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Infinity Ward bans 1,600 Modern Warfare 3 cheaters
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article published on 21 November, 2011
Infinity Ward announced this weekend that it had banned 1600 Modern Warfare 3 players, each accused of using glitches in the game to either hack or cheat in-game.
More players are expected to be banned as the week progresses.
Says the company via Twitter:
Any attempt to cheat, hack, or glitch in #MW3 will not be tolerated. 1600+ bans issued. Updates in works. Please [continue] to ... [ read the full article ]
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21. November 2011 @ 15:44 |
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That's a little messed up. Nothing new in the world though, of course they would. Easier to just ban people than make your product stable, amirite?
I mean, I know people that have randomly found some of those glitches and are using them; a bit f***ed up in my mind they may get their accounts banned for finding and subsequently using the neglected problems. Don't want people popping into a glitch, don't make it so retarded easy.
And don't I remember them saying at one point about MW2 that they embrace the glitches and the ingenuity of people for finding them? Something along those lines, thinking of another title perhaps?
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21. November 2011 @ 16:04 |
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I welcome this, tired of being glitching themselves inside a tank and being invulnerable for the whole game.
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21. November 2011 @ 16:24 |
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Originally posted by buxtahuda:
That's a little messed up. Nothing new in the world though, of course they would. Easier to just ban people than make your product stable, amirite?
I mean, I know people that have randomly found some of those glitches and are using them; a bit f***ed up in my mind they may get their accounts banned for finding and subsequently using the neglected problems. Don't want people popping into a glitch, don't make it so retarded easy.
And don't I remember them saying at one point about MW2 that they embrace the glitches and the ingenuity of people for finding them? Something along those lines, thinking of another title perhaps?
I bet you're one of them
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21. November 2011 @ 16:38 |
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Originally posted by xaznboitx:
Originally posted by buxtahuda:
That's a little messed up. Nothing new in the world though, of course they would. Easier to just ban people than make your product stable, amirite?
I mean, I know people that have randomly found some of those glitches and are using them; a bit f***ed up in my mind they may get their accounts banned for finding and subsequently using the neglected problems. Don't want people popping into a glitch, don't make it so retarded easy.
And don't I remember them saying at one point about MW2 that they embrace the glitches and the ingenuity of people for finding them? Something along those lines, thinking of another title perhaps?
I bet you're one of them
lol no. I don't even own the game yet, and I don't think I will thank you. Too buggy. Get stuck on everything, glitches left and right, only saving grace is Spec Ops Survival which I'm pretty sure is only so good because TreyArch helped with a bit of it.
I'll stick to all my zombies maps on Black Ops thanks, there was more marketing put into this latest release than there was effort on the actual game, IMO
And I understand people not liking it, but really, what game vulnerability do people not exploit? Quick/No-scoping is still *rampant. Why? Not because we've done anything. Because they haven't properly tested their product and they don't do anything to really change/innovate the games and their experiences in the first place.
Regardless of all this opinion, it's messed up people will lose their entire accounts (hell, reset their KD ratios or something) because IW just wanted to make as much money as possible and put this thing on the market ASAP. Nothing new, but I'd be pissed if I bought this game and that Elite service only to have my account banned for mucking about with a problem that's probably been there since pre-beta stages.
Fix the problem, don't ban the people making it obvious a fix is needed.
Originally posted by plutonash:
I welcome this, tired of being glitching themselves inside a tank and being invulnerable for the whole game.
And they're not invulnerable, just hard to pinpoint. I've seen my buddy kill two people chilling in both tanks outside the hangar in Outpost because he kept dying without seeing anyone; just shot the hell out of 'em.
*Don't know how that word got deleted...
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21. November 2011 @ 16:44 |
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it's in the term of conduct no modding, glitching, hacking
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21. November 2011 @ 16:54 |
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Originally posted by xaznboitx:
it's in the term of conduct no modding, glitching, hacking
Like I said, don't own it so I wouldn't know. Lol big surprise, Terms of Whatever used to pre-f*** consumers.
