October 2011 @ 09:29 |
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Meh Sony is just a part of blu ry tech, since blu ray is the defacto film format MS will most likely go with blu ray.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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Don_Makaveli
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25. October 2011 @ 19:55 |
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I may be a little fuzzy on these things, but wasnt toshiba the creator of the blu-ray technology not Sony. If that was the case M$ wouldnt have to license anything from their direct competition.
Personally I am of the opinion that M$ will incorporate both BD support and HD download capabilities. It would be stupid not to have both with dvd technology being nearly 20 years old.
The future is not only supporting new technology but also making as much money as possible on your old software. Thats why Sony, Xbox and Wii have no backwards compatibility and require you to purchase the games you want to play all over again and a fraction of the original cost.
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Interestx
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25. October 2011 @ 21:07 |
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@ Don_Makaveli
The thing a lot of people seem to be forgetting in all of this is the Japanese tsunami and its effects.
The Japanese are right now developing energy-efficient devices for all they are worth - and its what Japan is buying.
Expect this to spread & catch on as energy prices everywhere just keep on going up & up & up.
A game console doubling up as a movie player is just a waste of energy.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a move to single purpose devices which are highly energy efficient, and a PS3 or an Xbox 360 as a movie disc player is just not.
Why burn 80 - 100w when less than 25w will do the job as well if not better?
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25. October 2011 @ 21:37 |
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Originally posted by Interestx:
@ Don_Makaveli
The thing a lot of people seem to be forgetting in all of this is the Japanese tsunami and its effects.
The Japanese are right now developing energy-efficient devices for all they are worth - and its what Japan is buying.
Expect this to spread & catch on as energy prices everywhere just keep on going up & up & up.
A game console doubling up as a movie player is just a waste of energy.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a move to single purpose devices which are highly energy efficient, and a PS3 or an Xbox 360 as a movie disc player is just not.
Why burn 80 - 100w when less than 25w will do the job as well if not better?
So having 2 devices plugged in all the time is better than one?
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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26. October 2011 @ 08:29 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by Interestx:
@ Don_Makaveli
The thing a lot of people seem to be forgetting in all of this is the Japanese tsunami and its effects.
The Japanese are right now developing energy-efficient devices for all they are worth - and its what Japan is buying.
Expect this to spread & catch on as energy prices everywhere just keep on going up & up & up.
A game console doubling up as a movie player is just a waste of energy.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a move to single purpose devices which are highly energy efficient, and a PS3 or an Xbox 360 as a movie disc player is just not.
Why burn 80 - 100w when less than 25w will do the job as well if not better?
So having 2 devices plugged in all the time is better than one?
That's my thing. If I wasn't playing a game my system would most likely stay running anyway, because I'll want to start right where I left off and a movie would only be a break. Plus it's convenient, I see who's online and can still hop in to a game quickly. I think that really, just one device taking up a bit more is better than 5 taking up the same amount.
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Interestx
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26. October 2011 @ 10:54 |
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Wow, don't you guys ever switch off appliances when you're not using them?
Jeez talk about lining the power companies pockets for no good reason.
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26. October 2011 @ 10:58 |
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Originally posted by Interestx:
Wow, don't you guys ever switch off appliances when you're not using them?
Jeez talk about lining the power companies pockets for no good reason.
I turn mine off but do not unplug them, which is almost the same thing.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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ruff469
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26. October 2011 @ 11:59 |
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All of you are so hyped on the media playback but IMHO Blu-ray would be best but that is probably the least best feature that should be added to that new machine. Multi-screen setup is the only real upgrade they need to focus on. Which means they would have to have a super GPU in that system. I mean it's ridiculous that I have one of the best console sim racers and I literally have to have 3 copies of the game as well as 3 consoles. So many games would benefit from this type of gameplay.
As far as movie playing I stream everything. I can stream 720 from my pc which to me is good enough.
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26. October 2011 @ 12:14 |
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Originally posted by Interestx:
Wow, don't you guys ever switch off appliances when you're not using them?
Jeez talk about lining the power companies pockets for no good reason.
Not really. I mean, even in the middle of summer/winter our bill isn't that much, and I've never noticed enough of a difference to spend all the time it takes to walk around plugging/unplugging devices. Some things I could understand, lamps that don't get used often or the microwave or something, if you like to be OCD. But my PS3 gets used too often to worry with plugging it in and waiting for it to start, then waiting for the game to start, check for updates, and read the harddrive several times a day.
I'll unplug things when we'll be away for an extended time, but really it's too much of a hassle to do for everything everyday. Might as well just flip off all the breakers except the kitchen and AC unit, that seems more at ease and would keep any stand-by as well.
If we need efficiency, we need it in devices that do multiple things, we need to be efficient both in consumption and in space usage; again, I don't particularly feel the need for four devices awkwardly stacked around my entertainment center even if they use half the power when running all at ounce. I don't understand how we haven't moved on to strictly PC gaming considering the relatively small/cheap hardware that's floating around that could out-perform these consoles any day; we really should only need one device for all our multimedia needs even if it consumes a bit more power for the ability of being all-in-one.
I'm sorry, it just seems as though you're suggesting the best step is a step backwards. We've moved away from one device for one use and that's how it should be. Have a read of The Mote in God's Eye by Larry Niven; I feel that if we're trying to advance we need advance in a way similar to the "Moties" they find in the book, we need few, efficient devices for many many different uses.
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