I don't care, I fail to agree that it's OK "I" pay $60-$100 on something then get all my info kicked because the company knew it had problems, would have problems, and put out a completely non-legal contract concerning such.
I can accept that if someone modded or hacked their way into an advantage that this would be an acceptable practice. They had to actively screw with the IP and should face consequences. But it is downright ridiculous to get in trouble because you used something they put in the game.
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21. November 2011 @ 17:48 |
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I don't care if glitches are there. Lots of games have glitches. Your argument of, oh, it's in the game, people shouldn't be punished for using it is a flawed one. Just because a glitch accidentally makes it into the game doesn't mean you have to exploit it. They could have tested the game for five years and glitches or bugs still could have made it in. Most every game ever made has some kind of hiccup, be it major or minor, they happen. They didn't PUT IT IN THE GAME. It's a glitch, accident, not meant to be there.
You can shout all you want that they didn't test it enough and they're greedy and too bad for them if people glitch. Well, that doesn't mean glitchers get to get away with it and ruin the experience for everyone else. If you're seen exploiting a glitch for hours on end, you should be banned. Everyone knows how online games work these days, you glitch ie: cheat... you usually get banned. If you wanna take that chance, then people shouldn't cry or whine, oh well, the glitch was there, I thought I could exploit it. Idiots!
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21. November 2011 @ 18:00 |
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Originally posted by plutonash:
I welcome this, tired of being glitching themselves inside a tank and being invulnerable for the whole game.
Absolutely! I can't agree more and welcome this too!
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21. November 2011 @ 18:34 |
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Originally posted by SomeBozo:
Originally posted by plutonash:
I welcome this, tired of being glitching themselves inside a tank and being invulnerable for the whole game.
Absolutely! I can't agree more and welcome this too!
Agreed! Just got a game winning kill cam in MW2 with a person jumping 1000 feet in the air. These hacks are from Jtagging/Jailbreaking. They should be banned. Do whatever you want in single player. In multiplayer, play fair.
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21. November 2011 @ 18:41 |
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Originally posted by Joe_1981:
I don't care if glitches are there. Lots of games have glitches. Your argument of, oh, it's in the game, people shouldn't be punished for using it is a flawed one. Just because a glitch accidentally makes it into the game doesn't mean you have to exploit it. They could have tested the game for five years and glitches or bugs still could have made it in. Most every game ever made has some kind of hiccup, be it major or minor, they happen. They didn't PUT IT IN THE GAME. It's a glitch, accident, not meant to be there.
You can shout all you want that they didn't test it enough and they're greedy and too bad for them if people glitch. Well, that doesn't mean glitchers get to get away with it and ruin the experience for everyone else. If you're seen exploiting a glitch for hours on end, you should be banned. Everyone knows how online games work these days, you glitch ie: cheat... you usually get banned. If you wanna take that chance, then people shouldn't cry or whine, oh well, the glitch was there, I thought I could exploit it. Idiots!
I'll go on and quit before I rage-rage and cause further detriment to my nonexistent AD popularity. Plenty I was about to say, but really, I'm a member so I know how it is here and I think I've produced enough opinionated garbage for the day.
Enjoy your glitchy, you're-not-allowed-to-use-glitches game and I hope they take a step towards actually fixing the issue.
As a last comment, I love how Elite was such a selling point that it couldn't even work on the first week. If they couldn't handle the initial influx, I can't wait to see what happens after the holidays lol
Originally posted by core2kid:
Agreed! Just got a game winning kill cam in MW2 with a person jumping 1000 feet in the air. These hacks are from Jtagging/Jailbreaking. They should be banned. Do whatever you want in single player. In multiplayer, play fair.
And yes. They should. But when my friend gets banned for using a glitch a couple of times for kicks and giggles I'll just shake my head and stand by my decision not to buy the game.
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21. November 2011 @ 18:45 |
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Banning for using glitches in the game is ridiculous, I thought this was only for real "hackers".
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21. November 2011 @ 19:00 |
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@buxtahuda
I may agree with you that if someone glitches once or twice, they shouldn't be permabanned. However, I doubt that's what going on here. My guess is that most people being banned are people who are abusing the shit out of these glitches. That said, I don't even own this game, but I've played plenty of CoD and other multi-player games in the past to know that these kind of people are usually annoying little 14 year olds, who think they're funny and cool cause they can cheat. Glitchy or not, I can manage to play all my games without the desire to even glitch once, just to be funny or try it out. I play how you're supposed to play, by the rules and within the game's geometry. So I really have no sympathy for these people, even if they did only do something a couple times. You wanna do it in single player? Fine. Keep it there, offline.
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Originally posted by core2kid:
Banning for using glitches in the game is ridiculous, I thought this was only for real "hackers".
Totally agree. The only way to cheat should be hacking the game or the traffic; if you can enter a cheat code in multiplayer, that is a bug, if you can glitch yourself to be immortal, that is a bug.
Bugs should be fixed.
People should not be punished for taking advantage of terrain to defend themselves, even if that advantage makes them immortal. Next they are going to ban people for hiding behind walls.
Oh, and I don't own the game...I stopped buying this series after MW2 because they still hadn't fixed all the problems with MW1.
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21. November 2011 @ 23:23 |
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pointless playing if you use easy routes keep banning them.
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22. November 2011 @ 00:19 |
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I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them.
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22. November 2011 @ 00:23 |
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Originally posted by plutonash:
I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them.
They're not stealing anything. They're taking advantage of a flaw which can be patched. They're not harming anyone, they're only annoying people. It's Activisions job to patch these flaws.
You really can't compare breaking into a bank with cheating.
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22. November 2011 @ 00:32 |
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But, they are harming people. The people that paid for the game and are playing it the way it's meant to be played. Fair! His bank logic works fine. You're saying it's OK to cheat and piss people off because there's a bug in the game? That makes no sense. It's people like that who ruin the online community for everyone. So if someone can exploit a bug where they stay invincible the whole game, that's OK and not grounds for being banned? They win 20 rounds in a row and never die and people can't kill them? Yes, that so fun and fair for the thousands of other people who bought the game and want to play it legit and have fun. I can't believe some people actually defend this type of behavior because it's "A glitch that can be patched". This is why online gaming sucks. Unbelievable!
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Originally posted by Joe_1981:
But, they are harming people. The people that paid for the game and are playing it the way it's meant to be played. Fair! His bank logic works fine. You're saying it's OK to cheat and piss people off because there's a bug in the game? That makes no sense. It's people like that who ruin the online community for everyone. So if someone can exploit a bug where they stay invincible the whole game, that's OK and not grounds for being banned? They win 20 rounds in a row and never die and people can't kill them? Yes, that so fun and fair for the thousands of other people who bought the game and want to play it legit and have fun. I can't believe some people actually defend this type of behavior because it's "A glitch that can be patched". This is why online gaming sucks. Unbelievable!
You're talking as though every game has glitch abusers. The company can't sit on their ass and ban people, they need to get to work and fix the patches. Simple as that. Microsoft can't expect nobody to hack through Windows, AVS makers can't make the software and leave it. You need to update it as new things come out. Simple as that. I used the care package glitch in MW2 several times to show people, it was funny. By your rules, I should be banned. Now if someone hacked the game to be invincible by using a 3rd party utility, gladly go ahead and ban them.
Take your theory and banning would be useless. On PS3 and PC, you can create another free username and go right back online. 360 you have to pay for Live again on the new username.
Also if you're talking about the MW2 online community sucking, that's because IW left the game with a shit ton of flaws.
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22. November 2011 @ 01:19 |
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Originally posted by plutonash:
I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them.
I totally agree. All cheaters should be banned period.
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Originally posted by gnovak1:
Originally posted by plutonash:
I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them.
I totally agree. All cheaters should be banned period.
Yes +1
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Originally posted by gnovak1:
Originally posted by plutonash:
I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them.
I totally agree. All cheaters should be banned period.
Yes +1
You guys are just promoting crappy game making and banning for IW. Switch topics to "Should Sony ban people for jailbreaking the PS3" and most of you would switch over to the other side and say "No". MW3 hackers annoy, not harm you. Jailbreaking PS3s annoy and potentially harm Sony.
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22. November 2011 @ 02:25 |
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Yes, they need to fix bugs and glitches. That doesn't excuse the people that exploit them while the company is working on a fix. Some glitches take longer to fix than others. They can't just snap their fingers and have it patched. These people simply get banned because they're causing the game to be unplayable for everyone else. That's why they get banned. It doesn't mean IW isn't working on fixes. They have to patch the PS3, XBox and PC. And with so many millions of people playing all the franchises, glitches are gonna pop up and be discovered far more often than an unpopular that has very few players. At the end of the day, IW is obviously working on fixing the bugs, but that doesn't excuse people from using them. This isn't the same as jailbreaking the PS3. This affects IW, SONY and Microsoft's customers. Angry customers are not gonna come back. So the glitchers get banned to keep the legit users happy.
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Originally posted by Joe_1981:
Yes, they need to fix bugs and glitches. That doesn't excuse the people that exploit them while the company is working on a fix. Some glitches take longer to fix than others. They can't just snap their fingers and have it patched. These people simply get banned because they're causing the game to be unplayable for everyone else. That's why they get banned. It doesn't mean IW isn't working on fixes. They have to patch the PS3, XBox and PC. And with so many millions of people playing all the the franchise, glitches are gonna pop up and be discovered far more often than an unpopular that has very few players. At the end of the day, IW is obviously working on fixing the bugs, but that doesn't excuse people from using them. Lord all mighty!
Half of Activision's time is going to go to banning people instead of making the damn patch. MW3 is a money making scheme. MW2 could have easily been patched, they left it as is and made another game. Watch it happen again. They'll ban 50% of their community, make another game that everybody will buy, start banning, repeat.
Also you're talking as though cheaters are in every single game. With all of MW2s glitches, I had to leave a game twice at max to get out of a lobby with cheaters. Even with cheaters I was able to win 90% of the time and I'm not that great of a player.
Suspension until a patch is released is a better option.
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I've been on vacation for the past week so I'm unaware of MW3 glitches right now. Is the glitch easy to do where a non cheater could accidentally do it??? I'm for cheaters being IP banned to keep them out of my matches but you know there will be many innocent peeps that get screwed and that SUX!!!
No time for Leap frog!!!
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22. November 2011 @ 03:45 |
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Originally posted by core2kid:
Originally posted by Joe_1981:
Yes, they need to fix bugs and glitches. That doesn't excuse the people that exploit them while the company is working on a fix. Some glitches take longer to fix than others. They can't just snap their fingers and have it patched. These people simply get banned because they're causing the game to be unplayable for everyone else. That's why they get banned. It doesn't mean IW isn't working on fixes. They have to patch the PS3, XBox and PC. And with so many millions of people playing all the the franchise, glitches are gonna pop up and be discovered far more often than an unpopular that has very few players. At the end of the day, IW is obviously working on fixing the bugs, but that doesn't excuse people from using them. Lord all mighty!
Half of Activision's time is going to go to banning people instead of making the damn patch. MW3 is a money making scheme. MW2 could have easily been patched, they left it as is and made another game. Watch it happen again. They'll ban 50% of their community, make another game that everybody will buy, start banning, repeat.
Also you're talking as though cheaters are in every single game. With all of MW2s glitches, I had to leave a game twice at max to get out of a lobby with cheaters. Even with cheaters I was able to win 90% of the time and I'm not that great of a player.
Suspension until a patch is released is a better option.
You have to ask...where do you draw the line? If are hiding in an area that can only be gotten to by jumping near a grenade as it does off, are you cheating? If you avoid getting shot because someone else's console glitches while they are trying to reload, are you cheating? If you are a bad shot and you think you got a headshot but you didn't, is the other guy cheating?
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